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first cycle completed, review.

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note: did a small 6 week cycle as my 'first', but did it badly. so this was my first proper cycle.

used: test cyp,test E, liquid dbol, femera, clomid, nolva

cycle - 500mg test per week, 2 shots a week.

oral - liquid dbol. 25-40mg ED, pulse dosing. first 3 weeks.

pct meds - nolva, clomid

length - 17 weeks.

weight gained - 15kg

weight kept - 12kg

review

for all but the last 3 weeks of cycle, i was using non-brand UG test. Really well dosed, but was a real c*nt dealing with the swollen lumps i got in the days post jab. i could have cut with grapeseed, but just tuffed it out. switched to titan testE at the end - alot more $$ but was worth having no site pain.

pinning - used 22G 1.5" pins on glutes,23G 1" for delts.

dbol - got crazy back pump, water gain etc, actually too much as i had to cut out the dbol due to kidneys aching constantly. If i did again, i would spread the dose instead of pulse dosing. kidney pain subsided 3 days after stopping dbol.

sides - nipps got a TINY bit sensitive about the same time i dropped the dbol, took 1mg of fem (bugger all). never had any other estro sides through whole cycle, including pct. acne was present from week4 onward, and some narly acne through the 'pct' time.

good sides - strength and mass gains! :lol:

pct - started 2 weeks after last shot. felt fine up to this point, but REALLY hit the wall after the 2 weeks, i even started a thread about it. started first week taking 20mg nolva & 50mg clomid ED, then just hit nolva 40mg ED for the 2nd week. about to go into 3rd week, will stay on the 40mg ED, then move to 20mg ED. but feeling back to normal now. Have seemed to keep my strength too 8) .

already planning next one, loved it!

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You could've mixed the stronger oil with the Titan oil, and reduced the pain, while increasing the Titan. .5ml of one, .5ml of other, in the same barrel. Just a thought. I have done it with oils before.

It will be interesting to see what you hold onto in the next month. Cheers for sharing.

Nice review. How many weeks exactly did you run test E for? Notice many "mental" sides from it?

I find Test E to be the great at staying high on life. Do you mean after the cycle or during?

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na i just got some stuff off a guy on this forum that came from a guy out there. had to throw it away... loaded with BA, you couldnt walk from only putting 0.25ml into your leg... had little bits of shit floating around in the vials too... would been able to make it usuable by diluting it down with grapseed oil but my guess is woulda had to dilute so much to make painfree that to get 250mg of test would had to use 5ml lol... making it 50mg/ml... just stupid!

straight dodgy.. the guy making it obviously doesnt know what hes doing, thats why its so cheap because its shit

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Nice review. How many weeks exactly did you run test E for? Notice many "mental" sides from it?

i think it was 17 weeks. planned 14, but had extra test so did more. only mental side was feeling great...

You could've mixed the stronger oil with the Titan oil, and reduced the pain, while increasing the Titan. .5ml of one, .5ml of other, in the same barrel. Just a thought. I have done it with oils before.

yea that wouldve worked i think - i know a few ppl who use the UG stuff i used, who usually cut it 50% with grapeseed. ie 1ml test,.5ml grapeseed. would be fine for a beginner cycle but i guess the big boys would end up with way too bigger jabs.

was ur unlabbelled UG stuff was from a guy in sth auckland??

yes, we are talkig about the same dude. Apart from the BA probs, his gear strength is def legit - strongest liquid orals around (in the opinion of those using them). And the price was great.

incidentally it was this guys gear that was being diluted and onsold by a certain pair of middle eastern fags awhile back.

na i just got some stuff off a guy on this forum that came from a guy out there. had to throw it away... loaded with BA, you couldnt walk from only putting 0.25ml into your leg... had little bits of shit floating around in the vials too... would been able to make it usuable by diluting it down with grapseed oil but my guess is woulda had to dilute so much to make painfree that to get 250mg of test would had to use 5ml lol... making it 50mg/ml... just stupid!

straight dodgy.. the guy making it obviously doesnt know what hes doing, thats why its so cheap because its shit

yea site pain was a bitch alright! i went through 40ml of test like that LOL.

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well since you know him... why is the BA content so high? whats his excuse... i find it mind boggling as to how someone can make that mistake in the first place let alone make the mistake 5 times with 5 different batches (test e, test c, sus250, deca, test p) which made me think its all just one or two batches meaning its all just one or two compounds sold as different compounds to please the demand of his market and secure sales.

you arent going to know the difference between, test e, test c and sus250.

they also have bits floating around in the vials... thats unhygenic and dangerous, you dont want anything foreign particles going into your body with the oil that a recipe for disaster.

what do you think? didnt you think of this and question it straight away?

i did...

thoughts?

p.s - of course the price was good it would have to be for ppl to put up with the unessercery pain.

there are some real cowboys out there who think theyre Victor Conte when they get abit of powder in their hands, be careful bro.

