Wave goodbye to DMAA

[FellowshipOfTheRon]

why is rage cheaper than 1RM or Jack3d, is there some difference to them?

i read the labels and they're pretty much the same thing, but RAGE is alot cheaper...

i'm guessing because it would have a lower cost price to them because bb nzs owner also runs nutratech.. plus its all locally produced

[Bromancho]

Does this mean they'll stop anything coming in before April 9th also? Would it be worth doing a last ditch order from overseas before the ban comes into effect?

[tomleegolf]

I aspecially like this part,Mr Dunne says DMAA, which has been linked to increased blood pressure, headaches and vomiting,. Alcohol does that on a daily basis and even more but that shit doesn't get banned.

Do you actually want alcohol to get banned? I do but you probably don't

[Evolv-Supplements]

From April 9th.

From the date a Temporary Class Drug Notice comes into force the import, export, manufacture, supply and

sale of the drug/s covered by the notice becomes illegal, with penalties the

same as for Class C drugs. However, the possession or use of the drug/s

is not a criminal offence.

Basically, from April 9th it will be illegal to:

- import

- export

- manufacture

- sell / supply

It will be legal to:

- Have in your posession

- Use it

So if there are products you like and want to be able to keep using that have DMAA in them, you have a month to stock up.

[pyro]

If nutmeg came back as way to get high they would prolly considere all options of doing the same thing, banned.

Nutmeg gets you seriously fucked up if you take enough, tripping for days fucked up. Good times lol.

This has been on the cards for a while and not just here in NZ, its been looking to go the same way in the states for a ages.

[mrsym0r]

Its use in New Zealand has led to health concerns including increased blood pressure, headaches and vomiting

Other things which raise blood pressure, cause headaches and vomiting are table salt, caffeine, and chilli peppers. I'm going to write to Peter Dunne and make sure they haven't forgotten about these other terrible, harmful substances which are so often abused in New Zealand.

[thatwaslight]

this stuff is only bad if you abuse it like i have. have had grams of it in night and it truly fucks you up but thats like 1000x times whats in pre workouts

[hhhh1]

this stuff is only bad if you abuse it like i have. have had grams of it in night and it truly fucks you up but thats like 1000x times whats in pre workouts

[severe]

this stuff is only bad if you abuse it like i have. have had grams of it in night and it truly fucks you up but thats like 1000x times whats in pre workouts

Forever pimpin... :nod:

[Darkmanx]

I aspecially like this part,Mr Dunne says DMAA, which has been linked to increased blood pressure, headaches and vomiting,. Alcohol does that on a daily basis and even more but that shit doesn't get banned.

Do you actually want alcohol to get banned? I do but you probably don't

Yip i do. I dont drink at all so no problem for me.

[30ed32]

so where are you guys importing dmaa from?

[Darkmanx]

so where are you guys importing dmaa from?

Egypt, Nigeria, Congo, Botswana, Zimbabwe to name a few :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[tinytraps]

so where are you guys importing dmaa from?

Uganda. Kony supplying

[30ed32]

thanks will give kony a call

[bang_bang]

Does kony even lift?

[Darkmanx]

Does kony even lift?

Big fuckin guns, You Know It.

[DANIEL8]

I aspecially like this part,Mr Dunne says DMAA, which has been linked to increased blood pressure, headaches and vomiting,. Alcohol does that on a daily basis and even more but that shit doesn't get banned.

alcohol will never get banned. too much money in it. alcohol companies sponsor a lot of events aswell. hmmmmm

[Darkmanx]

I aspecially like this part,Mr Dunne says DMAA, which has been linked to increased blood pressure, headaches and vomiting,. Alcohol does that on a daily basis and even more but that shit doesn't get banned.

alcohol will never get banned. too much money in it. alcohol companies sponsor a lot of events aswell. hmmmmm

:doh: know that allready. Was just merely stating double standerds in this country

[BIGKIWI]

Fortunately the government are still supporting perfectly safe products like alcohol and cigarettes that have no harmful effects.

Thanks for protecting us Mr Dunne!

Thats exactly right Agent what a crock of shit !! the biggest drug dealers out the government who make billions of dollars in taxes from alcohol and cigarettes which cause more deaths and harm than any other substance !! ? while somebody got a headache on DMAA ?? so they ban it !! ???

[tomsammce]

U can't say just because they ban dmaa they can ban alcohol. Do you have any idea how much alcohol contributes to the nz economy, think of all the jobs alcohol creates for nz people... Banning it would just f*ck everyone up, and you would have lots more problems. Your comparing apples with oranges. And to say it's just the govt benefitting from the taxes of alcohol and ciggarettes is just narrow minded.

There is alot of education and programmes set up from the taxes of alcohol and tobacco to education the masses of people who use and consume these two things.

Why would the govt make this kind of effort for something like dmaa for such a minority group of users... That is a waste of money.

Who cares if it's banned it's not that great of a thing.

[Agent]

I see your point, Tom. I certainly don't think alcohol should be banned, I don't many others do either. There are of course major differences between the two. I think people are just pointing out in a general observation where there are a few legal substances that are known to do a lot of damage due to abuse and don't get effectively addressed, yet others that haven't yet appeared to cause widespread harm are quickly banned.

The point about the government, at least in my case wasn't about the government making money, although it is an important source of revenue. What I found interesting was the speed to ban the dangerous DMAA, while ignoring most of the recommendations regarding harm reduction by the law commission and Alcohol Advisory Council, which were even supported by 2/3 to 3/4 of the public based on polls.

Anyway, I actually agree that it's not that great, it's essentially pretty similar to what you get from caffeine IMO, which will presumably always be available cheaply for those looking for a stimulant. I just wouldn't want heavy-handedness to be applied more often, banning creatine for example because it's a 'performance enhancing substance', or based on some misrepresented studies.