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Why wouldnt you would be the question?

What ratio are you looking at?

ok well for the most part, i feel shorter esters are better for one single reason: the hormones are in and out of your system faster.

the only negatives to shorter esters e.g trenbolone, is that you need to pin every day - thats more of an annoyance, at least in terms of time consumption. one thing i cant stand is having a bad inject in an obscure muscle(as you have to pin more smaller muscles e.g tris to avoid scar tissue build up) that results in missing or compromising(sometimes consecutive) workouts.

i gotta be honest, ive had enough of pinning everyday - after all this time. just today i pinned my ass. got setup and what do you know? i felt a little bump. i thought to myself "nerve?" i pulled out a bit - just short off the end of the head and pumped that shit in like a champ. after the deed was done, i pulled out, had blood oozing down my cheek, then my chest and throat tightened up - luckily no tren cough. at that point i threw the pin at the back of bathroom door and said "go f*ck yourself." thats how bad it is :lol:

i was considering maybe 750mg Test E and 500mg Tren E.

What advice do you want?

mainly on getting started - i dont want to use orals(anymore). i was considering front loading. what do you guys think about that? theoretically, it should make no difference whether i pump test p with with test e or if i take advantage of the ester and pump more to get my levels up fast, right?

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Pinning everyday gets pretty shit fast ah im not hardcore enough for that lol

stuff frontloading just pin twice a week it will kick in soon enough you love your tren ever thought about taking something different with the test? be a good change

i wanna get jakd now, not tomorrow or a few weeks later 8) but seriously, whats wrong with front loading? does anyone here do it?

something else you say? well i tried npp in this cycle and i cant really say ive noticed much - thats probably because im running tren - you knew that was coming :pfft: but seriously, of the select number of things ive tried, test and tren have not only been the most effective, but the most effective per mg. i dont really like the idea of running higher doses of weaker androgens to get a noticeable effect.

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I wouldn't front load...don't think the body would enjoy 1g of tren very much, I notice tren e within 2 weeks anyway so I don't think you would need to. I find I can run comfortably more ace than tren e, 400mg tren e was kick in the teeth whereas 525 ace I'm calmer, urine isn't as dark and I just feel better for it. I agree that pinning Ed gets tiring but I love it for the fact that I can take 100mg preworkout out and notice the difference.

And I agree there is nothing else like tren, bang for buck it's the best without a doubt. I love deca but I don't love waiting 8 weeks to look like the michilean man. Ive just stepped up my cals dramatically eating like Jerry brownly and I still have abs! And weight gained is muscle gained that is kept post cycle.

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I wouldn't front load...don't think the body would enjoy 1g of tren very much, I notice tren e within 2 weeks anyway so I don't think you would need to. I find I can run comfortably more ace than tren e, 400mg tren e was kick in the teeth whereas 525 ace I'm calmer, urine isn't as dark and I just feel better for it. I agree that pinning Ed gets tiring but I love it for the fact that I can take 100mg preworkout out and notice the difference.

And I agree there is nothing else like tren, bang for buck it's the best without a doubt. I love deca but I don't love waiting 8 weeks to look like the michilean man. Ive just stepped up my cals dramatically eating like Jerry brownly and I still have abs! And weight gained is muscle gained that is kept post cycle.

posy cycle lol

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I wouldn't front load...don't think the body would enjoy 1g of tren very much, I notice tren e within 2 weeks anyway so I don't think you would need to. I find I can run comfortably more ace than tren e, 400mg tren e was kick in the teeth whereas 525 ace I'm calmer, urine isn't as dark and I just feel better for it. I agree that pinning Ed gets tiring but I love it for the fact that I can take 100mg preworkout out and notice the difference.

And I agree there is nothing else like tren, bang for buck it's the best without a doubt. I love deca but I don't love waiting 8 weeks to look like the michilean man. Ive just stepped up my cals dramatically eating like Jerry brownly and I still have abs! And weight gained is muscle gained that is kept post cycle.

posy cycle lol

post cycle meaning when you move from tren to deca LOL :pfft: :pfft:

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I wouldn't front load...don't think the body would enjoy 1g of tren very much, I notice tren e within 2 weeks anyway so I don't think you would need to. I find I can run comfortably more ace than tren e, 400mg tren e was kick in the teeth whereas 525 ace I'm calmer, urine isn't as dark and I just feel better for it. I agree that pinning Ed gets tiring but I love it for the fact that I can take 100mg preworkout out and notice the difference.

And I agree there is nothing else like tren, bang for buck it's the best without a doubt. I love deca but I don't love waiting 8 weeks to look like the michilean man. Ive just stepped up my cals dramatically eating like Jerry brownly and I still have abs! And weight gained is muscle gained that is kept post cycle.

when i finish work ill have to put the numbers through a calculator and see what the blood levels would be like frontloading comparative to the normal peak concentrations. i personally dont see anything wrong with front loading. my logic is that the body only knows your injecting oil - that is until it metabolises the ester and releases the hormone.

i know how you feel. i was eating 5500-6000 cals and did no cardio in order to hit 90kgs - that was good condition too. now im cutting back a few kilos before i end this cycle; ive had enough, at least for now. like train hard, i too have decided to slow things down(bodybuilding-wise) after re-elavuating my priorities.

welcome back WANABJAKD 8)

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thanks J :)

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Your slowing things down so your going to run 500mg of tren? lol tren isn't fizzy drink mate if your on tren you should be stepping everything up

i think i have you confused lol. i have alot going on right now and thats why im ending my current cycle early. i want to have a long break before beginning my next cycle. that will give me enough time to move into my place and find a new gym as well.

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TWL, what doses were you running when you were using tren-e? from what ive read, alot of people run a comfortable 400mg and say upwards of "600mg is pushing it." so its much stronger? you think thats because of the build up in levels due to the longer ester?

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TWL, what doses were you running when you were using tren-e? from what ive read, alot of people run a comfortable 400mg and say upwards of "600mg is pushing it." so its much stronger? you think thats because of the build up in levels due to the longer ester?

400mg which is plenty imo, urine very discolored, irritability, exhaustion and sweats (mainly while working out) only got night sweats once a week or less and the always fun breathlessness :D

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