MTs eats

[M.T]

Hey all so finally got myself into some form of a routine with my eating and wanted your advices if this looks ok. My main concern would be is this enough food for someone who is 6" 100-105 kgs training 4-5 times pw?

In the end I am a PL not a bb so not too concerned with measuring everything hence the vague description below but I don't exactly want to put on anymore fat and hopefully lose some if possible without the expense of losing any strength. Strength is paramount for me not looks though think I can find a balance...

A typical training day would look like this diet and supps: editing as I go

EDIT:2 caps fish oils

cup of Oats w milk (reg) EDIT:1 scoop of protein

large Coffee w milk (reg) currently loading add 3tsp of Creatine Monohydrate

Banana,apple w small pottle youghurt (150gm)

large Coffee w milk (reg)

Uncle bens rice (2 min packet) and Tuna OR Chicken

Pre WO

Protein shake w water (1scoop) and Beta Alanine 2 tsp

Intra

BCAA 1l water

Post WO

Protein shake w water (1scoop) and Beta Alanine 2 tsp

Salad or frozen veges 300-400g protein (fish,chicken,mince,steak)

Pasta or bread.

Hot drink 3tsp of Creatine Monohydrate

ZMA before zzzzzz

Anywhere from 3-6l water perday.

[hhhh1]

seems ok. i would chuck some protein powder in with your oats in the morning, no idea if this would make any difference though

[M.T]

seems ok. i would chuck some protein powder in with your oats in the morning, no idea if this would make any difference though

chur chur I usually do actually just depends if I have my stash with me at work used to do 2 tsp of peanut butter for flavour though cut that out now unless someone thinks it's a good idea having the fats in the morning.

[drizzt]

I'd say just trust what we paid the dietician for bro :-s

[M.T]

I'd say just trust what we paid the dietician for bro :-s

:roll: Were we supposed to be going back in or something? can't recall what she said about that.

[farrout]

How many days are you loading creatine @ 30 grams a day for?

[M.T]

bout 5 or 7 i'd say usually go a week loading then drop to 20g for maint.

[nzmusclemonster]

Looks good.... but does this mean an end to the Joe's Garage big breakfasts??

[M.T]

Looks good.... but does this mean an end to the Joe's Garage big breakfasts??

Wouldn't say the end bro maybe just no fries :wink: and I'll still allow room for a cheat meal or 2 in the weekend so that should be interesting.

we went last sat for old times sakes and they took a good 50mins to bring out our food, I was ready to pack in after 40 but Drizzt convinced me to wait and it was good.

[farrout]

bout 5 or 7 i'd say usually go a week loading then drop to 20g for maint.

Ok, thanks for that.

To maintain on 20 grams a day you must be a big fella?

[M.T]

bout 5 or 7 i'd say usually go a week loading then drop to 20g for maint.

Ok, thanks for that.

To maintain on 20 grams a day you must be a big fella?

Bro our Gyms manager OB told us to load on 30g and stay on it for a month haha don't think I want to be 110kgs thanks. I'd gain a few kilo with the water retention currently 99.5 should get up to 103-105 within the next few weeks then that should taper off when I drop it altogether. With the diet I would hope it'll be all muscle but some fat is expected not kidding myself here.

Oh one thing I found out thismorning don't try to combine the 2x3 tsp into the one 1x6 tsps in a cup of hot tea it's far too much easier to break into the 2 lots morning and night.

[dmcb]

that looks like f*ck all food for someone your weight training that much. Anyone else?

[M.T]

that looks like f*ck all food for someone your weight training that much. Anyone else?

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking hence the post. Glad you saw it, this is probably a tad more than the dietician recommended portion wise. Dinner for example was 250-300g protein cooked isn't much at all. it's bugger all protein and carbs doesn't really mention fats so I added that in where I can. Just seemed like your generic google healthy diet kind of thing but in saying all this I will stick with it to see what the results are.

[dmcb]

I'd add in another one of these "Uncle bens rice (2 min packet) and Tuna OR Chicken" at least

[nzmusclemonster]

Looks good.... but does this mean an end to the Joe's Garage big breakfasts??

Wouldn't say the end bro maybe just no fries :wink: and I'll still allow room for a cheat meal or 2 in the weekend so that should be interesting.

we went last sat for old times sakes and they took a good 50mins to bring out our food, I was ready to pack in after 40 but Drizzt convinced me to wait and it was good.

50 mins??? :shock: I'm surprised you didn't start a riot!

[Pseudonym]

that looks like fuck all food for someone your weight training that much. Anyone else?

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking hence the post. Glad you saw it, this is probably a tad more than the dietician recommended portion wise. Dinner for example was 250-300g protein cooked isn't much at all.

I was surprised at how little protein is actually required to maintain muscle. By the end of my diet, I was down to 180g chicken for a meal - that's only 135g when cooked. Now admittedly I was about 15kg lighter than you, and training for bodybuilding not powerlifting, but my point is you can probably get away with less protein than you think.

