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How big can you get without steroids?

tomleegolf

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Not saying its he's not but I know a few stauch "Natural" competitors that are not actually that - and that have built careers advertising this. Both here and in the states.

Ah yes, my illusions of natural competitors being just that were shattered some years ago when I became aware of people like you mention, it was quite disappointing. I have no issues with AAS whatsoever, it just annoys me that natural competitors don't even have 1 fed to themselves. There are plenty of untested comps for those who want to use AAS.

The reason I believe a fair few of these guys are legit is that I reached similar measurements to some of these guys naturally, and I don't believe I'm especially gifted. How small some of these guys are can be really surprising, and when you see them in normal clothes they can be absolutely dwarfed next to known AAS using guys.

But as I said before, you never can tell. There are AAS users who are small, and natural guys who are big. So I believe it's possible to build an impressive natural physique on the level of some of the guys in the above thread, but as far as telling who actually does? If someone really doesn't want you to know what they use, you won't.

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Not saying its he's not but I know a few stauch "Natural" competitors that are not actually that - and that have built careers advertising this. Both here and in the states.

Ah yes, my illusions of natural competitors being just that were shattered some years ago when I became aware of people like you mention, it was quite disappointing. I have no issues with AAS whatsoever, it just annoys me that natural competitors don't even have 1 fed to themselves. There are plenty of untested comps for those who want to use AAS.

The reason I believe a fair few of these guys are legit is that I reached similar measurements to some of these guys naturally, and I don't believe I'm especially gifted. How small some of these guys are can be really surprising, and when you see them in normal clothes they can be absolutely dwarfed next to known AAS using guys.

But as I said before, you never can tell. There are AAS users who are small, and natural guys who are big. So I believe it's possible to build an impressive natural physique on the level of some of the guys in the above thread, but as far as telling who actually does? If someone really doesn't want you to know what they use, you won't.

Good post. But dont natural feds test the competitors? How come they dont get caught?

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Optimass, how tall are you?

6'3 .. wish I was a hobbit like soundsgood :grin: - my legs would be a lot thicker :lol::P

Lol, my whole life I wanted to be taller. Would have been happy at 6'. But now I reckon 5'8"ish is absolutely ideal for bodybuilding. Definately helps make your quads look bigger :grin:

On another note I reckon I have shrunk an inch over the past 5 years. Consistently measured in at 5'9+ through highschool and uni. Must have been those heavy squats :huh:

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I have no intention of ever using steroids and would like to know what can be realistically achieved?

The best answer to this question is to forget you ever asked it.

The mindset that leads you to ask about limitations is the wrong way to think about your training and your goals.

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Optimass, how tall are you?

6'3 .. wish I was a hobbit like soundsgood :grin: - my legs would be a lot thicker :lol::P

Lol, my whole life I wanted to be taller. Would have been happy at 6'. But now I reckon 5'8"ish is absolutely ideal for bodybuilding. Definately helps make your quads look bigger :grin:

On another note I reckon I have shrunk an inch over the past 5 years. Consistently measured in at 5'9+ through highschool and uni. Must have been those heavy squats :huh:

im the same height as you SOUNDS GOOD , and yes i have read heavy squats take a little of your height away over a long period of time!

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I have no intention of ever using steroids and would like to know what can be realistically achieved?

The best answer to this question is to forget you ever asked it.

The mindset that leads you to ask about limitations is the wrong way to think about your training and your goals.

I agree with this.

Mate you will never be happy if you think of juicers as the benchmark and constantly compare yourself with them.

You can achieve a stand-out physique (not freaky) naturally and have fun getting strong in the process. That's what gets me in the gym. Trying to put another plate on my Squat.

If that isn't enough then maybe you should reassess your opinion on steroids.

Good topic.

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Bro its going to depend on your genetics. Most guys will not be huge but can attain a good size frame that still looks big to the average joe. Some people put it on easy , while some have to eat 10 x the food to achieve the same size. Remember a lot of guys who say they are natural arent at all and a heck of a lot who say theyve gained this much have been grossly underweight when they start in the first place ( like i was ). Hence the reason i got into it.

Just train hard, eat heaps , dont get to caught up in the steroid buzz until you have a decent base . Same with supplements. Stick to protein only and save your money.

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i bulked up from 70kg to 105kg all natural in 12 months without even lifting a weight. WOW! it wasnt easy i had to smoke a lot of pot and eat a lot of mcds.

on a more serious note is it possible for guys to get swole on gear then go natural and dominate natural bodybuilding comps?

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i bulked up from 70kg to 105kg all natural in 12 months without even lifting a weight. WOW! it wasnt easy i had to smoke a lot of pot and eat a lot of mcds.

on a more serious note is it possible for guys to get swole on gear then go natural and dominate natural bodybuilding comps?

Hahahahaha!

Yeah, I was wondering about that too. Say you reach your natural limit, so you take some roids, put on 10kgs. How much of the 10kgs would you keep?

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Re: How big can you get without steroids?

Posted by tomleegolf on Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:00 am

bang_bang wrote:

i bulked up from 70kg to 105kg all natural in 12 months without even lifting a weight. WOW! it wasnt easy i had to smoke a lot of pot and eat a lot of mcds.

on a more serious note is it possible for guys to get swole on gear then go natural and dominate natural bodybuilding comps?

Hahahahaha!

:clap: :naughty: u ll still noe deep within your self your not natural ....so whats the point ? fooling your self :P .... I think looking into roids after reaching your true genetic potential is probally the best way to go...you can be big from where you started ..being natural till you reach your max potential gives you a good gauge of your genetic limit (also sense of achievement)... if your below 25 your test levels will be high anyway...

Just to give you an heads up on what you could achieve being natural and 3 herniated disk..i just follow these guys on youtube

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