Should I Cycle?

[severe]

It's like having unprotected sex. Everyone knows the risks, but what the hell, it won't happen to us, right?

AAS when used wisely can be fine, but none of us can know what domino effect they may start within our own bodies. None of us are the same...

We all hit the mushrooms hard nearly 2 decades ago, and we all took the same amount. But, one of us was an undiagnosed epileptic and she got fucked up hard due to the increased brain excitement and visual cortex stimulation.

No one saw that coming. She certainly didn't.

I am neither for nor against you doing it, as you only screw yourself up. To say 'don't do it' would be hypocritical, after all. But like tattoos, you get one and no more, or you keep going.

If you have a good first cycle, you will keep going.

You won't gain 20kg off a single cycle, unless you live off donuts and fanta. I loved being full of bulk, hell yes. but much prefer my leaner frame right now. maybe 10-12kg lighter, but am Faster, more agile and it is easier to maintain. I use aas to enhance recovery as my main focus. The power is a bonus.

The internet is full of stock standard regimes for aas dosing and lengths, but it will always be trial and error for each individual.

Don't be so naive to believe you have it all covered. I did 'everything right' and lost over an inch of my hairline in under 2 years. But, hair is over rated anyways...

To each their own.

[Jonny_R]

I understand what you're saying bro.

I've thought about all potential risks/side effects etc.

This hasn't been a quick decision for me to make.

I will be doing this cycle with safe dosages and proper PCT.

I know what risks are involved if these drugs are abused.

I've figured the main concern for me is going to be acne.

I'm doing this thing properly, so there shouldn't be any concern about permanent damage.

Allgood mate,

Their seems to be far too many young guys jumping on the stuff without fully understanding what their doing to their body's. But you have obviously done your research and understand the true risks so good on ya!

All the best.

[thatwaslight]

Hey Mate,

I don't post up often but when I see a thread like this I feel I have to speak up.

Like you I'm quite young and was looking at my first cycle earlier this year, but decided it wasn't the right path for me just yet.

But I think you've got to look at the very serious side effects that steroids can have on your health long term...

You've really got to ask yourself the question: Is being big all you really want in life? Do you like the fact that you kidneys and liver work well now? And then you go put them on strain and could end up on dialysis later in life? Have you considered that when you come off cycle the depression involved with low levels of test, lost size, lost strength, lost that mental edge you get when your using, then feel small when you come off. Or even a fuked sex drive when your shit don't stand? Some people never come right and have to live the rest of their lives on hormone therapy. These are only some of the side effects I've seen in my friends that use. I've even had some mates who cry too me bout that shit. Before you start using look at the big picture just for now.

I hope this helps you make the decision and hope I haven't scared you, I'm just trying to help you make a more informative decision I guess.

All the best for you training dude and good luck!

Lol talk it up, not saying you should do gear but your making it out to be far worse than it is.

i know several people that use and the worst adverse side effect iv'e seen is gyno...

[holdenman]

Hey Mate,

I don't post up often but when I see a thread like this I feel I have to speak up.

Like you I'm quite young and was looking at my first cycle earlier this year, but decided it wasn't the right path for me just yet.

But I think you've got to look at the very serious side effects that steroids can have on your health long term...

You've really got to ask yourself the question: Is being big all you really want in life? Do you like the fact that you kidneys and liver work well now? And then you go put them on strain and could end up on dialysis later in life? Have you considered that when you come off cycle the depression involved with low levels of test, lost size, lost strength, lost that mental edge you get when your using, then feel small when you come off. Or even a fuked sex drive when your shit don't stand? Some people never come right and have to live the rest of their lives on hormone therapy. These are only some of the side effects I've seen in my friends that use. I've even had some mates who cry too me bout that shit. Before you start using look at the big picture just for now.

I hope this helps you make the decision and hope I haven't scared you, I'm just trying to help you make a more informative decision I guess.

All the best for you training dude and good luck!

Lol talk it up, not saying you should do gear but your making it out to be far worse than it is.

i know several people that use and the worst adverse side effect iv'e seen is gyno...

Every single person I know who has taken steroids has turned into a pre pubescent girl with depression, fucked kidneys and a fucked liver, that's what they do.

