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Norateen Heavyweight II

my mate and I are looking into this testosterone booster. after reading up its main ingredients it seems all pretty natural apart from two main ingredients which apparently give an anabolic steroid like effect, WITHOUT the side affects of steroids. is this too good to be true?

I have only used creatine, protein, and presups and have absolutely minimal knowledge in this field. I have done a bit of reading how test-boosters can cause some problems, but this product seems to be more of a natural boost?

was hoping someone would be able to tell if this is any different from the other test-boosters. Im looking to build mass, but i dont wanna damage the body.

so pretty much, is this test-booster gonna screw me over or is it the real deal?

thanks heaps guys

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save your money and spend it on protein. the benefit to cost ratio does not warrant spending the money...

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as in cost on the body? or cost in price?

this particular one is roughly 80 dollars and has tonnes of reviews saying that it increases lean muscle mass by 3-4kg.

@knock

is there a reason you are saying its not the real deal? im would really appreciate your knowledge in this department. not only that i also have to justify it to my 2 mates who are also keen to take this product.

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save your money and spend it on protein. the benefit to cost ratio does not warrant spending the money...

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as in cost on the body? or cost in price?

this particular one is roughly 80 dollars and has tonnes of reviews saying that it increases lean muscle mass by 3-4kg.

@knock

is there a reason you are saying its not the real deal? im would really appreciate your knowledge in this department. not only that i also have to justify it to my 2 mates who are also keen to take this product.

lol the main effect will be on your wallet mate, there is no way that this product will be the catalyst for 4kg of lean mass gain. that effect if observed is more than likely a placebo. if a test booster actually works, bloods can prove its effectiveness and unless you can produce those i would say complete waste of money. the only test booster i'm aware of that has been shown to actually boost testosterone levels to notable levels that is backed up by blood work is novedex xt by gaspari which is now banned.

spend your money on DAA (D aspartic acid) which i think is shown to boost your test levels by 50% or something. but even then at the level of affect we are talking its still 5% of the puzzle, these products do not elicit enough of a hormonal response to be the cornerstone of supplementation.

if your willing to take something to boost your test levels spend your money on real steroids for half the price and get 20X the results

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I tried it, I stacked Norateen Heavyweight II with Norateen II "for best results".

It was NOT benificial in any way, sure I saw some minor gains, but I probably would have made those anyway from Lifting hard/good diet.

Overall - I want my $160 back

oh real? so you used it for the full month and just gained regular progress?

did you feel any side effects mate?

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I tried it, I stacked Norateen Heavyweight II with Norateen II "for best results".

It was NOT benificial in any way, sure I saw some minor gains, but I probably would have made those anyway from Lifting hard/good diet.

Overall - I want my $160 back

oh real? so you used it for the full month and just gained regular progress?

did you feel any side effects mate?

you sound like someone that wants to believe . my bet is you will spend the money anyway. thank you for supporting the supplement industry! :D

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I want to believe, not going to lie haha.

4kg of muscle mass is there to be gained with hard work in the gym, sounds too good to be true if it isnt steroids.

Im just trying to find out as much as i can about this product before i make a call. thanks for all your opinions, really has helped alot

cheers

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I want to believe, not going to lie haha.

4kg of muscle mass is there to be gained with hard work in the gym, sounds too good to be true if it isnt steroids.

Im just trying to find out as much as i can about this product before i make a call. thanks for all your opinions, really has helped alot

cheers

i know that feel brah, just like everyone who is looking for the holy grail of supplements but doesn't want to jump into the deep end (steroids) we want to believe the marketing claims.

Try DAA i have read/heard good things about it but still, don't expect steroid like results from things that aren't steroids.

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DAA for primeminister!

Can vouch for the stuff, and I've tried a lot of test boosters in hope of freakish gains......I was young....ish. Got half way through a DAA cycle NEK MINIT needle in the thigh. Lol

DAA boosts Test by 42%, LH by 30% after 3g for 12 days and some think a GH increase too. , unfortunately the study doesn't say much more than that.

Mad natural Roids, I see more hair growth when using it so it definitely works.

You wanna couple it with an OTC AI though.

Something with nettle root, avena sativa, 3IC etc, any substance that will free up test.

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Seems like you gt the opposite of what you were hoping for.

If you do buy norateen, buy 6 months supply. Then, when you realise by month 3 that it does shit, you can atleast try to recoup some lost money by selling teh remainder to your mates who also want to believe.

Just tell them they boosting on it, and they will buy it.

Or do as TWL mentioned, and buy the 'real' real deal... aas

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@severe haha thats a pretty good plan

@chemo

yea really interested in the DAA now, what are some good brands? also the OTC AI is that an estrogen blocker?

so taking any hormonal stuff gives estrogen and test?

last thing- the comment on freeing up the test, is it a bad idea if you dont try to cleanse it out?

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save your money and spend it on protein. the benefit to cost ratio does not warrant spending the money...

/thread

as in cost on the body? or cost in price?

this particular one is roughly 80 dollars and has tonnes of reviews saying that it increases lean muscle mass by 3-4kg.

@knock

is there a reason you are saying its not the real deal? im would really appreciate your knowledge in this department. not only that i also have to justify it to my 2 mates who are also keen to take this product.

lol the main effect will be on your wallet mate, there is no way that this product will be the catalyst for 4kg of lean mass gain. that effect if observed is more than likely a placebo. if a test booster actually works, bloods can prove its effectiveness and unless you can produce those i would say complete waste of money. the only test booster i'm aware of that has been shown to actually boost testosterone levels to notable levels that is backed up by blood work is novedex xt by gaspari which is now banned.spend your money on DAA (D aspartic acid) which i think is shown to boost your test levels by 50% or something. but even then at the level of affect we are talking its still 5% of the puzzle, these products do not elicit enough of a hormonal response to be the cornerstone of supplementation.

if your willing to take something to boost your test levels spend your money on real steroids for half the price and get 20X the results

Banned from import but still available here in NZ

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