Having said that, I notice you're not getting any major source of protein until lunchtime. IMO, that's not ideal, although maybe powerlifters can get away with it more than bodybuilders.

[M.T]

I'd add in another one of these "Uncle bens rice (2 min packet) and Tuna OR Chicken" at least

Tempting though that's kind of what I was doing before and getting the same fat to muscle gains in my personal views. I'll mention this when we go back in for a check up and if I look like a stick figurine all hell will break lose.

that looks like f*ck all food for someone your weight training that much. Anyone else?

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking hence the post. Glad you saw it, this is probably a tad more than the dietician recommended portion wise. Dinner for example was 250-300g protein cooked isn't much at all.

I was surprised at how little protein is actually required to maintain muscle. By the end of my diet, I was down to 180g chicken for a meal - that's only 135g when cooked. Now admittedly I was about 15kg lighter than you, and training for bodybuilding not powerlifting, but my point is you can probably get away with less protein than you think.

Having said that, I notice you're not getting any major source of protein until lunchtime. IMO, that's not ideal, although maybe powerlifters can get away with it more than bodybuilders.

Really? same here I guess need to change my mentality of more is better to right portions is best. They did mention we were over loading on protein after a workout with 2 scoops of protein and I was taking nothing pre wo so spiltting up scoop before and after should be optimal and don't get the surplus as calorie storage (that's probably up for debate but need to listen to the nutritionist for now).

Yep good point I did read that again and breakfast should be 3p carb 2 1/2 protein no idea how I missed the protein part so will add a scoop for breakfast with me oats done. Do you think timing matters at all? say I get to work by 7.30am generally take the 1st 30-40 mins to get my breakfast sorted coffee visit the throne etc.

[farrout]

bout 5 or 7 i'd say usually go a week loading then drop to 20g for maint.

Ok, thanks for that.

To maintain on 20 grams a day you must be a big fella?

Bro our Gyms manager OB told us to load on 30g and stay on it for a month haha don't think I want to be 110kgs thanks. I'd gain a few kilo with the water retention currently 99.5 should get up to 103-105 within the next few weeks then that should taper off when I drop it altogether. With the diet I would hope it'll be all muscle but some fat is expected not kidding myself here.

Oh one thing I found out thismorning don't try to combine the 2x3 tsp into the one 1x6 tsps in a cup of hot tea it's far too much easier to break into the 2 lots morning and night.

Ok, thanks for that.

Are those amounts based on your bodyweight?

[M.T]

Not really I tend to go well over because I have done it a few times I find "overdosing" as such benefits my body better. Obviously larger folk will naturally need more but if you haven't done it before (assuming you haven't) a good way to does it is anywhere from 15-20g when loading (5-7 days) and 0.1g\ kg for maintenance (4-6 weeks) which is a very low dose in my opinion but as mentioned this is from a dietician who we paid good money for.

It's more of a suck and see kind of supp some people will not get anything from it at all I just speak from what worked in the past.

[farrout]

Not really I tend to go well over because I have done it a few times I find "overdosing" as such benefits my body better. Obviously larger folk will naturally need more but if you haven't done it before (assuming you haven't) a good way to does it is anywhere from 15-20g when loading (5-7 days) and 0.1g\ kg for maintenance (4-6 weeks) which is a very low dose in my opinion but as mentioned this is from a dietician who we paid good money for.

It's more of a suck and see kind of supp some people will not get anything from it at all I just speak from what worked in the past.

Ok, thanks man.

I first took creatine in 1995 with grape juice as recommend by the late Dan Duchaine & felt that the recommended loading & maintenance at the time was hit & miss, due to differing bodyweights & composition.

Even though creatine is so cheap now, why stress the kidney's unecessarily & piss money down the drain. Isn't that what alcohol's for? (immature senior moment)

[M.T]

:nod: good call thankfully I'm off the booze for as long as possible shooting for 6 months :shock: prob be 4

[farrout]

:nod: good call thankfully I'm off the booze for as long as possible shooting for 6 months :shock: prob be 4

Use, don't abuse ... :grin:

[nzmusclemonster]

:nod: good call thankfully I'm off the booze for as long as possible shooting for 6 months :shock: prob be 4

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What about all the big events coming up.... 7's etc.... you going into hibernation?

[M.T]

:nod: good call thankfully I'm off the booze for as long as possible shooting for 6 months :shock: prob be 4

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What about all the big events coming up.... 7's etc.... you going into hibernation?

Pretty much brah, not going 7's neither is my flattie so we'd most likely sober drive friends out. Going to homegrown so prob find an "upper" or something to get me into the mood. Not sure what else is on but it won't be that hard will miss my beer or vino at home after a long week or hard session but hey so long as I outlast my mate I have the bet with i'm happy.