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First cycle PCT help

Ashgill

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500mg is f*ck all.

You shouldn't bother with PCT, buy some more gear with the money you spend on PCT.

Seriously, you don't need it on that low a dose.

If your that worried with a tiny amount of AAS add HCG to ensure your normal levels come back quicker.

Please post your blood test results before you started, because clearly if you are that concerned with 'side effects' you should be doing before and after test results.

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musclenz Veteran member

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500mg is f*ck all.

You shouldn't bother with PCT, buy some more gear with the money you spend on PCT.

Seriously, you don't need it on that low a dose.

If your that worried with a tiny amount of AAS add HCG to ensure your normal levels come back quicker.

Please post your blood test results before you started, because clearly if you are that concerned with 'side effects' you should be doing before and after test results.

So you know this guys endocrine system intimately do you? If he is estrogen sensitive he will need PCT & at 500mg PW your HPTA is severally shut down & it is a good plan to run one. HCG is far more expensive to buy in NZ than anti-Es if you can get it at all. Do you use HCG? Do you know how to run HCG on cycle or in a PCT?

Agree tho that he should get blood tests before his cycle as a base line indicator & the "after" tests should be done a few weeks after the PCT has finished to establish his rsults compared to base line.

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10 weeks to short imo. nolva is fine 20mg ed for 5 weeks

Is that the general feeling here that 10 weeks are too short for a first cycle? From what Dave has read (yeah I know reading about something does not equal actual experince) but 10-12 weeks for a first timer should be ok, and I am guessing little Ricky here has 2 vials so he's going for 2x 1ml jabs a week?

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10 weeks to short imo. nolva is fine 20mg ed for 5 weeks

Is that the general feeling here that 10 weeks are too short for a first cycle? From what Dave has read (yeah I know reading about something does not equal actual experince) but 10-12 weeks for a first timer should be ok, and I am guessing little Ricky here has 2 vials so he's going for 2x 1ml jabs a week?

Yea bud. And who's dave mate lol

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500mg is f*ck all.

You shouldn't bother with PCT, buy some more gear with the money you spend on PCT.

Seriously, you don't need it on that low a dose.

Crazy talk man...

I do understand that everyone's biochemistry is unique, but it is a slightly low dose, but I can't imagine getting gains on less.

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@ OP Dave is my friend and part time lover, he's only running 400mg for the first 10 weeks then 500mg for the last 2 (works out the same as 10 weeks x 500mg)today marks his 4th week and so far he's very happy with what he's been getting so far, his PCT is just nolva btw, while you wait for whatever is keeping you from doing your cycle I'd suggest is that you go to some site that teaches you how to inject correctly and locations to inject ....above all , please stay safe

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500mg is f*ck all.

You shouldn't bother with PCT, buy some more gear with the money you spend on PCT.

Seriously, you don't need it on that low a dose.

Crazy talk man...

I do understand that everyone's biochemistry is unique, but it is a slightly low dose, but I can't imagine getting gains on less.

On a first course? 500mgs is low dose?

I must be doing everything wrong, I do well on 500mgs and I been cycing for years.

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Crazy talk man...

I do understand that everyone's biochemistry is unique, but it is a slightly low dose, but I can't imagine getting gains on less.

On a first course? 500mgs is low dose?

I must be doing everything wrong, I do well on 500mgs and I been cycing for years.

Yeah, think how much better you could look tho if you did more :pfft: ... way better, way way way way (u get my point) better.

If 500mg is good, 1gm must be awesome!

If 1gm is awesome then 2gm must be insane gains!!!! [insert more !!! here]

inb4OD

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500mg is f*ck all.

You shouldn't bother with PCT, buy some more gear with the money you spend on PCT.

Seriously, you don't need it on that low a dose.

If your that worried with a tiny amount of AAS add HCG to ensure your normal levels come back quicker.

Please post your blood test results before you started, because clearly if you are that concerned with 'side effects' you should be doing before and after test results.

the fuckk? lol 500mg is all good getting solid gains, switch your 1g canola oil to 500mg pure olive u 2 will get that wow factor lol..

@ish you will b sweet on your first cycle, just run nolva ed and some zma/tribb

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@ OP Dave is my friend and part time lover, he's only running 400mg for the first 10 weeks then 500mg for the last 2 (works out the same as 10 weeks x 500mg)today marks his 4th week and so far he's very happy with what he's been getting so far, his PCT is just nolva btw, while you wait for whatever is keeping you from doing your cycle I'd suggest is that you go to some site that teaches you how to inject correctly and locations to inject ....above all , please stay safe

ah k sweet mate, o and i know how to inject but anyway il have my mates injecting me lol (no homo)

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Dude 500mg is heaps, look at first cycle pics pre and post in steroids forum that I have just posted, had decent gains with such a dose. Only sides i got was acne on arms, chest

N shoulders! Go hard eat well and you will be happy! Pct I have just done 20mgs of nolva for 4 weeks!

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