What is harder to compete in bbing or plfting?

[thatwaslight]

What do you guys reckon, level of dedication, time money ect.

Hope to break up a few friendships with this one so don't hold back (half srs)

[HarryB]

Probably be more appropriate to ask which one is harder to be successful in maybe?

[Shutupandsquat]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them). PLers have to spend their money on suits etc. whereas bodybuilders will buy straps and probably knee wraps and maybe a belt.

The mind set is different as well, bodybuilders are more in the mindset of one more rep whereas PLers an in the mindset of LIFT THIS SHIT! (not saying that BBers aren't in that mindset and visa versa, saying it's more that way). I'm not an expert on this shit but you could actually ask the same question comparing PLing to boxing and other sports.

So I really think that they're equal so I haven't exactly answered the question of which is harder.

[lemon]

I haven't competed in bodybuilding but I have done a couple novice powerlifting comps.

I personally think powerlifting is easier in the way that you dont HAVE to buy all this equipment and its just a couple sets of 1 reps.

whereas from what ive heard with bodybuilding you go out a few times, couple shows usually and its a constant squeeze, even when they say relax your still tensed hard, cramping a lot.

As well as you need to learn a routine, practice the muscle posing.

Powerlifting you've already practiced lifting weights.

summary being bbing requires more in the actual event.

If you talking about preparing for it, I would say bodybuilding would take more dedication and focus prior to comp

[trainlikeafreak]

bodybuilding.

[Dr Squat]

Probably be more appropriate to ask which one is harder to be successful in maybe?

Both are very unique. I think at the very top end, both are equally difficult to excel in. Sure you can throw in the old argument that a powerlifting competition does not require as much preparation. But if you are going to do yourself justice then you need to spend significant time preparing. To counter this I would say that there are plenty of people I have seen up on a bodybuilding stage who have done little more than a 12 week challenge. :wink:

[BarBrother]

Being a powerlifter.....

I would say Bodybuilding....

Just because it is a big psychological step to actually get on stage...

Yeah some guys look like shit but still mentally a big step. :shock:

Very easy to get into Novice PL comps etc.. with no barrier.

As Doc says in regards to actually being competitive... both relativley equal.

Although I will say though. The eating side of Bodybuilding does sepereate the men from the boys. People seem to have an emotional attachment of food. it is relativley easy to commit to training an hour a day for 6 days per week. It is alot harder to commit to eating 24 hours a day 7 days per week

Although i will say training strength (specific strength) takes a lot more brains than hypertrophy. But that is another argument al together :pfft:

[Riccardo]

In terms of sacrifice: I dunno how prevalent drug use is at the higher levels of powerlifting and what dosages etc but I would say bodybuilding requires more dedication in respect to what you do to your body to become anywhere near the elite level. Complications from drug use, side effects etc are all huge sacrifices made to be the best. The intensity of mind and mental focus needed over a long competition prep is probably greater for bodybuilders too.

Physical toughness in dealing with copious injuries, fryed nervous system, cuts, fatigue, broken bones and the pure stress on the body from lifting so heavy probably weighs in favour of powerlifting I reckon.

[Android]

I reckon bodybuilding takes 24/7 commitment to be competitive and I'd say more dimensional than a strength contest :nod: oh yeah I said it

There's always the opportunity to turn up unprepared and out of shape as pointed out, similar to someone turning up to a PL comp and pressing 20kg I suppose?

Good question btw

[thatwaslight]

i spose you have to watch your drug and food intake a hell of alot more being a bodybuilder? and the mental side of dieting esp if you compete several times a year..

[tomsammce]

Bodybuilders are fucked in the head and most are fuckwits.... Powerlifters are good cunts.

[AgentOrange]

Bodybuilders are fucked in the head and most are fuckwits.... Powerlifters are good cunts.

U mad?

[tomsammce]

Bodybuilders are fucked in the head and most are fuckwits.... Powerlifters are good cunts.

U mad?

I aint even mad.

[AgentOrange]

Bodybuilders are fucked in the head and most are fuckwits.... Powerlifters are good cunts.

U mad?

I aint even mad.

Jelly?

[tomsammce]

U mad?

I aint even mad.

Jelly?

I aint even jelly.

[tomsammce]

na jks sorry guys! i reckon they both totally different so there is no harder one... genetics play a huge part in determining which one you are most suited at for most of us id say so each would be harder for different people.

take big john for example it would be harder for him to accel in bodybuilding compared to powerlifting but somone like rakish itd be harder for him to accel in powerlifting over bodybuilding.

[Dr Squat]

i spose you have to watch your drug and food intake a hell of alot more being a bodybuilder? and the mental side of dieting esp if you compete several times a year..

