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CAPO AUSTRALASIA CALENDAR 2012 (AUS/NZ)

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where is quigley? :lol::lol::lol:

China for another 2 weeks

ahh was expecting his reply :grin:

Quigely is a good guy bro. Hes passionate about the sport and there's no doubt some will take exception to any new fed or any changes at all. That's just the way it is. I can understand how some would feel they need to protect what there is currently in place as there is some very hard working people out there doing whatever they can for the fed and the sport in general. Old Bull and Darren Neeves spring immediately to mind. When there is only 200 registered lifters in the entire country and nothing really in the way of grass roots programs going there is indeed a need to protect the time and effort that has gone in.

but...

powerlifting transcends the NZPF and globally it is a growing sport so you have to be realistic about things. If CAPO keeps growing like they are, they will branch out to NZ too. It opens up a heap of possibilities and opportunities ie; Tranz-Tasman events etc and the opportunity to have a choice what fed you lift in.

There are other issues arising which make another choice of fed viable and that is for lifters requiring a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) for such things as hormone problems they may have. The current fed takes a very dim view on Hormone Replacement Therapy and will not issue a TUE. . That was determined by the WADA which sets such policies of the IPF.

A bit more on that...

Taking HRT is not just replacing testosterone for those with below normal levels , but also taking synthroid for below normal thyroid levels (hypothyroidism), or taking insulin for being diabetic. All are low hormone problems treated by therapeutic levels of replacement hormones. All hormones have the potential to be abused or used to treat legitimate medical disorders. That is why the IPF/WADA will approve the medical use of Synthroid and Insulin by the TUE process but for some illogical and medically irresponsible reasons exclude the therapeutic use of replacement testosterone.

The problem is they are more concerned with the stigma of the abuse of testosterone that they refuse to look at the scientific medical necessity for many persons with this disorder. That it might be difficult but not impossible to detect with testing is no excuse to discriminate against this valid medical condition and those diagnosed with it. Going off medication to compete for a plastic trophy is unacceptable as is their treating those on HRT as drug abuser!

Im not speaking from personal experience here so dont get any ideas :roll: but I do have a client (46) who would like to compete at local level but risks the positive test, shaming himself, CBC, the APA and the NZPF. Sadly I told him it wasn't likely he would ever compete for the NZPF but when CAPO branches out to our fair shores then there is that option.

sorry for wandering off :lol:

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China for another 2 weeks

ahh was expecting his reply :grin:

Quigely is a good guy bro. Hes passionate about the sport and there's no doubt some will take exception to any new fed or any changes at all. That's just the way it is. I can understand how some would feel they need to protect what there is currently in place as there is some very hard working people out there doing whatever they can for the fed and the sport in general. Old Bull and Darren Neeves spring immediately to mind. When there is only 200 registered lifters in the entire country and nothing really in the way of grass roots programs going there is indeed a need to protect the time and effort that has gone in.

but...

powerlifting transcends the NZPF and globally it is a growing sport so you have to be realistic about things. If CAPO keeps growing like they are, they will branch out to NZ too. It opens up a heap of possibilities and opportunities ie; Tranz-Tasman events etc and the opportunity to have a choice what fed you lift in.

There are other issues arising which make another choice of fed viable and that is for lifters requiring a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) for such things as hormone problems they may have. The current fed takes a very dim view on Hormone Replacement Therapy and will not issue a TUE. . That was determined by the WADA which sets such policies of the IPF.

A bit more on that...

Taking HRT is not just replacing testosterone for those with below normal levels , but also taking synthroid for below normal thyroid levels (hypothyroidism), or taking insulin for being diabetic. All are low hormone problems treated by therapeutic levels of replacement hormones. All hormones have the potential to be abused or used to treat legitimate medical disorders. That is why the IPF/WADA will approve the medical use of Synthroid and Insulin by the TUE process but for some illogical and medically irresponsible reasons exclude the therapeutic use of replacement testosterone.

The problem is they are more concerned with the stigma of the abuse of testosterone that they refuse to look at the scientific medical necessity for many persons with this disorder. That it might be difficult but not impossible to detect with testing is no excuse to discriminate against this valid medical condition and those diagnosed with it. Going off medication to compete for a plastic trophy is unacceptable as is their treating those on HRT as drug abuser!

Im not speaking from personal experience here so dont get any ideas :roll: but I do have a client (46) who would like to compete at local level but risks the positive test, shaming himself, CBC, the APA and the NZPF. Sadly I told him it wasn't likely he would ever compete for the NZPF but when CAPO branches out to our fair shores then there is that option.

sorry for wandering off :lol:

wasnt hassling quigster, just saying hes usually on threads like this pretty quick :lol::lol:

as for hrt, i speak from personal experience here: I have low test. i have blood tests spanning years to prove it, and lifts to prove it lol. doesnt mean im not putting effort into my training, or that im making excuses, its just an unfortunate fact. basically it means its hard for me to make progress, and easy for me to get fat etc etc.

If i was to ever consider correcting myself medically - which is something i will consider for the future, i could not or would not be able to powerlift in NZ. I am not someone who would compete when not following the rules, so would never sign up to ipf if i was going to be getting treatment that is against the rules.

Even taking most preworkout stims is against ipf regs, so i choose not to be registered. Its simple, either you follow the rules or you dont sign up. most of the issues ipf has with failed tests are from guys who dont take the sport seriously, who sign up for a comp and dont care about the negative implications to NZ powerlifting of their actions.

Im a big fan of powerlifting and i support my club as much as i can (cbc). Right now i have a choice of lifting in ipf with low test, and lifting unregistered and having the option to undertake hrt. Rather than unfairly registering with the ipf and risking a blackmark on NZ's record (something i would never do), i choose to stay off and keep my options open.

^ make of that whatever you want, but its just the truth and there are alot of lifters in a similar boat to myself.

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