Venice beach..... behind the scenes

[olympia]

I dont think they were born gay. Sounds like they got sucked into it.

:pfft:

[Grover]

well blow me i didn't think of that!

:pfft:

[nzmusclemonster]

As long as kevin isn't involved he's my hero of the 90's lol what about the pros of today??

Ronnie Rockel and Marcus Ruhl are known to do certain things both with each other and other men. They just pass it off as them being european and just the done thing over there.

Another high profile person is Bob Cicherrillo. He had a contact in vegas... a well known gay man who would get him clients and he would meet them at what is now a well known room in the gay community at the mirage hotel. Bob drew the line at doing things that were homosexual acts, but he would do underwear wrestling, schmoe squatting and the like.

[vracula]

this thread is making me homophobic! :shock:

[olympia]

Do you have any storys involving the bikini models? Maybee involving 2 or 3 of them together on a bed or in a spa? :pray:

[HumanPerformance]

Take away the gay action and whole story sounds like a typical saturday night at CKK :pfft:

[nzmusclemonster]

Comparing apples and oranges, Sponsorship over in the states actually means decent money unlike here in NZ and what our Pros get for sponsorship. Plus the extras from photo-shoots, appearance fees etc.

In no way is Levi Vaoga on the same level but he has done really well in promoting himself and is one of the most well known names from the Strongman community even if he hasn't achieved anything in the sport for a long time. Something which our Pro's seem to lack and something which the Americans are great at.

Throw some numbers at me. For top ten guys they may have decent sponsorship deals. But what about the guys on the fringe? Is some supplement company going to pay them $60,000 a year to appear in a couple of ads in a bodybuilding magazine. Hate to break it to you, but $500 a month and a few free tubs of protein powder is probably the best they would get.

And these "photoshoots" you speak of? You'll probably find them doing photoshoots, but not for muscle and fitness. Ask Tom Prince, Johnny Jackson, Kai Green, Mark Dugdale etc etc about this....

[pyro]

I'm not saying it doesnt happen, but you are in the exact mind set that I was talking about here in NZ, with that im not just talking about NZ body building im talking NZ sports in general we are extremely poor at promoting ourselves. You seem to think the only type of sponsorship / advertising can come from supplement companies.

How many guys in NZ from BB strongman PL have achieved so much more than Levi, yet how many of them are known to the general public?

[Bobsta]

If it wasnt for the mitre 10 adds and his assosiation with them, I dont think the general public would have known much about Levi

[thatwaslight]

If it wasnt for the mitre 10 adds and his assosiation with them, I dont think the general public would have known much about Levi

Bet me to it, I couldn't name any other nz strongmen...apart from Dale sheppard but that's for the wrong reasons...

[pyro]

Kind of my point, he has managed to promote himself to a small extent, get his name out there and make some money of it. The potential for some NZ pros is a lot more than people think, its just a matter of getting someone who knows the business(im not talking BB) to help them out.

[tomsammce]

maybe they dont want to be known and dont need to be, perhaps they have more sucess than NZ publicity could ever get them.

[pyro]

maybe they dont want to be known and dont need to be, perhaps they have more sucess than NZ publicity could ever get them.

Not saying everyone wants to be put out there, but im sure there would be a few pro's who wouldn't mind some more money from doing little else than being a face and maybe some appearances.

[tomsammce]

maybe they dont want to be known and dont need to be, perhaps they have more sucess than NZ publicity could ever get them.

Not saying everyone wants to be put out there, but im sure there would be a few pro's who wouldn't mind some more money from doing little else than being a face and maybe some appearances.

bro there is olymipic athletes in nz and world champions in sports with much higher participation numbers than any of these strength sports in nz and people dont know who they are, alot of that is people dont care. i dont think there is much to be gained by any marketer from these guys being used as guest appearances and faces for things. people have to know who they are by what they have acheived first and their acheivements are pretty minute in the bigger scheme of things

[pyro]

maybe they dont want to be known and dont need to be, perhaps they have more sucess than NZ publicity could ever get them.

