More compounds? or More of less compounds?

[maassive]

I was pondering this question and thought I'd air it out here. Which do you think is a better cycle: A cycle that has multiple compounds (e.g. Test En, Deca, Tren Ace, dbol or some other oral) and all of them at moderate doses ---- or ---- a cycle that has very few compounds but much higher doses (e.g. Test + Deca).

For arguments sake, lets say that both cycles total 1.2gm p/wk.

(I ask this mainly because I've noticed that some of the top end guys seem to be running stacks and stacks of compounds rather than just one or two at massive doses.)

[Pete_S]

Generally 1+1+1=5

although

D-bol+Anadrol+Anavar = kidney transplant

so choose your combination of compounds carefully

[maassive]

Generally 1+1+1=5

although

D-bol+Anadrol+Anavar = kidney transplant

so choose your combination of compounds carefully

LOL :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

Like Pete said extra compounds create synergy. I have experimented and more is better in the case of compounds over dosages imo.

[Anaru84]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

[samoan_muscle]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

[Mrbig]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

I havent heard 4 weeks out I generally see 2-1 week depending on the ester most should be using prop to limit water retention then drop all injectables in the last week and use winny to stay nice and full some use test all the way and dont seem to have problems with water retention guess only one way to find out is to try it

when you competeing next SM??

[samoan_muscle]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

I havent heard 4 weeks out I generally see 2-1 week depending on the ester most should be using prop to limit water retention then drop all injectables in the last week and use winny to stay nice and full some use test all the way and dont seem to have problems with water retention guess only one way to find out is to try it

when you competeing next SM??

Each to their own. I think 2 weeks isnt really enough.

At the end of the day, depends on your water issues with test.

One comp I ran test suspension 1ML ED right up until the day of the comp.

Wasnt too watery.

Not anytime in the future mate.

[tomsammce]

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

I havent heard 4 weeks out I generally see 2-1 week depending on the ester most should be using prop to limit water retention then drop all injectables in the last week and use winny to stay nice and full some use test all the way and dont seem to have problems with water retention guess only one way to find out is to try it

when you competeing next SM??

Each to their own. I think 2 weeks isnt really enough.

At the end of the day, depends on your water issues with test.

One comp I ran test suspension 1ML ED right up until the day of the comp.

Wasnt too watery.

Not anytime in the future mate.

if the comp is held in the long room he will compete lol

[Sifo-Dyas]

I like to have just a few compounds that work well together.

as for comp prep the non aromatising gear is great for hardness but fast test is great for fullness and nothing beats suspension for carb loading

[Anaru84]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

bloat is diet dependant and estrogen dependant. take care of your diet and estrogen and u have nothing to worry about. ive been told by this pro that he'd use letro and nolva together to drop bloat, and use diuretics also.

ester length has nothing to do with bloat, ive ran suspension and been bloated as. how can that be when there is no ester?

fwiw i dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive.

[Mrbig]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

bloat is diet dependant and estrogen dependant. take care of your diet and estrogen and u have nothing to worry about. ive been told by this pro that he'd use letro and nolva together to drop bloat, and use diuretics also.

ester length has nothing to do with bloat, ive ran suspension and been bloated as. how can that be when there is no ester?

fwiw i dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive.

you keep saying this PRO blah blah if you want any credibility from it Name the PRO or its just hearsay

maybe 1g of test isnt much for the Pros

[samoan_muscle]

I like to have just a few compounds that work well together.

as for comp prep the non aromatising gear is great for hardness but fast teat is great for fullness and nothing beats suspension for carb loading

It's all about finding that balance at the end of the day, right Sifo.

[samoan_muscle]

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

bloat is diet dependant and estrogen dependant. take care of your diet and estrogen and u have nothing to worry about. ive been told by this pro that he'd use letro and nolva together to drop bloat, and use diuretics also.

ester length has nothing to do with bloat, ive ran suspension and been bloated as. how can that be when there is no ester?

fwiw i dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive.

you keep saying this PRO blah blah if you want any credibility from it Name the PRO or its just hearsay

maybe 1g of test isnt much for the Pros

^^ This.

