dull ache in kidneys, advices needed.

[Roidzilla]

2.5 weeks into 1st proper cycle, shooting 250mg cyp 2xweek.

only 2 and a half weeks in.

running dbol alongside, started on 25mgED, pretraining. upped to 30, then 40mg ED in 2nd week. dropped dbolback to 30mg as a split dose this week, as lower/mid back feeling pumped.

have put on approx 8kg so far.

last 2 days have gotten a dull ache in my kidneys. net searches say it could be lack of water intake, though i get minimum 3l a day.

more likely its pressure on the kidneys from all the water weight - if this is right, i can just drop the dbol - cyp will be at full noise in a week supposedly.

I have titan Fem and nolva on hand, i figure the nolva isnt gonna help, but maybe i should do 1/4 or 1/2ml of fem to drop some water?

any similar experiences?

[genetic freek]

Drop the dbol.

Or tough it out.

Milk thistle???

[Sifo-Dyas]

The dbol can be a shocker for the kidney aches. Lower the dose. increase water and take a shot of Vitamin B.

If this fails to fix it, discontinue use of dbol or switch to Stanz to maintain the IGF-1 spikes.

[genetic freek]

Stanz will give the same problem if he is getting sore kidneys on Dbol. Not as bad but still.

[Pete_S]

Stanz will give the same problem if he is getting sore kidneys on Dbol. Not as bad but still.

Had this recently after switching to a new brand of winstrol tabs. Felt like a constant "stitch" in my side. Water was very low though at only 2L a day which wouldn't have helped. I've dropped them now and has come right.

[Roidzilla]

Drop the dbol.

Or tough it out.

Milk thistle???

been smashing 50,000mg milk thistle ED bro.

The dbol can be a shocker for the kidney aches. Lower the dose. increase water and take a shot of Vitamin B.

If this fails to fix it, discontinue use of dbol or switch to Stanz to maintain the IGF-1 spikes.

i have dropped the dbol, and over the last 3 days kidney pain has subsided to almost nothing now.

Stanz will give the same problem if he is getting sore kidneys on Dbol. Not as bad but still.

Had this recently after switching to a new brand of winstrol tabs. Felt like a constant "stitch" in my side. Water was very low though at only 2L a day which wouldn't have helped. I've dropped them now and has come right.

this interests me - i am considering doing some oral stanz instead, as its the water retention that seems to be the problem, and stanz is supposedly just as anabolic but little to no andro activity, i would expect that running 40-50mg of stanz would cause no excess water retention?

pete_s, are you able to pm me the brand causing you the issues? im interested to knnow so i dont risk the same if i am prone to kidney issues.

i am writing notes on my cycle as i go along, and will post the whole thing once cycle is done.