Steroids question for those that are knowledgable

[Android]

You can stay on indefinitely, cos it won't affect anything.

u r a bit of rude guy tho, noone on here is making stuff up about why your tincture won't increase your t-levels above normal yet u come back with rude remarks just because u disagree.

Poor communication skills, I'd worry about those b4 your Test levels tbh

At best you Test levels are repressed due to stress, age, diet etc and u will regain some of that back. Yay u win :-)

Some would say fix the problem instead but you're too wise for that shit ay cuz

He was having tincture rage!

It's a growing problem mate, these tinctures are ruining our society I think they need regulating.

Oh wait if they don't do anything they don't need regulating....hmmm that's an interesting fact don't you think....they're not regulated because they don't do anything

[HarryB]

You can stay on indefinitely, cos it won't affect anything.

u r a bit of rude guy tho, noone on here is making stuff up about why your tincture won't increase your t-levels above normal yet u come back with rude remarks just because u disagree.

Poor communication skills, I'd worry about those b4 your Test levels tbh

At best you Test levels are repressed due to stress, age, diet etc and u will regain some of that back. Yay u win :-)

Some would say fix the problem instead but you're too wise for that shit ay cuz

He was having tincture rage!

It's a growing problem mate, these tinctures are ruining our society I think they need regulating.

Oh wait if they don't do anything they don't need regulating....hmmm that's an interesting fact don't you think....they're not regulated because they don't do anything

And apparently we're the dumb ones... :wink:

[Diab0lic]

Lets face it

Youse fullas aint dat bright izz youse ?

Duh

The whole point is to raise duz testosterone without becoming a gay balled drug addict

Can youse brain unna stand dat?

Youz dont actually need gay drug balls to raise youse testicular-osculone in olde age

Read my post again dipshit. You're taking the same stuff to achieve the same result. It's all about the active ingredient(s). You're just mixing some tree dust with some overproof rum while we're taking proven, regulated, sterile, prescription medications.

And gay drug balls? Drug addicts? You do realise that if you were to raise your test levels enough with this pine pollen bullshit (not gonna happen anyway) that your balls will shut down just the same as a gay balls drug addicts? Also, a drug addict is more likely to home brew some horse shit out of junk ingredients for his fix than to take the approved medication in the approved manner. If you hate "drugs" in general then you are not only ignorant but you are in the wrong forum mate.

Denouncing the whole medical science of HRT as drug addiction and "gay balls" makes you look like the dumb one. If you're just a cheap ass then that's another story, but it looks like you are both...

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i think possibly the OP is confused and thinks maybe the pollen will be increasing natural test production or something...maybe not

[gareththomasnz]

I got an email back from the author of "natural testosterone solution"

He says he has much anecdotal evidence & knows many people using the tincture and the results they are getting. He also said many body builders are using up to an ounce a day and are indeed experiencing gonadal shut down.

An oz = approx 30,000 mg which is approx 1/4 a cup of the stuff

Also he says similar formulas go back 5000 years - which appears to be correct

I am adding deer antler which will make it substantially more potent androgenically prob shut down can occur with 10ml per day including antler but without the antler it can be used long term with out this risk.

I may just make two tinctures - one containing antler and one with the other ingredients.

That's why I will be getting a GP to monitor my blood.

Two things I still need to find answers to ...

1. If it does shut my gonads down - is there a cheap herbal I can use to get em up again?

2. When you guys use synthetics your body must strip the extra molecules so it becomes organic testosterone right ?

Is it possible that the organic tincture steroid would be processed more easily in the body & that because the tincture also contains nettle root that it is used largely as free testosterone ?

http://www.clearstone-elk.com/research.html

http://bartos.agrobiology.eu/bartos/pub ... 05_JEZ.pdf

[Ninja]

2. When you guys use synthetics your body must strip the extra molecules so it becomes organic testosterone right ?

What the f*ck?

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2. When you guys use synthetics your body must strip the extra molecules so it becomes organic testosterone right ?

What the f*ck?

unknown side effect of taking pine pollen=full retard

[Ninja]

Mate you need to stop reading all those 'natural' health forums

He says he has much anecdotal evidence

I can't believe you are this stupid.. You believe a guy that admits even his best eveidence for his product is anecdotal.

Also synthetic testosterone is specially formulated to work with the human body and to bypass the liver. Therefore increasing free test levels in the blood

What makes you think that the tiny amount of test that you are ingesting will even make it into your blood?

Imo any results you will be getting will be from the placebo effect created by your strong belief in the product. If thats what your going for then good on you but im sure everyone else is sick of hearing about it

[Ninja]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

[gareththomasnz]

You guys are a Pack of complete wankers

Totally - I hope you all get fucked up the ass in prison once you are busted for you gay drug taking

I dont want to discuss my training with drug addict fucktards any more

I wont use this section of the website again.

May you get fucked and die an unhappy death. Mod included

Hasta la vista ass holes

[I Declare War]

lol

[Luigi]

You guys are a Pack of complete wankers

Totally - I hope you all get fucked up the ass in prison once you are busted for you gay drug taking

I dont want to discuss my training with drug addict fucktards any more

I wont use this section of the website again.

May you get fucked and die an unhappy death. Mod included

Hasta la vista ass holes

[hhhh1]

[Diab0lic]

You guys are a Pack of complete wankers

Totally - I hope you all get fucked up the ass in prison once you are busted for you gay drug taking

I dont want to discuss my training with drug addict fucktards any more

I wont use this section of the website again.

May you get fucked and die an unhappy death. Mod included

Hasta la vista ass holes

You won't be missed you ignorant piece of shit :salute:

[PeterDolan]

Lol deer antler velvet!

Mind blown!

Better off takin Bulgarian Tribulus phaggot

Pls be safe

[justhell]

You guys are a Pack of complete wankers

Totally - I hope you all get fucked up the ass in prison once you are busted for you gay drug taking

I dont want to discuss my training with drug addict fucktards any more

I wont use this section of the website again.

May you get fucked and die an unhappy death. Mod included

Hasta la vista ass holes

Pine pollen rage ?

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imagine how mad he will be when he realises he bought 6 months supply of worthless shit lolololol

[PeterDolan]

imagine how mad he will be when he realises he bought 6 months supply of worthless shit lolololol

Imagine how mad we will all be when he gains 7lbs in 7 days

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imagine how mad he will be when he realises he bought 6 months supply of worthless shit lolololol

Imagine how mad we will all be when he gains 7lbs in 7 days

imagine how much lolz will be had when gareth is on campbell live in 6 months cos his pine pollen gave him herpes.

[Ninja]

Inb4 entire thread dedicated to gareth thomas pine pollen jokes

[AgentOrange]

[thatwaslight]

You guys are a Pack of complete wankers

Totally - I hope you all get fucked up the ass in prison once you are busted for you gay drug taking

I dont want to discuss my training with drug addict fucktards any more

I wont use this section of the website again.

May you get fucked and die an unhappy death. Mod included

Hasta la vista ass holes

[gareththomasnz]

Ha ha ha haaaa

[Shutupandsquat]

Ha ha ha haaaa

Lol! At you, not with you.

After reading this, you need to re-evaluate your life. You're an arrogant cock and only ask questions when you only want one answer; because you apparently already know the answer and just want reassurance. But you don't get that reassurance and start getting on your defensive high-horse.?

Yes, you've practically been told by an 18 year old that you're immature.