Anaru: cheers for the info but all in all who gives a shit what the pros are using.

I mean, no shit, bloat is diet dependant and estrogen dependant. Thats a given. Its also user dependant. Everyone reacts differently to different doses of test.

For me, 1g of test isnt an option. I aromatize easily.

Cant see the point of using excessive doses of testosterone then using Letro and diurectics etc to try and control the excess water. Whats the point in that?

BTW, I never mentioned anything about esters causing bloat.

Stop making stuff up in your head. WTF are you on about.

Stop hot boxing the car with the cuzzies. Youre not making any sense.

[samoan_muscle]

i was told by an ifbb pro that 400 deca 400 eq and 1000test is great cycle. he runs that before a comp and adds stana to the last 6 weeks. Not excessive i believe large none the less but not excessive

A gram of test before a comp sounds majorly excessive to me.

I thought the general school of thought would be to drop test at least 4 weeks out from a show to come in nice and dry.

bloat is diet dependant and estrogen dependant. take care of your diet and estrogen and u have nothing to worry about. ive been told by this pro that he'd use letro and nolva together to drop bloat, and use diuretics also.

ester length has nothing to do with bloat, ive ran suspension and been bloated as. how can that be when there is no ester?

fwiw i dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive.

You stoned cuz?

You dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive? LOL.

I think its excessive too. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Your suspension comment, yeah so what? So under your school of thought, you must have been bloated cos your diet was off and you werent controlling your estrogen?

My suspension comment to Mr Big was merely an example that I have used test before 1 comp. 50mg a ml so a total of 350mg a week.

[severe]

fwiw i dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive.

You stoned cuz?

You dont believe 1g of test isnt excessive? LOL.

I think its excessive too. Thanks for agreeing with me.

Good spotting! lol

Maybe the 'pros' he speaks of are street workers. test is a new name for crack?

[startinfromscratch]

is anaru goku back again?

[Sifo-Dyas]

I like to have just a few compounds that work well together.

as for comp prep the non aromatising gear is great for hardness but fast teat is great for fullness and nothing beats suspension for carb loading

It's all about finding that balance at the end of the day, right Sifo.

Dam straight there SM. If you get enough regionals to practice on you can have a lot of fun playing with compounds.

I came in my hardest on Tren/EQ/Stanz & var with plenty of fat burners and anti E...But I came in the biggest and fullest when I did a regional 5 weeks out from nationals and was running Prop & dbol even on the day!

[Anaru84]

I like to have just a few compounds that work well together.

as for comp prep the non aromatising gear is great for hardness but fast teat is great for fullness and nothing beats suspension for carb loading

It's all about finding that balance at the end of the day, right Sifo.

Dam straight there SM. If you get enough regionals to practice on you can have a lot of fun playing with compounds.

I came in my hardest on Tren/EQ/Stanz & var with plenty of fat burners and anti E...But I came in the biggest and fullest when I did a regional 5 weeks out from nationals and was running Prop & dbol even on the day!

Can i asked why u used an anti e when u did that prep? i was flamed for suggesting it before... looking at the stack u did the only aromatising compound u used was eq and even still it doesnt aromatise that much so im interested to see why u used it? is it that im the new guy and i get flamed for saying anything but the veteran poster is allowed to say what he wants?

I wont be posting up an names on a public forum, thats just stupid. pro or not no1 wants to be outted unless they do so themselves.

going back, no i dont believe 1000mg is excessive. looking at the tren/eq/stan and var cycle before im sure the doses came close to 1g a week. whats the difference? 1g is 1g

i currently have a friend on 1.8g of test EW, 50mg anapolin ED, 600mg of deca EW, 20iu of HGH EW, and 5-10 IU of slin every training day 4 weeks on 4 off. This is his off season bulk cycle. he is 132kg 6'2'' and 23 yrs old at about 14%bf currently. His theory on cycles is do a minimum of 4 compounds no more the 1 nor 19 at a time at medium doses. this time his test is high. U fellahs can stay with what ever doses suit you. if 1g is too much dont do it then. end of the day if u can handle it then why not look for that extra growth?