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Dont bother with Clomid waste of time. Rather spend the money to get Adex or letrozole plus research has shown no difference in PCT results between using 40mg ED of Nolva and 20MG so better off saving the extra tab. By the way just my two cents but the starting PCT 2 weeks after you finish is horsesh*t I know alot of forums recommend it but your better off starting within the same week at least as you last shot coz you want your levels to be back to baseline ASAP no point in thinking, waiting another 2 weeks will keep your IGF-1 levels peaking and an extra 'boost of gains'. Cheers dont take the advice too badly just a thought.

note: did a small 6 week cycle as my 'first', but did it badly. so this was my first proper cycle.

used: test cyp,test E, liquid dbol, femera, clomid, nolva

cycle - 500mg test per week, 2 shots a week.

oral - liquid dbol. 25-40mg ED, pulse dosing. first 3 weeks.

pct meds - nolva, clomid

length - 17 weeks.

weight gained - 15kg

weight kept - 12kg

review

for all but the last 3 weeks of cycle, i was using non-brand UG test. Really well dosed, but was a real c*nt dealing with the swollen lumps i got in the days post jab. i could have cut with grapeseed, but just tuffed it out. switched to titan testE at the end - alot more $$ but was worth having no site pain.

pinning - used 22G 1.5" pins on glutes,23G 1" for delts.

dbol - got crazy back pump, water gain etc, actually too much as i had to cut out the dbol due to kidneys aching constantly. If i did again, i would spread the dose instead of pulse dosing. kidney pain subsided 3 days after stopping dbol.

sides - nipps got a TINY bit sensitive about the same time i dropped the dbol, took 1mg of fem (bugger all). never had any other estro sides through whole cycle, including pct. acne was present from week4 onward, and some narly acne through the 'pct' time.

good sides - strength and mass gains! :lol:

pct - started 2 weeks after last shot. felt fine up to this point, but REALLY hit the wall after the 2 weeks, i even started a thread about it. started first week taking 20mg nolva & 50mg clomid ED, then just hit nolva 40mg ED for the 2nd week. about to go into 3rd week, will stay on the 40mg ED, then move to 20mg ED. but feeling back to normal now. Have seemed to keep my strength too 8) .

already planning next one, loved it!

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well since you know him... why is the BA content so high? whats his excuse... i find it mind boggling as to how someone can make that mistake in the first place let alone make the mistake 5 times with 5 different batches (test e, test c, sus250, deca, test p) which made me think its all just one or two batches meaning its all just one or two compounds sold as different compounds to please the demand of his market and secure sales.

you arent going to know the difference between, test e, test c and sus250.

they also have bits floating around in the vials... thats unhygenic and dangerous, you dont want anything foreign particles going into your body with the oil that a recipe for disaster.

what do you think? didnt you think of this and question it straight away?

i did...

thoughts?

p.s - of course the price was good it would have to be for ppl to put up with the unessercery pain.

there are some real cowboys out there who think theyre Victor Conte when they get abit of powder in their hands, be careful bro.

Hes not a cowboy bro. I know him well, but he isnt a friend. I bought off him

knowing several people who use his gear, and he told me at the time that there was a chance it might be abit sore. And as you know, honesty isnt that common in AAS business.

Im not saying that selling sore gear is ok, lets be clear. im just saying - if you are prepared to bake it/cut it, you can get strong gear for cheap, which is what i did.

As for selling compounds as other compounds, no way. i know alot of guys using his gear, not a chance. I beleive after my experiences and others, its the hormone you can see floating. i had the same issue, i even posted a thread about it lol.

fair questions bro, and like i said - an honest drug dealer is hard to find :lol:

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Dont bother with Clomid waste of time. Rather spend the money to get Adex or letrozole plus research has shown no difference in PCT results between using 40mg ED of Nolva and 20MG so better off saving the extra tab. By the way just my two cents but the starting PCT 2 weeks after you finish is horsesh*t I know alot of forums recommend it but your better off starting within the same week at least as you last shot coz you want your levels to be back to baseline ASAP no point in thinking, waiting another 2 weeks will keep your IGF-1 levels peaking and an extra 'boost of gains'. Cheers dont take the advice too badly just a thought.

im always keen for advice brah, im just a baby in the aas game. I had already been thinking i wont bother with the clomid next time. interesting about the 40mg nolva though, i will ask WBJ about it :lol::lol:

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