If you ran an very underdosed gear cycle...

[crazyfacials]

Or something that was fake, and even though your diet and training was spot on...and the only gains you got were comparable of natty gains... ie decent but nothing to write home about, would you still be considered a gear virgin? would your next cycle of proper stuff yield you good first time cyling gains?

Please discuss

Thanks (This is Dave BTW)

[tomsammce]

Well young chap, back in my day these youngsters who got nil gains would fake gear every single time, I'd tell them dunno how to train and not eating enough... Good luck with your nutrition and training young sir ~

[severe]

Dear Dave, I am writing to you regarding your predicament.

If you had fake gear, that would indicate that you injected cooking oil. You are still natural, and can call the fake cycle 'pinning practice'.

Remember, pinning alone will not result in muscle mass. Get out more.

With love, Aunty S.

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hmmm you're a very wise old man as I can already tell from your avatar, I shall enlist TWL to guide me on how to eat like a beast when I run my limited edition test e (I've left it for a while so it can age like a good wine)

and when I am done, I will go to the previous person and show them my new bulk