[thatwaslight]

most of my mates died after there first cycle.

[holdenman]

One of mine died planning his first.

[thatwaslight]

One of mine died planning his first.

anaphylactic shock? very common for people to either die from this on first shot or test flu

[tomsammce]

Hey Mate,

I don't post up often but when I see a thread like this I feel I have to speak up.

Like you I'm quite young and was looking at my first cycle earlier this year, but decided it wasn't the right path for me just yet.

But I think you've got to look at the very serious side effects that steroids can have on your health long term...

You've really got to ask yourself the question: Is being big all you really want in life? Do you like the fact that you kidneys and liver work well now? And then you go put them on strain and could end up on dialysis later in life? Have you considered that when you come off cycle the depression involved with low levels of test, lost size, lost strength, lost that mental edge you get when your using, then feel small when you come off. Or even a fuked sex drive when your shit don't stand? Some people never come right and have to live the rest of their lives on hormone therapy. These are only some of the side effects I've seen in my friends that use. I've even had some mates who cry too me bout that shit. Before you start using look at the big picture just for now.

I hope this helps you make the decision and hope I haven't scared you, I'm just trying to help you make a more informative decision I guess.

All the best for you training dude and good luck!

Hey Jehovah Jireh, U jelly brah?

you dont know shit... keep talking... you dont even use, so how can you know how bad they are or what they even do or what it feels like? do you even lift? srs..

[pyro]

Thinking about doing my first cycle, but im starting to get pains in my kidneys and my nipples are itchy, should I stop now or can I take something else for this.

[tomsammce]

Thinking about doing my first cycle, but im starting to get pains in my kidneys and my nipples are itchy, should I stop now or can I take something else for this.

"should I stop now"? stop what now? you just said you havnt even started, that you thinking about it.

[AgentOrange]

Thinking about doing my first cycle, but im starting to get pains in my kidneys and my nipples are itchy, should I stop now or can I take something else for this.

"should I stop now"? stop what now? you just said you havnt even started, that you thinking about it.

You a bit slow tonight bro? Lol

[pyro]

Thinking about doing my first cycle, but im starting to get pains in my kidneys and my nipples are itchy, should I stop now or can I take something else for this.

"should I stop now"? stop what now? you just said you havnt even started, that you thinking about it.

You a bit slow tonight bro? Lol

lol obviously just a little.

[tomsammce]

Thinking about doing my first cycle, but im starting to get pains in my kidneys and my nipples are itchy, should I stop now or can I take something else for this.

"should I stop now"? stop what now? you just said you havnt even started, that you thinking about it.

You a bit slow tonight bro? Lol

wut? me? its morning... u mad brah?

[Specter]

Hey Mate,

I don't post up often but when I see a thread like this I feel I have to speak up.

Like you I'm quite young and was looking at my first cycle earlier this year, but decided it wasn't the right path for me just yet.

But I think you've got to look at the very serious side effects that steroids can have on your health long term...

You've really got to ask yourself the question: Is being big all you really want in life? Do you like the fact that you kidneys and liver work well now? And then you go put them on strain and could end up on dialysis later in life? Have you considered that when you come off cycle the depression involved with low levels of test, lost size, lost strength, lost that mental edge you get when your using, then feel small when you come off. Or even a fuked sex drive when your shit don't stand? Some people never come right and have to live the rest of their lives on hormone therapy. These are only some of the side effects I've seen in my friends that use. I've even had some mates who cry too me bout that shit. Before you start using look at the big picture just for now.

I hope this helps you make the decision and hope I haven't scared you, I'm just trying to help you make a more informative decision I guess.

All the best for you training dude and good luck!

Lol talk it up, not saying you should do gear but your making it out to be far worse than it is.

i know several people that use and the worst adverse side effect iv'e seen is gyno...

Every single person I know who has taken steroids has turned into a pre pubescent girl with depression, fucked kidneys and a fucked liver, that's what they do.

Steroids f*ck people up and scare other f*ck heads to preach their shit on here about the bad sides of using gear...

[severe]

There are negatives.

There are positives.

What is your real issue Specter? I am confused at your grammar.

That people use forums to offload there opinions and share their lives? No shit.

Holdenman, wow, really? How many people is that?

I feel fantastic.

