My Cycle

[H.White]

Hey guys. Going to start my first cycle. Im 6'1 gone from 69kg to around 97kg at approx 14% bodyfat (my guess no idea really). Goals on cycle are to get to a solid 100kg. Most of my training is for boxing so i want to stay fairly lean.

This is what im planning on running below. Any tips, changes or thoughts would be a huge help. Been training for nearly 3 years so have some experience on the diet and training side of things.

Week 1-12

500mg test-e ( 2x 250mg week)

20mg a day roaccutane

Week 1-4

20mg dbol a day

Week 14-16

Nolva (or on cycle if problems occur)

Start nolva 2weeks from last pin?

I have Deca also but seems like i shouldnt get toooo carried away with first cycle. Im serious about it though and want to do it right. Training and diet will be sorted. Had liver tested and came back healthy.

Cheers for any info/help fellas

[Usual Suspect]

Congratulations.

This is the most sensible first cycle post I've ever seen. You've made great gains naturally. Shown great commitment and obviously have your nutrition sorted and you've done your research into what makes a good first cycle.

500mg test e for 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart will easily see you through to a solid 100kg.

Start your nolva 2 weeks after last pin 40mg/ day first 2 weeks. Taper to 20mg/ day last 2 weeks.

Interesting you have chosen to take roaccutane right from the start. Do you already have acne problems or are you just taking it for precaution? Roaccutane can dry out your joints a bit and make recovery after hard sessions a bit sore.

Hold onto your Deca for your next cycle. Don't play all your cards too soon.

Best of luck and keep us updated. Would love before and after pics!

[DANIEL8]

why did you get the deca in the first place if you aint gonna use it?

[AlBundy]

Congratulations.

This is the most sensible first cycle post I've ever seen. You've made great gains naturally. Shown great commitment and obviously have your nutrition sorted and you've done your research into what makes a good first cycle.

500mg test e for 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart will easily see you through to a solid 100kg.

Start your nolva 2 weeks after last pin 40mg/ day first 2 weeks. Taper to 20mg/ day last 2 weeks.

Interesting you have chosen to take roaccutane right from the start. Do you already have acne problems or are you just taking it for precaution? Roaccutane can dry out your joints a bit and make recovery after hard sessions a bit sore.

Hold onto your Deca for your next cycle. Don't play all your cards too soon.

Best of luck and keep us updated. Would love before and after pics!

What about ancillaries to have on the side incase he finds out he's gyno prone?? Do you have extra nolva and an ai on hand just incase?

Edit: Just noticed you said you have some for on cycle if probs occur. I'm planning on running pretty much this exact same cycle as well.

[H.White]

Congratulations.

This is the most sensible first cycle post I've ever seen. You've made great gains naturally. Shown great commitment and obviously have your nutrition sorted and you've done your research into what makes a good first cycle.

500mg test e for 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart will easily see you through to a solid 100kg.

Start your nolva 2 weeks after last pin 40mg/ day first 2 weeks. Taper to 20mg/ day last 2 weeks.

Interesting you have chosen to take roaccutane right from the start. Do you already have acne problems or are you just taking it for precaution? Roaccutane can dry out your joints a bit and make recovery after hard sessions a bit sore.

Hold onto your Deca for your next cycle. Don't play all your cards too soon.

Best of luck and keep us updated. Would love before and after pics!

Thanks. Chosen to use roaccutane because ive been on it for 4 months. Started 20mg then 40 then 60 then 40 and back on 20mg for past month. I dont have acne problems but i am prone to it so going to stay on 20mg to hopefully help. I havent had any joint problems while on. I take lots of fish oils etc to help keep joint health.

I will upload before and after pics.

[H.White]

why did you get the deca in the first place if you aint gonna use it?

Why not... I mentioned i had it because im on roaccutane and deca may help with possible joint problems. Just wanted some thoughts on that.

