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[Shreddology]

Sup i thought i would post up the cycle i am going to run soon just to see what you guys think.

Test e 500mg p/w 10wks

Arimidex 0.25mg E/D

Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Ok.anything i would be missing or should add in? how would running the nolva at 20/20/10/10 be it would save me money, but would it be the safest choice? would adding something in such as winstrol be a good idea? my goal from this cycle is to make lean gains.

stats

22 years

90 kgs

17% bf

187cm

goal for this cycle is to gain a good amount of muscle. whilst simutanousely cutting fat?

Thank you

[thatwaslight]

run your test e for 12 weeks, run your nolva at 20,20,20 and don't run adex unless your start to experience estrogen problems. (you shouldnt at 500mg/pw)

[Shreddology]

ok. so in order for me to run it for 12 weeks i would have to cut it to 400mg p/w and last few weeks 500mg/pw yes? I dont have pubetal gyno or anything but i want to be on the safe side regarding gyno and such.i should still by the adex when i by my whole cycle so i have it on hand yes? what are your thoughts on me running winstrol with this cycle?

[thatwaslight]

ok. so in order for me to run it for 12 weeks i would have to cut it to 400mg p/w and last few weeks 500mg/pw yes? I dont have pubetal gyno or anything but i want to be on the safe side regarding gyno and such.i should still by the adex when i by my whole cycle so i have it on hand yes? what are your thoughts on me running winstrol with this cycle?

yup or just get more gear :wink: but yeah that would be fine 400 for 12 weeks is solid for your first time. and yes keep the adex on hand but you should be pretty safe. leave the winny out mate and keep it simple for your first dabble.

[Shreddology]

ok sweet thanks bro

[narcosis73]

Sup i thought i would post up the cycle i am going to run soon just to see what you guys think.

Test e 500mg p/w 10wks

Arimidex 0.25mg E/D

Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Ok.anything i would be missing or should add in? how would running the nolva at 20/20/10/10 be it would save me money, but would it be the safest choice? would adding something in such as winstrol be a good idea? my goal from this cycle is to make lean gains.

stats

22 years

90 kgs

17% bf

187cm

goal for this cycle is to gain a good amount of muscle. whilst simutanousely cutting fat?

Thank you

how long you been lifting mate, are you still getting good gains, whats your diet like, whats your training routine, only ask as at 22 I would think that you still got plenty of nat development there, or is it that like most young dudes I see round the gym scene today they all looking for that extra edge rather than just doing the hard yards, just asking. :?

[Phedder]

how long you been lifting mate, are you still getting good gains, whats your diet like, whats your training routine, only ask as at 22 I would think that you still got plenty of nat development there, or is it that like most young dudes I see round the gym scene today they all looking for that extra edge rather than just doing the hard yards, just asking. :?

I'd tend to agree with this. Given your stats, with a bit more fine tuning to your training and diet you could quite easily add more muscle without steroids. Maybe save the cycle for when your gains really slow down, and by then you'll have your training and diet really dialled in so you'll be in a better position to optimise your gains from the cycle.

You'll do what you want to do, but it's just another opinion. Still plenty of easy natural gains if you're willing to put in the work.

[thatwaslight]

You could keep training natty....or you could get 2 years gains in 10 weeks...if you know how to change your weight using diet and exercise naturally, do it

[Shreddology]

Been lifting since i was 15 and a half. Diets pretty good, cleaned it up some more, and been training hard ever since. Trainings a little harder because atm i have no workout partner but yeh. Nah not doing roids for the sake of it, Im a vegetarian, so ive been doing the hard yards for a long time lol. Thoughts?

[bms_muscle]

Been lifting since i was 15 and a half. Diets pretty good, cleaned it up some more, and been training hard ever since. Trainings a little harder because atm i have no workout partner but yeh. Nah not doing roids for the sake of it, Im a vegetarian, so ive been doing the hard yards for a long time lol. Thoughts?

Hi,

I am vegetarian as well and i have been training for 4 years. and staring gym again after recovering from lower back injury. I have gained a good amount of muscle from vegetarian diet. Whats your diet? If you dont mind sharing. Cheers

[Outkast]

You could keep training natty....or you could get 2 years gains in 10 weeks...if you know how to change your weight using diet and exercise naturally, do it

^^ this

[MullacT]

You could keep training natty....or you could get 2 years gains in 10 weeks...if you know how to change your weight using diet and exercise naturally, do it

Repped

[DLS]

I dont know how people can be satisfied with 8 - 12 week cycles enless its a short ester

I wudnt even bother with less than 16

[Pseudonym]

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[crazyfacials]

I dont know how people can be satisfied with 8 - 12 week cycles enless its a short ester

I wudnt even bother with less than 16

why would someone on their first cycle do something longer than 16 weeks?

[HarryB]

I dont know how people can be satisfied with 8 - 12 week cycles enless its a short ester

I wudnt even bother with less than 16

why would someone on their first cycle do something longer than 16 weeks?

I actually agree with you CF... why would they even do that long?

Answer DLS... please!!! I beg you... Show me what I am doing wrong.