I have had some downer moments, but that sounds like life to me.

[langerrox]

It all these arm chair experts that f*ck me off, never seen a steroid in their life yet their willing to rant and rave about the effects on the human body, You cant prove cause and effect. All these people getting heart attacks and liver damage are abusing steroids, there's a difference between steroid "use" and "abuse". Any idiot should know if they take 5000mg of steroids a week there probably gonna get side effects dumb fucks.

[severe]

The internet is full of shit at the best of times. It is only when people follow what they want to hear, that problems start.

Plenty of people highlight the risks, but guys like the thread starter aren't interested. They want approval, and will accept any post that supports it.

Regardless of the informations worth, the end user will do what they want anyway. One way or another.

[dannyjay]

The positives outweigh the negatives in my opinion bro.

I know all the risks of using/misusing these drugs.

If there were people in this thread who said a definite 'No,too young' then I'd probably hold off.

But all the opinions are mixed, and it makes sense to me to cycle now and get the most of out my training.

[thatwaslight]

[severe]

TWL. Too funny brah!

[tikalosh]

Hey guys,

I'm 6'2" 225lbs

20 years old

Been bulking recently and gained around 11kg natural. The gains have been pretty clean, but obv a bit of fat gain there too etc

I'm planning on starting to bulk again in a few weeks and wanted to ask, would you guys recommend a steroid cycle?

I don't feel like I need gear, but I want the best results possible for my next bulk.

I was thinking 10 weeks of test e + dbol 4 weeks

What do you fella's think? =P~

I started using at 22yo, after training natty for 6 years. Was 103kg at 6'2" at around 15-16%bf at heaviest naturally so gained around 25kg naturally before i decided to use AAS. I would prolly say get ur bodyfat as low as possible before ur first cycle and then bulk hard on cycle, i was eating around 5500cals average towards end of cycle, ended up gaining 15kg from 500mg test e/week in 12 weeks but bf was fairly high and had to cut down heaps after.

AAS best thing I ever did and prolly will b on and off it for as long as I'm in the gym, which i hope will b a while still. I thought i was too young when i started, i have no regrets yet, but i reckon u shuld train at least 5 years natty before considering it, so i wish i started traning earlier so i coulda used it earlier :grin: . Just follow advice on here and use it wisely and do ur research otherwise go hard

[dannyjay]

Cheers bro.

btw I've been training since I was 16. In total I've gained about 35kg in the last couple years natural. I'm sittin at about 10% bf. That's good enough for me.

This upcoming bulk I want as much size as possible (dont we all? :wink: ) So in my mind it's worthwhile going on a cycle to make sure I get the most out training.

[tikalosh]

Cheers bro.

btw I've been training since I was 16. In total I've gained about 35kg in the last couple years natural. I'm sittin at about 10% bf. That's good enough for me.

This upcoming bulk I want as much size as possible (dont we all? :wink: ) So in my mind it's worthwhile going on a cycle to make sure I get the most out training.

in this case do it, u wont look back

[WANABJAKD]

It all these arm chair experts that f*ck me off, never seen a steroid in their life yet their willing to rant and rave about the effects on the human body, You cant prove cause and effect. All these people getting heart attacks and liver damage are abusing steroids, there's a difference between steroid "use" and "abuse". Any idiot should know if they take 5000mg of steroids a week there probably gonna get side effects dumb fucks.

its the arm chair experts, like doctors for example, who are saving your life. no matter what responsible drug choices you make, there is a word out there called 'inevitability' - that means there are consequences with steroid use. let me give you an example:

ever heard of artery calcification? well when you use steroids, your body retains more calcium, and to avoid toxic levels the human body regulates vitamin d. unfortunately, bodybuilders think too much of everything is just great, so they supplement vitamin d and tan in excess. thats not good news for your heart or kidneys :pfft:

[Specter]

There are negatives.

There are positives.

What is your real issue Specter? I am confused at your grammar.

That people use forums to offload there opinions and share their lives? No shit.

Holdenman, wow, really? How many people is that?

I feel fantastic.

I have had some downer moments, but that sounds like life to me.

Confused at what? There is Preaching and their is offloading your opinions...the dude wants simple advice...not a lecture and 1000 word essay...