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i gave up the game long time back ... i learnt my lessons from gear

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i cant say after all the b.s i went thru in this "game" that i will ever rediscover the passion for it

Sorry to hear that. Reading between the lines, you had a less-than-perfect steroids experience, I take it? Could you elaborate on that in the Steroids forum?

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i gave up the game long time back ... i learnt my lessons from gear

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i cant say after all the b.s i went thru in this "game" that i will ever rediscover the passion for it

Sorry to hear that. Reading between the lines, you had a less-than-perfect steroids experience, I take it? Could you elaborate on that in the Steroids forum?

Agree would make for good reading. I think many are naive about the fact that the AAS path isn't always rosy. :nod:

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yea.. i could but most people know my story from when i was here last, just bunk gear, bad source a couple times LOL (scammed), extremely slow rebound with incorrect pct (due to not recieving goods as expected LOL), depression, fat gain, libido loss, anxiety attacks,.... also had a abscess drained in hospital at one stage during the 2 years i used off and on

now i have constant joint issues and injuries, my archillies insertion have been stuffed since using some harsh anti estrogens Letrozole (femara)

cant say 100% it was the gear or AI's but it all started around that time.

my body is just a mess, CNS is not working up to scratch... dealing with a neck injury at the moment from slipping over... im 23 and its taken me 5 months and im still in pain again im not saying with any proof its gear related just that i was a fit 19- 20 year old, cycled for 2 years off and on, have terrible time coming off it, then my body just started falling apart with so many injuries and issues, i have never been the same. could of just been me...

but since changing my diet i have improved allot and im 82-85kg normal person weight (down from a fat 105kg)

life experience so thats why i quit the game, i just want to play sport again but my body wont allow me to , but im not giving up just yet!

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sounds like a hell of a ride

funny that... today at the gym a old guy was chattin to me and said his old personal trainer was a bodybuilder and got in to steroids, said he got massive! and 2 years after that he caught up with him some where and he said that he was pretty much a vege wlkn round fukd an couldnt talk ... owch!

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Its weird because i still think how good it was when you are on cycle. lol

im not trying to tell people not to use, just do the research and do it correctly. i was to ever use again, it would be test at a HRT dose and it would be for life.

the coming off and on, fucking with hormones, estrogen spikes, all of that fucks people up mentally and physically.

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Its weird because i still think how good it was when you are on cycle. lol

im not trying to tell people not to use, just do the research and do it correctly. i was to ever use again, it would be test at a HRT dose and it would be for life.

the coming off and on, fucking with hormones, estrogen spikes, all of that fucks people up mentally and physically.

Everyones different brah, some people do no pct and have no issues..

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No, wouldnt put it down to that as i was never Massive or anything, i carried alot of excess fat i maxed out at 105kg im 6 foot.

i cant find anything that supports that the gear has had an impact on my overall injuries/joint problems etc, but im sure it has, as it started when i came off the gear using some harsh anti estrogen, then my hormone levels where stuffed for around 9 months (had blood tests) and i went thru a mental hell.

if i could have my time again i would of stayed being a fit sports person that went to the gym occasionally. like i said im 23 and cant even go for a run....

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sorry to hear, but you are still young so keep on keeping on. You probably already know but light exercise will help with the mind stuff so do what you can. Plenty (read most) will go through some form of depression in their life time and alot at your age. Sounds like you have done a good job getting through and have a great attitude. Good on ya for sharing your story.

Andy.

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Yea mate im a billion times better than i was a few years back, it was a tough year the year i came off the gear (think it was 2009...? cant remember). i dont blame gear fully and i dont want to put people off using it (as like most will tell you they suffer zero sides and adverse issues when discontinuing use) , as i really enjoyed the time i was on, also the amount of time i spent researching and understanding was great but nothing really prepares you for a test crash / estrogen hike lol.

Thats why i recommend a very extensive PCT to everyone that asks me anything about gear. Some mates say "oh im going to get some test from a mens clinic, go there every week for a shot, its clean and legit blah blah" but they dont provide a PCT... so i tell them not to do it IMO but also mention they MAY be ok...

Has anyone had a harsh time with joints etc when using AIs or anything? any long term issues?

*my other mate that was doing the same as me also ended up having psychological issues and depression that led him into spending some time in a clinic* AGAIN - this is not PROOF of anything, it could all be coincidence, not trying to put scare tactics out there or anything... *

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what did you do for PCT Ab, just letrozole or did you also use nolva?

Hey mate, i used nolva over the first few cycles, but usually would cycle back on pretty quick , . and even when i would stop the nolva i would get pretty bad estrogen rebound, swollen nipples and shit, low sex drive, But i also had those symptoms (swallon nips and that - MENTAL sex drive on cycle lol :)) when on test especially my first cycle of sus250. so i tried using some nolva during cycle at one stage i think... but this was sort of the first cycle i did.

because i didnt have pct i tried tapering off the test but still was not good, i have the feeling the test i was using was shit...

i used the letro when i was coming off for good as i was struggling (and i got scammed for some nolva) but everytime i would stop the letro i would have a rebound of some sort, and i would feel like shit, it leterally took me 9 months to get right again, hormone wise, mentally, and im still to this day struggling physically. ..

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That sucks mate. Especially about getting scammed on PCT as well. I think it's so important that guys get their full PCT well researched and actually in their possession before even thinking about starting a cycle.

I can definitely appreciate what it has been like for you as I well know the link between hormones and depression - although my experience with both cycling and coming off has been much more positive.

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Yea, there is a link for sure, there has to be, its not natural for guys to have super low test levels and estrogen thru the roof, coming off for me was like withdrawing from something, the random panic attacks etc... was shocking, and i had no idea what it was all about... thought i had a heart problem at one stage.. f*ck lol...

but yea, a huge life experience ... i always wonder now IF i just went back on would it help heal my body and i would be able to play sport again... but just thinking back on the whole experience i wouldnt touch anything again, like i said above i would only ever use again if it was at a HRT dose of test and for life. maybe 40 years old + lol. But i would have to have nolva on hand.

everything is back to normal now apart from my body being extremely injury prone and joint problems. my archillies insertions are the worst, 2 years of treatments and specialists and no answer, just have to tape them up every week. & my neck is wrecked but that is recent and could be un related.

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