Not saying everyone wants to be put out there, but im sure there would be a few pro's who wouldn't mind some more money from doing little else than being a face and maybe some appearances.

bro there is olymipic athletes in nz and world champions in sports with much higher participation numbers than any of these strength sports in nz and people dont know who they are, alot of that is people dont care. i dont think there is much to be gained by any marketer from these guys being used as guest appearances and faces for things. people have to know who they are by what they have acheived first and their acheivements are pretty minute in the bigger scheme of things

Not really, what did Levi achieve? Very little tbh when it comes to the likes of championships etc. Its not all about titles wins medals and trophies its about how well you can market yourself. Like I said earlier NZ as a whole in sporting really lack the ability to market themselves as a brand, other than the likes of the AB's.

[crazyfacials]

the only reason anyone would suck any of these pro body builders dongs is because that person didn't reach his protein macros for the day and wanted it to fit in his macros

[tomsammce]

Not saying everyone wants to be put out there, but im sure there would be a few pro's who wouldn't mind some more money from doing little else than being a face and maybe some appearances.

bro there is olymipic athletes in nz and world champions in sports with much higher participation numbers than any of these strength sports in nz and people dont know who they are, alot of that is people dont care. i dont think there is much to be gained by any marketer from these guys being used as guest appearances and faces for things. people have to know who they are by what they have acheived first and their acheivements are pretty minute in the bigger scheme of things

Not really, what did Levi achieve? Very little tbh when it comes to the likes of championships etc. Its not all about titles wins medals and trophies its about how well you can market yourself. Like I said earlier NZ as a whole in sporting really lack the ability to market themselves as a brand, other than the likes of the AB's.

his marketing is lies. he hasnt acheived what everyone is being told he has or beleives he has. has he even got into the actual WSM circut or just the qualifing rounds? he hasnt been NZSM in how many years.

people say, "oh wow, mr mitre 10 mega nz strongest man!" or "hes one of the worlds strongest men" its bullshit! and it pisses me off!

take those "achievements" away from him and what you can find 5 guys in 55 minutes just like him in sth auckland.... hes only a good marketing tool for his achievements which arent even currently his nor have they been for a long time if ever?

[pyro]

bro there is olymipic athletes in nz and world champions in sports with much higher participation numbers than any of these strength sports in nz and people dont know who they are, alot of that is people dont care. i dont think there is much to be gained by any marketer from these guys being used as guest appearances and faces for things. people have to know who they are by what they have acheived first and their acheivements are pretty minute in the bigger scheme of things

Not really, what did Levi achieve? Very little tbh when it comes to the likes of championships etc. Its not all about titles wins medals and trophies its about how well you can market yourself. Like I said earlier NZ as a whole in sporting really lack the ability to market themselves as a brand, other than the likes of the AB's.

his marketing is lies. he hasnt acheived what everyone is being told he has or beleives he has.

LOL and yet he is making money of it because he has marketed himself well. Shows my point of not actually having to have a lot of titles championships to get yourself out there. I only used Levi as an example since it relates to this board, hes not a great example thats for sure.

You just proved my point tom with your edit, like I said he hasnt really achieved much at all, but he has marketed himself well and thats why his name is out there and the general public knows him so well. Its how money is made.

[I Declare War]

nzmm! you've spent too much time on getbig! storing all these nasty stories in your head! hahaha

[scrambledeggs]

thats my usual saturday night...

[nzbodybuilder]

Haha, that story was so funny! What a load of shit some people can come up with. Just like when reading a news story: "A close personal friend/source who does not want to be named, said....". I never believe those stories. And the internet is GREAT for bullshit!

I don't doubt that stuff like this COULD happen behind the scenes, but personally, I don't see a problem here. What sport doesn't have its dark side? For the negative people, it's none of your business what people get up to in their own private lives.

What do you think the general public think of bodybuilding anyway? Especially of male bodybuilders: bunch of narcissist men who love to watch other men in tiny g-strings who shave their bodies and oil each other up! Eww, yuck!

Who cares if professional male bodybuilders are getting it on with other males? Live and let live! I note that some people, while thinking same sex sex acts are discussing, are more than happy if the same sex is opposite to them.