HCG?

[h-towngear]

Hey bros,

i was planning on doing a reasonably long cycle, say at least 20 - 30 weeks, but im a bit worried about my balls shutting down.

I still hope to have kids when i get older, so im just a bit worried about testicular atrophy.

I understand all the pros use HCG to stop that problem?

Also can you even get HCG in New Zealand easily?

[DANIEL8]

how old are you ? stats etc?

just bein nosey

[h-towngear]

24, about 5'11 105kgs

[DANIEL8]

sweet, just run the cycle dude, with a proper pct you should have your nuts up and running in no time afterwards, unfortunatley i cant help with the next part of your question, hopefully MNZ will make an appearance soon lol.

[h-towngear]

thanks bro,

hopefully can still find out a bit more about it though, i hear its a good way to stop shutdown and hold your gains alot better

[farrout]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

[ravi1414]

I know what you are talking about. My mate has actually imported it from overseas and it came to him without hassle. It was called HCGenerate. One of the best in the market. Use it in PCT ..

[h-towngear]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

I'm always a bit skeptical about these herbal remedys but if it works as you days it does i will definatly have to give it a try. where do you buy it from? a chemist?

[farrout]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

I'm always a bit skeptical about these herbal remedys but if it works as you days it does i will definatly have to give it a try. where do you buy it from? a chemist?

I got 2 500 gram packs of DAA for $56 delivered from nzbodybuilding.co.nz. Let me know how it goes for you.

[h-towngear]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

I'm always a bit skeptical about these herbal remedys but if it works as you days it does i will definatly have to give it a try. where do you buy it from? a chemist?

I got 2 500 gram packs of DAA for $56 delivered from nzbodybuilding.co.nz. Let me know how it goes for you.

thanks bro, will do

[farrout]

I'm always a bit skeptical about these herbal remedys but if it works as you days it does i will definatly have to give it a try. where do you buy it from? a chemist?

I got 2 500 gram packs of DAA for $56 delivered from nzbodybuilding.co.nz. Let me know how it goes for you.

thanks bro, will do

No sweat man, it freaked me out when I first noticed they'd shrunk :oops:

[tomsammce]

I got 2 500 gram packs of DAA for $56 delivered from nzbodybuilding.co.nz. Let me know how it goes for you.

thanks bro, will do

No sweat man, it freaked me out when I first noticed they'd shrunk :oops:

did you not expect it to happen?

do you guys read anything before you use, or just start injecting and make all these mystery discoveries along the way? lol

[h-towngear]

lol of course i know the nuts shrink, my question was whether HCG will stop atrophy on long cycles, and whether it was hard to come by

[farrout]

thanks bro, will do

No sweat man, it freaked me out when I first noticed they'd shrunk :oops:

did you not expect it to happen?

do you guys read anything before you use, or just start injecting and make all these mystery discoveries along the way? lol

I knew it would happen man, however not to the extent that it did.

[thatwaslight]

they bounce back mate. dont worry about it

[I Declare War]

they bounce back mate. dont worry about it

It's a bit silly keeping them going throughout such a long cycle using HCG IMO.

If you can get some HCG, run it immediately post-cycle for a couple of weeks before starting with Clomid or Nolva.

You can get HCG here, but it's one of the harder ones... pharmacies store it in the cold... so I'd be hesitant buying it off anyone who hasn't had it refrigerated. If you can get a source that can get you legit Pharma, that's the way to go.

[Anaru84]

sweet, just run the cycle dude, with a proper pct you should have your nuts up and running in no time afterwards, unfortunatley i cant help with the next part of your question, hopefully MNZ will make an appearance soon lol.

i think this is the worst piece of advice i have ever read.....

hCG is necessary every cycle to keep the leydig cells stimulated to the effects of LH. the longer the u dont receive any stimulation the more risk u run at not being able to recover properly. u can permanently damage they leydig cells!

i run hCG every cycle at 250iu twice a week for the entirety of the cycle and a week or 2 into what i call pct. i dont even do a standard pct. i run a natural supplement called res100 and tococaps which and that is it. i can continue to gain and have had test results of 24mn/ol (or what ever it is) 8 weeks after a cycle.

hCG should be available in NZ through the pharmacy made by schering-plough.

