Doping in Elite Sport

[Dr Squat]

Interesting article. Applicable to powerlifters and olympic lifters also. I don't think there is any bodybuilding federation that currently test in NZ.

Stannard has a real crack at the NZAS. Surerly it must come down the individual athlete and taking responsibility. What difference does it make whether they are given the supplements or they sources themselves?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5224835/NZ-sport-heroes-risk-dope-shame

[olympia]

Interesting article. Applicable to powerlifters and olympic lifters also. I don't think there is any bodybuilding federation that currently test in NZ.

Stannard has a real crack at the NZAS. Surerly it must come down the individual athlete and taking responsibility. What difference does it make whether they are given the supplements or they sources themselves?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/5224835/NZ-sport-heroes-risk-dope-shame

Was this the guy that was banned over the use of Superpump and or Jacked?

[pyro]

Yea he blamed it on both products, tbh it looks like he was just looking for any excuse. If you are an athlete competing at a top level claiming ignorance is utter crap, Jack3d even has a label on the packaging saying using this product may return a positive result in certain testing.

[Dr Squat]

The issue here is that Dr Stephen Stannard is targeting the NZAS for its relationship with Integria Healthcare.

I don't know whether Stannard has played any competitive sport but surely he must realise that athletes use supplements to maximise their performance and recovery. It is up to the athletes to take responsibility to ensure they are clean.

[Viking Power]

The issue here is that Dr Stephen Stannard is targeting the NZAS for its relationship with Integria Healthcare.

I don't know whether Stannard has played any competitive sport but surely he must realise that athletes use supplements to maximise their performance and recovery. It is up to the athletes to take responsibility to ensure they are clean.

I do agree with you here Doc, but my knowledge off how Drug free sport NZ works is whatever supplement you take you take it at your own risk and that they highly recommend you get it checked before taking it ... in a seminar I went to involving WADA though a power lifting work shop day they were very staunch on this in saying that they also said send though any supplement name with full ingredient listing so that they can check it to make sure its clean before you take it, and they will send a conformation email clearing it personally I'll save that email

So there should be no reason to fail a test if you have follow the above :wink: just my thoughts anyone want there supplement check the web site is http://www.drugfreesport.org.nz and i think its under the header athlete zone from memory

VP

[Dr Squat]

The issue here is that Dr Stephen Stannard is targeting the NZAS for its relationship with Integria Healthcare.

I don't know whether Stannard has played any competitive sport but surely he must realise that athletes use supplements to maximise their performance and recovery. It is up to the athletes to take responsibility to ensure they are clean.

I do agree with you here Doc, but my knowledge off how Drug free sport NZ works is whatever supplement you take you take it at your own risk and that they highly recommend you get it checked before taking it ... an in a seminar I went to involving WADA though a power lifting work shop day they were very staunch on this in saying that they also said send though any supplement name with full ingredient listing so that they can check it to make sure its clean, and they will send a conformation email clearing it personally I'll save that email

So there should be no reason to fail a test if you have follow the above :wink: just my thoughts anyone want there supplement check the web site is http://www.drugfreesport.org.nz

Good stuff VP.

I would also be worried about cross contamination from other supplements that contain banned substances. The whole issue is a serious one of athletes. Having supplements prescribed is not going to help the cause.

[Viking Power]

The issue here is that Dr Stephen Stannard is targeting the NZAS for its relationship with Integria Healthcare.

I don't know whether Stannard has played any competitive sport but surely he must realise that athletes use supplements to maximise their performance and recovery. It is up to the athletes to take responsibility to ensure they are clean.

I do agree with you here Doc, but my knowledge off how Drug free sport NZ works is whatever supplement you take you take it at your own risk and that they highly recommend you get it checked before taking it ... an in a seminar I went to involving WADA though a power lifting work shop day they were very staunch on this in saying that they also said send though any supplement name with full ingredient listing so that they can check it to make sure its clean, and they will send a conformation email clearing it personally I'll save that email

So there should be no reason to fail a test if you have follow the above :wink: just my thoughts anyone want there supplement check the web site is http://www.drugfreesport.org.nz

Good stuff VP.

I would also be worried about cross contamination from other supplements that contain banned substances. The whole issue is a serious one of athletes. Having supplements prescribed is not going to help the cause.

Yeah I guess that brings up another point mate, but I put that one into the uncontrollables so maybe easier to take nothing? and just rely on good food and plenty off it 8)

[Flex]

I would also be worried about cross contamination from other supplements that contain banned substances.

The ingredient causing the problems here is Methylhexanamine, which is derived from Geranium extract. It has about 50 different chemical names of which supplement manufactures choose to use various names to try and make their product unique.

These are all the same chemical:

• Dimethylpentylamine

• 2-Amino-4-methylhexane

• 2-amino-4-methylhexane hydrochloride

• 4-methyl-2-Hexanamine,

• 1,3-Dimethylamylamine

• 4-Methyl-2-hexylamine

• 1,3-dimethyl-pentylamin

• 1,3-Dimethylpentylamine

• 1,3-Dimethylpentanamine

• Dimethylamylamine (DMAA)

• 1-3-Dimethylamylamine

• Geranium Extract

• Geranamine

• Geranium Oil

• Geranium Maculatum

• Geranium Stem

• Methylhexanamine

• Forthan

• Forthane

• 4-methylhexan-2-amine,

• Fouramin;

• Metexaminum;

• Methexaminum;

• Methylhexamine;

• Methylhexaneamine;

• 4-Methyl-2-hexylamine

• 2-Hexanamine, 4-methyl- (9CI)

• 2-Hexanamine,

• 4-methyl-;Pentylamine,

• 1,3-dimethyl- (6CI,7CI,8CI);

• 4-Methyl-2-hexylamine

• 2-AMINO-4-METHYLHEXANE HYDROCHLORIDE 98%

• Pentylamine, 1,3-dimethyl-

• 2-amino-4-methylhexane hcl

• 4-METHYL-2-AMINO HEXANE