The drug issue is interesting. Bodybuilders in NZ currently don't have to worry about testing. Whereas powerlifting is subject to testing. Read into that what you like.

I have a huge respect for bodybuilders in terms of mental discipline with dieting. The reality is that most seem to keep on track. The prospect of parading on stage probably motivates them.

Powerlifting is mentally challenging sport. Until you have pushed yourself to the absolute limit on your 3rd squat attempt you won't be able to understand this. It's not like aiming for a set of 10 on cable crossovers and missing the last rep. :wink:

This might stir a few up but it seems to me that the "outcome" in bodybuilding is largely determined before the big day. Sure you have to get on stage and face off with other competitors on the day but your presentation is the result of your efforts that have occurred over many weeks and maybe months. Powerlifters prepare over a long period of time also but they have to get it right technically on the day or they fail. There is nothing more devastating than "bombing" and wasting all of that preparation.

[thatwaslight]

i spose you have to watch your drug and food intake a hell of alot more being a bodybuilder? and the mental side of dieting esp if you compete several times a year..

The drug issue is interesting. Bodybuilders in NZ currently don't have to worry about testing. Whereas powerlifting is subject to testing. Read into that what you like.

I have a huge respect for bodybuilders in terms of mental discipline with dieting. The reality is that most seem to keep on track. The prospect of parading on stage probably motivates them.

Powerlifting is mentally challenging sport. Until you have pushed yourself to the absolute limit on your 3rd squat attempt you won't be able to understand this. It's not like aiming for a set of 10 on cable crossovers and missing the last rep. :wink:

This might stir a few up but it seems to me that the "outcome" in bodybuilding is largely determined before the big day. Sure you have to get on stage and face off with other competitors on the day but your presentation is the result of your efforts that have occurred over many weeks and maybe months. Powerlifters prepare over a long period of time also but they have to get it right technically on the day or they fail. There is nothing more devastating than "bombing" and wasting all of that preparation.

Agree with you there bro, and i don't think you can call bodybuilding a sport anyway.

[Dr Squat]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them).

What's the ideal powerlifting physique bro?

[Shutupandsquat]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them).

What's the ideal powerlifting physique bro?

I think it's more beneficial for peoples health when they aren't fat as hell (basic knowledge). I know they don't do as many reps as BBers but they just seem to have a lot of weight that really just doesn't even need to be there. You may disagree, this is just my opinion and my perception.

[thatwaslight]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them).

What's the ideal powerlifting physique bro?

I think it's more beneficial for peoples health when they aren't fat as hell (basic knowledge). I know they don't do as many reps as BBers but they just seem to have a lot of weight that really just doesn't even need to be there. You may disagree, this is just my opinion and my perception.

I don't think your in the position to comment bro, if you look at all the top powerlifters they aren't exactly lean and it seems there is deliberate reason for this. not that im an expert

[tomsammce]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them).

What's the ideal powerlifting physique bro?

I think it's more beneficial for peoples health when they aren't fat as hell (basic knowledge). I know they don't do as many reps as BBers but they just seem to have a lot of weight that really just doesn't even need to be there. You may disagree, this is just my opinion and my perception.

just cause you lean doesnt make you healthy bro.. i know a couple of very lean guys who are competing soon and one of them pissed blood the other day, a couple years ago i was bigger and leaner than i am now prob looked healthier to you, had real high blood pressure. you can have 16-20% bodyfat, be male and be very healthy... looking healthy isnt healthy.

[Dr Squat]

In my opinion, they're both equal. I think PLers eat an unnecessary amount (not the ones that actually have definition) which is why they're fat, but bodybuilders also eat a shit load and also eat an unnecessary amount too (not all of them).

What's the ideal powerlifting physique bro?

I think it's more beneficial for peoples health when they aren't fat as hell (basic knowledge). I know they don't do as many reps as BBers but they just seem to have a lot of weight that really just doesn't even need to be there. You may disagree, this is just my opinion and my perception.

Your opinion is fine bro. Even if it is a tad general. I'm just easily confused and you have confused me. Are you worried about their health? Or are you saying that they would be able to lift more weight if they were not as fat? Bear in mind that the objective for a powerlifter is to lift as much weight as possible.

[Shutupandsquat]

Mainly just concerned about their health. Yeah, I'm aware not everyone in the world that's lean is going to be healthy, but in general they are, because you could probably name another 50 lean people who you know that are healthy.

I know that's their goal and it probably lessons their range of motion, but there are a lot of big guys who are still quite lean and have no issues winning competitions.

I know I'm not a powerlifter so I can't exactly relate to it and like TWL said, I'm not exactly in the position to say anything, but I'm just trying to contribute other elements into the discussion to get different views.

[thatwaslight]

In the powerlifting unltd movie they claim scott mendelson is 11% LOL