[farrout]

hCG should be available in NZ through the pharmacy made by schering-plough.

My endo would not prescribe, so my GP definitely wouldn't.

Surely it's not OTC?

[I Declare War]

hCG should be available in NZ through the pharmacy made by schering-plough.

My endo would not prescribe, so my GP definitely wouldn't.

Surely it's not OTC?

My GP tried to prescribe it for me once, but it wasn't in the database.

[bulking4ever]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

Bro that sounds quite interesting, specially at such good price. Have you been using it while on cycle though?

[musclenz]

sweet, just run the cycle dude, with a proper pct you should have your nuts up and running in no time afterwards, unfortunatley i cant help with the next part of your question, hopefully MNZ will make an appearance soon lol.

i think this is the worst piece of advice i have ever read.....

hCG is necessary every cycle to keep the leydig cells stimulated to the effects of LH. the longer the u dont receive any stimulation the more risk u run at not being able to recover properly. u can permanently damage they leydig cells!

i run hCG every cycle at 250iu twice a week for the entirety of the cycle and a week or 2 into what i call pct. i dont even do a standard pct. i run a natural supplement called res100 and tococaps which and that is it. i can continue to gain and have had test results of 24mn/ol (or what ever it is) 8 weeks after a cycle.

hCG should be available in NZ through the pharmacy made by schering-plough.

HCG is not available to males as part of the health system in NZ. For females it is listed under Pregnyl. It is quite hard to source in NZ & then quite expensive on top of a cycle. 10 yrs ago no one using AAS even knew what HCG was. Testicular atrophy does not occur in all users of AAS & is somewhat dose related. In fact it would be an interesting poll to start as to how many of the users on here are effected. My boys still dangle away in the wind & always have. HCG only mimics LH & is not entirely successful in restarting HPTA after a long cycle. Is it worth using it just for cosmetic reasons. Maybe some would say it is but we don't f*ck with out balls do we :grin:

[farrout]

I'll probably get laughed off the Forum, however what I've been using as an alternative WORKS.

I used the herb Vitex - 1000mg before bed - for around a year for testicle atrophy until recently reading that D-Aspartic Acid was being used as an HCG alternative with great results.

Since I've started taking - 3 grams a day - the boys have plumped up & are actually bigger than I can recall them ever being, however Vitex didn't do a bad job either.

Bro that sounds quite interesting, specially at such good price. Have you been using it while on cycle though?

Yea man - 3 grams a day.

[farrout]

sweet, just run the cycle dude, with a proper pct you should have your nuts up and running in no time afterwards, unfortunatley i cant help with the next part of your question, hopefully MNZ will make an appearance soon lol.

i think this is the worst piece of advice i have ever read.....

hCG is necessary every cycle to keep the leydig cells stimulated to the effects of LH. the longer the u dont receive any stimulation the more risk u run at not being able to recover properly. u can permanently damage they leydig cells!

i run hCG every cycle at 250iu twice a week for the entirety of the cycle and a week or 2 into what i call pct. i dont even do a standard pct. i run a natural supplement called res100 and tococaps which and that is it. i can continue to gain and have had test results of 24mn/ol (or what ever it is) 8 weeks after a cycle.

hCG should be available in NZ through the pharmacy made by schering-plough.

HCG is not available to males as part of the health system in NZ. For females it is listed under Pregnyl. It is quite hard to source in NZ & then quite expensive on top of a cycle. 10 yrs ago no one using AAS even knew what HCG was. Testicular atrophy does not occur in all users of AAS & is somewhat dose related. In fact it would be an interesting poll to start as to how many of the users on here are effected. My boys still dangle away in the wind & always have. HCG only mimics LH & is not entirely successful in restarting HPTA after a long cycle. Is it worth using it just for cosmetic reasons. Maybe some would say it is but we don't f*ck with out balls do we :grin:

Ha ha funny man :grin:

[train hard]

as long as i can get a hard on i don,t care what happens to my nuts (srs)

[I Declare War]

as long as i can get a hard on i don,t care what happens to my nuts 9 (srs)

couldn't have said it better. lol