coming off cycle what a good cycle with clomid

[underbelly]

just want to know a good cycle for when i come off my first 12 week cycle, im running 500ml eanthate very 7 days (250ml on monday and 250ml on a sunday ,and putting on some good muscle 4 weeks in, havnt used clomid before so just wanted other peoples expirence and cycle knowledge

[holdenman]

500ml? Wow! You use a coke bottle as a syringe?

[crazyfacials]

500ml? Wow! You use a coke bottle as a syringe?

rofl

[narcosis73]

just want to know a good cycle for when i come off my first 12 week cycle, im running 500ml eanthate very 7 days and putting on some good muscle 4 weeks in, i havnt got anything yet but want to make sure i get my test level right again , any advice be apreciated

bro did you research your cycle before starting, or did ya just jump on, the reason I ask is A: you have stated running 500ml once a week, dont ya mean 500mg a week B: pinning every 7 days, if you had done your home work you would know about half lifes and that pinning 250mg twice a week say Monday and Thursday would be more Beneficial C: as for putting on some good muscle 4 weeks in, well once again, if you research test-e you will see that the general consciences states that test-e only starts to kick in around week 4, but test does affect every one different i suppose, and last but by no means not least D: dude before you start any cycle you should make sure that you have every thing needed for the entire length of your planed cycle.

theres an old diving saying that can apply in life to just about anything and it goes like this, "PLAN YOUR DIVE AND DIVE YOUR PLAN".

do ya get what I'm saying, plan your cycle and cycle your plan, or just do what it clearly looks as you have done and jump on half cocked. :crazy:

[underbelly]

yeah man should have given more info, i am following the cycle of 250ml on a monday and sunday , so yeah ive done my home work, i just havnt used clomid before and was told its very good, so any info about that would be good please

[justhell]

google it theres heaps of info on the net if you look.

but if your just running test,all you would need is nolva for pct,you can also run clomid if you have it.

i havent tried it myself,i find nolvadex & aromasin perfect for pct.

8)

[narcosis73]

yeah man should have given more info, i am following the cycle of 250ml on a monday and sunday , so yeah ive done my home work, i just havnt used clomid before and was told its very good, so any info about that would be good please

please read, hope this helps.

Daz69 wrote:

maassive wrote:

Daz69 wrote:

Because of the inclusion of 4 differently releasing esters in Sustanon:

testosterone propionate - 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate - 60mg, and testosterone decanoate -100 mg.

And the difference in half lives: Propionate 2.25 days, phenylpropionate 2.25 days, iscaproate 4.5 days, decanoate 7.5 days (dependant on where you read it)....

You are best off pinning every other day because of the two quicker esters... But with less mg/injection....

I'm shite at maths so can't be arsed trying to work out optimum injection amounts & spacings to give steady blood levels on Sustanon...

With Enanthate (5.25 days) I'd pin every 5 days, or Cypionate (6 days) every 6 days, the full 375mg just for ease of working out .............

Don't think you need the Nolvadex with 375mg + Dbol @ 4 weeks...

Titan is all good high bloods have been reported recently with this product..

But Daz, isn't the idea of Sustanon that it is designed so that the half lives complement each other to provide steady release over a period of time. Yes the prop and phenylprop only lasts 2 days, but because this is not all that you are injecting there is no need to have a pin frequency set up to accomodate only these two. Just as the props are wearing off the isocap is coming on strongest, and then as that wears off the deca is releasing at it's peak...

Therefore, two pins per week is perfect for this.

I have never used sustanon so I do offer that as a caveat, however I think from what I have read that pining this EOD is overkill and a misunderstanding of what the drug is designed for.

Zyzz, see this links for more info.

http://www.steroid.com/Sustanon-250.php

Hey Massive...

I've just done the rough (and it is rough) Maths on Sustanon....

Ignoring the weight of the esters, for ease of working out...

Injecting EOD by the 4th injection or day 8 blood levels should be "roughly" 86mg/day.... Pin every 4th day & it goes down to "roughly" 60mg/day..

From what I have been led to believe: All the esters start to release from day 1..... (or after all the receptor shite has been sorted)

So you get the largest dose in the first 2 days from Propionate 7.5mg/day & Phenylpropionate 15mg/day..............

Then Iscaproate 7.5mg/day for the next 4.5 days & Decanoate 6.?mg/day for the next 7.5 days.....

After day 2 Propionate reduces to 3.75mg/day & Phenylpropionate to 7.5mg/day...........

So from my "rough" reconing your bouncing Up & down by 11.25mg/day on the third day, before you pin again....

Whether this makes a huge difference in the scale of things I'm not too sure...

How it works for old cunts pinning once a month I can't work out..?

I've used Sustanon for years before I had any understanding of half-lives & pinned twice a week........

I think its a lot easier mathematically using Enanthate with a half-life of 5.25 days pinning every 5 days, when you're attempting steady blood levels.....

But I could be wrong...

[narcosis73]

just a comment on last post, see what happens when you really do your home work, you can find info on just about anything.

I suggest you look abit harder next time rather than just fishing for info. :roll: