Test E and Sust

[whiterhyno]

Thoughts on running the following would be much appreciated

Week 1 & 2

Sust 250, 2ml

Test Enanthate, 1.5ml

Week 3-10

Sust 250, 2ml

Test E, 2.5ml

Week 11 & 12

Test E, 1.5ml

Then PCT

Have some test E and Sust so was just looking at running together over 12 weeks

[DANIEL8]

hey bro, how many cycles have you done so far? and age?

[whiterhyno]

have had a few years off the gear but pretty experienced

Just have 20 of both sust and test e and was trying to see what the best way to run it would be

[tomsammce]

There are no problems with running the course how you've suggested

[whiterhyno]

There are no problems with running the course how you've suggested

Cheers mate

[tomsammce]

There are no problems with running the course how you've suggested

Cheers mate

that's alot of test though, I suggest you keep roughly the same mg/week of total gear but lessen the test and add another compound. Could be abit more beneficial perhaps.

[Growth]

Sounds strange at first glance, but test is test i suppose. Not sure why you have the first two weeks at a lower dosage than 3-10, or why 11-12 taper down (suspect it's because you run out of gear during those weeks).

Why not front load on weeks 1 and 2 and just run at a constant rate after that?

Week 1-2

1500mg (3ml Sust, 3ml Enanthate)

Week 3-12

700mg (1.4ml Sust, 1.4 Enanthate)

Maybe average it over 2 weeks pinning 5 times / 2 weeks E3D, even amounts of each? Its all semantics really, i dont think it will be a game changer whatever way you decide to do it.

[Growth]

that's alot of test though, I suggest you keep roughly the same mg/week of total gear but lessen the test and add another compound. Could be abit more beneficial perhaps.

^ This. If that is an option for you, it's probably a better way to go.

1 + 1 = 3

[tomsammce]

that's alot of test though, I suggest you keep roughly the same mg/week of total gear but lessen the test and add another compound. Could be abit more beneficial perhaps.

^ This. If that is an option for you, it's probably a better way to go.

1 + 1 = 3

1 + 1 = 11 brah lol

[whiterhyno]

Thanks guys, yeah reason is I just have these 2 compounds and wanted to use rather than spend more $ and add a 3rd

I'm gonna get good results but just want the most optimal results

So will do the frontload

Is dropping from the higher dose in weeks 1&2 then to just 700mg for the main length a little low?

[DANIEL8]

why dont you half the dose and run it for double the length of time AND add in a 3rd for the first 12 weeks

[whiterhyno]

why dont you half the dose and run it for double the length of time AND add in a 3rd for the first 12 weeks

Wow, like 24 weeks?

To me that's a long period and your receptors would be do immune by then wouldn't they?

I mean goo for heavy users who stay on, I'm just looking at a basic cycle to add some size nothing to overvthe top like previous years

[Optimass]

why dont you half the dose and run it for double the length of time AND add in a 3rd for the first 12 weeks

Wow, like 24 weeks?

To me that's a long period and your receptors would be do immune by then wouldn't they?

I mean goo for heavy users who stay on, I'm just looking at a basic cycle to add some size nothing to overvthe top like previous years

Not really bro - if you have been off for a few years your almost a blank canvas. be surprised how well it kicks back in. I prefer alternating tests 4 eeks at a time if going longer 24 weeks and a lower dose could mean less potential complications.

Can use both compound together with good effect though. Good luck with the cycle.

[Growth]

Wow, like 24 weeks?

To me that's a long period and your receptors would be do immune by then wouldn't they?

If you mean like the way clen interacts with beta receptors to slowely reduce the number of receptors on the target cell, thus leading to diminishing returns, and after some period you become 'immune' to its effects, then no.

AR receptors are quite different, and in fact the half life of an AR receptor is generally increased by an androgen, as opposed to decreased in the scenario of beta receptors and clen.

[majorflavazz]

can you put the sus and test e in the one needle or will affect eachother duin it like that

[thatwaslight]

can you put the sus and test e in the one needle or will affect eachother duin it like that

Can mix any oil based aas in the same syringe

[severe]

Is dropping from the higher dose in weeks 1&2 then to just 700mg for the main length a little low?

700mg/wk is not low at all.

[I Declare War]

hey bro, how many cycles have you done so far? and age?

I think that's a damn good question. We really should know stats like age, bf%, weight & height, years training, and previous cycle experience.

The stats are very important in helping us give you sound advice.

whiterhyno:

I mean, yeah you say you've got a few cycles under your belt and are pretty experienced... but that doesn't stack up. An experienced user would not be asking these questions.

[HarryB]

Wow, like 24 weeks?

To me that's a long period and your receptors would be do immune by then wouldn't they?

If you mean like the way clen interacts with beta receptors to slowely reduce the number of receptors on the target cell, thus leading to diminishing returns, and after some period you become 'immune' to its effects, then no.

AR receptors are quite different, and in fact the half life of an AR receptor is generally increased by an androgen, as opposed to decreased in the scenario of beta receptors and clen.

????? it's not the same action as it is with clen but it still happens, otherwise there would be no need to ever take more, or change drugs or vary doses... or am I too old school?

[whiterhyno]

hey bro, how many cycles have you done so far? and age?

I think that's a damn good question. We really should know stats like age, bf%, weight & height, years training, and previous cycle experience.

The stats are very important in helping us give you sound advice.

whiterhyno:

I mean, yeah you say you've got a few cycles under your belt and are pretty experienced... but that doesn't stack up. An experienced user would not be asking these questions.

Yeah fair question, its just been a few years since using thats all. So have forgotten a little but I suppose its just a re assurance thing really getting some advice.

But in doing that there are so many differing opinions, much the same with weights and nutrition. Theres no simple black and white answer otherwise we would all look huge and ripped etc.

I have done 2 weeks so far, front loaded with Sust at 1ml twice a week ( Monday and Thursday )

Will switch to the Test E on Monday at the same 1ml twice a week for 10 weeks.

Save the remaining Sust for the next cycle.

Could run 1ml Sust with the 2ml Test E to have more mg a week.

Its tempting but I figure my nutrition is sound, training spot on so will get good gains anyway