My steroid collection has all sorts in it. I have no intentions on using everything. Just want a decent cycle that suits my goals and training style

[H.White]

Congratulations.

This is the most sensible first cycle post I've ever seen. You've made great gains naturally. Shown great commitment and obviously have your nutrition sorted and you've done your research into what makes a good first cycle.

500mg test e for 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart will easily see you through to a solid 100kg.

Start your nolva 2 weeks after last pin 40mg/ day first 2 weeks. Taper to 20mg/ day last 2 weeks.

Interesting you have chosen to take roaccutane right from the start. Do you already have acne problems or are you just taking it for precaution? Roaccutane can dry out your joints a bit and make recovery after hard sessions a bit sore.

Hold onto your Deca for your next cycle. Don't play all your cards too soon.

Best of luck and keep us updated. Would love before and after pics!

What about ancillaries to have on the side incase he finds out he's gyno prone?? Do you have extra nolva and an ai on hand just incase?

Hey mate. Ive got extra nolva on hand just in case. But that is all. You obviously recommend having more on hand?

Cheers

[AlBundy]

Congratulations.

This is the most sensible first cycle post I've ever seen. You've made great gains naturally. Shown great commitment and obviously have your nutrition sorted and you've done your research into what makes a good first cycle.

500mg test e for 12 weeks with a dbol kickstart will easily see you through to a solid 100kg.

Start your nolva 2 weeks after last pin 40mg/ day first 2 weeks. Taper to 20mg/ day last 2 weeks.

Interesting you have chosen to take roaccutane right from the start. Do you already have acne problems or are you just taking it for precaution? Roaccutane can dry out your joints a bit and make recovery after hard sessions a bit sore.

Hold onto your Deca for your next cycle. Don't play all your cards too soon.

Best of luck and keep us updated. Would love before and after pics!

What about ancillaries to have on the side incase he finds out he's gyno prone?? Do you have extra nolva and an ai on hand just incase?

Hey mate. Ive got extra nolva on hand just in case. But that is all. You obviously recommend having more on hand?

Cheers

I was just wondering actually what peoples opinions on this are. I understand having nolva on hand in case of itchy nips or any sort of sign of gyno is so you can quickly counteract the estrogen binding to the receptors in that tissue. But wouldn't symptoms come back once you stopped taking the nolva or would you run the nolva for the rest of the cycle at a low dose e.g 10mgs or would you use the nolva first then start running an aromatase inhibitor for the rest of the cycle?

I haven't used gear before so don't have first hand knowledge bud I missed that you said you had some on hand in case of problems on cycle.

[H.White]

Sweet as can hopefully get some info from so dudes who have experience in it. I understand what your saying and would like to know what/how long to have nolva for if problems occur on cycle.

I also have proviron. But never did any research into it as i was planning on just using nolva

[DANIEL8]

why did you get the deca in the first place if you aint gonna use it?

Why not... I mentioned i had it because im on roaccutane and deca may help with possible joint problems. Just wanted some thoughts on that.

My steroid collection has all sorts in it. I have no intentions on using everything. Just want a decent cycle that suits my goals and training style

hopefully your house doesnt get robbed and all your gear stolen

[pyro]

why did you get the deca in the first place if you aint gonna use it?

Why not... I mentioned i had it because im on roaccutane and deca may help with possible joint problems. Just wanted some thoughts on that.

My steroid collection has all sorts in it. I have no intentions on using everything. Just want a decent cycle that suits my goals and training style

hopefully your house doesnt get robbed and all your gear stolen

What the hell sort of thing is that to say......

[H.White]

why did you get the deca in the first place if you aint gonna use it?

Why not... I mentioned i had it because im on roaccutane and deca may help with possible joint problems. Just wanted some thoughts on that.

My steroid collection has all sorts in it. I have no intentions on using everything. Just want a decent cycle that suits my goals and training style

hopefully your house doesnt get robbed and all your gear stolen

I really dont know why you said that.... Please keep comments on topic.