Why, why not?

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i will say that conditioning plays a role here. People like me with poor conditioning tend to fail hi-rep work not due to muscular exhaustion but through CV failure. While im working on increasing my CV/GPP, lower reps still allow me to get in volume that fails muscularly, if that makes sense. no point doing 20reps if its your lungs giving out before your muscles.

2c

[tomsammce]

Get ur cv system better then. Being fit has many benefits to weight training and recovery. You'll get better gains for it.

[startinfromscratch]

Get ur cv system better then. Being fit has many benefits to weight training and recovery. You'll get better gains for it.

agree bro. started to do complexes etc to correct it. CF style trining is great for ppl in my situation imo

[HarryB]

You can get lean just relying on diet and might even be able to maintain most of your strength... it's just not optimal.

[HarryB]

Big quads, delts and lats while being lean PLUS getting my strength up

These guys didn't diet to get this way bro... some people are just leaner than others.

[Mike Zero]

Meh, doesn't matter how you train when losing weight more what you eat to complement it. I'm in the best conditioning of my life by doing heavy training and conditioning work so go figure. I also like the idea of focussing on strength training while losing weight - you're not going to put on any muscle either way so you may as well prime the CNS so that when you do start eating more again, you're going to be stronger and put on more muscle. Might not be ideal for getting down to comp level conditioning where every calorie is important, but it does the job initially at least.

Also, who said strength training was easier than bodybuilding training? If I was picking on ease alone I would pick bodybuilding training any day. It might burn more at the time but a cycle of Shieko is far more taxing than a bodybuilding split, where half the exercises you do are generally isolation/machine stuff. No worse a feeling than walking into the gym stiff as hell and knowing you face ANOTHER heavy squat day.

[tomsammce]

Mike trainings are as hard as you make them. Comparing doesn't work.

[soundsgood]

Also, who said strength training was easier than bodybuilding training? If I was picking on ease alone I would pick bodybuilding training any day. It might burn more at the time but a cycle of Shieko is far more taxing than a bodybuilding split, where half the exercises you do are generally isolation/machine stuff. No worse a feeling than walking into the gym stiff as hell and knowing you face ANOTHER heavy squat day.

Oh no you didn't open that can of worms :doh: :-$

Mike trainings are as hard as you make them. Comparing doesn't work.

Exactly this.

Personally I would prefer a session of compounds and have to talk myself into the isolation stuff. Granted I haven't done a sheiko split but I have run many heavy sessions for weeks on end and it just feels more rewarding where as the isolation exercises just keep blasting the same damn muscle over and over taking it to full failure.

[Mike Zero]

Mike trainings are as hard as you make them. Comparing doesn't work.

Yeah I know and SG didn't mean to open up a can of worms. Just reacting to southernsamurai's comment saying that training heavy was being "lazy".

[southernsamurai]

Didnt say heavy lifting was lazy.

Just said that TT came across lazy, he seems to look for a "holy grail" so to speak.

As you know there is no magic pill or substitute to hard training and a dialled in diet!