Little direction please

[StraydoG]

Hey all.

Thought I would ask as I have searched but seem to get conflicting data unless its a preference thing but if your doing a 3 day split (push/pull/legs) wheres the best place to throw shoulders into that? Also, is it OK to throw abs into one of the push/pull days to have more time to spend on legs?

The other things I cant get a clear picture on is whats the rep/set difference between mass gaining and strength gaining? Another one where I am reading and hearing very different things.

Cheers!

[dannyjay]

You can do shoulders on a push day

Do abs on the 1st and 3rd days of your split - mon & fri

[Phedder]

I always thought the point of a push/pull split is that you're focusing on movements, not muscle groups. Following that, your shoulders should get hit on both upper days. Pushing exercises will hit the front delts, pulling exercises will hit the rear delts. Include some face pulls or rear delt flies if you feel the need, and at least 1 overhead press on push day. Abs whenever you want, or even not at all.

It's generally said that mass gaining is higher reps/ higher volume/moderate weight. And Strength gaining is lower reps/ lower volume/ high weight.

But really, any effective resistance training, ensuring your eating well, should have you gaining both size and strength. I've always focused on strength because I'm piss weak, but with that and eating enough I've gained mass as well (no where near enough though )

What are you goals for this split?

[StraydoG]

2 posts and both different, so maybe its upto the person working out...

Goals are to switch it up. Ive been doing a upper/lower split for 3ish months and want to see how this one works and probably get extra time to train those muscle groups harder. Put on 5 kgs over that period, still fairly lanky so another 5kg with this and see from there.

If someone says 5 sets, does that mean 5 sets at max weight or that include some lower weight set(s) to prepare first?