Dubious Product

[severe]

sounds like theres a few people that a bit overly defensive of a certain brand.

Why call EQ when it has a cypionate ester?

Well I am not one of them, I not using the same as you claim to have on you right now, but I refuse to sound like a cry baby pussy, by crying wolf before having the balls to take it back for answers.

Put a spine where your mouth is and take it back.

[maassive]

sounds like theres a few people that a bit overly defensive of a certain brand.

Why call EQ when it has a cypionate ester?

Well I am not one of them, I not using the same as you claim to have on you right now, but I refuse to sound like a cry baby pussy, by crying wolf before having the balls to take it back for answers.

Put a spine where your mouth is and take it back.

+1. I think a big part of this is who you get your gear from. If you get it from someone you can't trust enough to talk to about it, then you get what you get and you don't get upset.

[WANABJAKD]

your gear crashed? boo hoo...nothing a microwave cant fix :wink:

Another assumption

how so? i came home today to find my npp in the form of a sludge--theres a first for everything, but like i said, "nothing a microwave cant fix."

your gear crashed? boo hoo...nothing a microwave cant fix :wink:

hey WBJ what do you mean by crashed gear?

well 'crashing' is basically when the hormone comes out of solution. from my experience, it can crash in many ways; it can also come out of solution in specs, in a sludge, in swirls and finally, it can crystallize--i think this is more related to temperature though. my prop crystallizes almost every other day. i pop it in the microwave for about 10 seconds and its good to go. i guess thats goes with the territory of having prop, tren and npp dosed at 200mg/ml.

[Sifo-Dyas]

sounds like theres a few people that a bit overly defensive of a certain brand.

Why call EQ when it has a cypionate ester?

EQ (Equipoise) was a generic name from a brand given to Boldenone undecylenate within the horse breeding world. Cypionate and undecylenate are just the esters by which the Boldenone molecules are attached to that effects the time in which it takes for that molecule to migrate into the blood stream. Undecylenate - 21-28 days. Cypionate - 5-7 days.

The molecule, the receptor in interacts with and its effect on the human body is identical regardless of the ester.

Boldenone Cypionate is a fast acting EQ so calling it EQ is the correct name and being described as fast EQ makes it very clear for people to understand the subtle but useful differences.

[Sifo-Dyas]

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Its blatantly obvious that you know nothing about Titan Eq or the pharmacology of chemical compounds. Titan's Boldenone is manufactured on the cypionate ester not the undecylenate ester. It requires a higher level of solvents to hold the chemical in solution at full strength. Because Titan want to deliver the most advanced and active product in their Boldenone there becomes a fine line in the levels of solvents used for painless injection & there being sufficient to hold it up without crashing or crystallising, much the same as Trenbolone Acetate or Testosterone Propionate. For a member that has absolutely no credibility on this site from past posting history & a complete lack of intelligence about the background of gear in NZ, I would suggest you keep your comments & mentioning of manufacturers in NZ to yourself. I doubt very much if your opinion amounts to anything other that shit stirring.

ahhhh so your the titan man then

More like a staunch supporter or angry watch dog lol. I would imagine the supplier to be a tad more sympathetic. MNZ wants blood lol.

After the shambles earlier in the week that named two people I can understand why there would be some sensitivity to claims of dubious gear on a quality product.

[tomsammce]

i bought a titan eq off a guy in auckland he had it spare... i was just aout to withdraw a few mls of it and noticed the bottom was crystallised almost looked like the vial was shattered at the bottom. so for all the guys saying it doesnt crystallise... some or one of the batches were fucken arse and it does.

in saying that he guy i dealt with was really good came and gave my money back right away and said the guys in chch would replace happily... fyi that was his second eq resend as his very first was fucked up too and hurt like hell for days post injection...

there is some knowledagble people on here in the subject of steroids and they are taking advantage of that by bullshitting people that this is untrue and these are false accusations.

i got my money back and had no problem switched to using Global Anabolics EQ.

all good giving the money back no questions asked but at the end of the day it was still fucked up wasnt it, and its fair enough people saying so... what if sumone buys from an arsehole source who dnt give refunds, this thread would posssibly prevent loss for them.

[musclenz]

sounds like theres a few people that a bit overly defensive of a certain brand.

Why call EQ when it has a cypionate ester?

Sure I'm defensive of a brand that I have used since its establishment in NZ some 2+ years ago. Its probably some of the best gear you can buy in quality, strength & value. People like you that come onto a public forum such as this & shout out & flame others, with a total lack of knowledge about the products involved, can only be doing two things. 1. They are trying to embellish their pathetic ego & support whilst hiding behind a non de plume or 2. they are part of a group that are trying to discredit credible sources of supply to further their own agenda & market share which amounts to nothing less than subversion.

[Sifo-Dyas]

i bought a titan eq off a guy in auckland he had it spare... i was just aout to withdraw a few mls of it and noticed the bottom was crystallised almost looked like the vial was shattered at the bottom. so for all the guys saying it doesnt crystallise... some or one of the batches were fucken arse and it does.

in saying that he guy i dealt with was really good came and gave my money back right away and said the guys in chch would replace happily... fyi that was his second eq resend as his very first was fucked up too and hurt like hell for days post injection...

there is some knowledagble people on here in the subject of steroids and they are taking advantage of that by bullshitting people that this is untrue and these are false accusations.

i got my money back and had no problem switched to using Global Anabolics EQ.

all good giving the money back no questions asked but at the end of the day it was still fucked up wasnt it, and its fair enough people saying so... what if sumone buys from an arsehole source who dnt give refunds, this thread would posssibly prevent loss for them.

Other than MNZ passionate outburst fueled by events earlier this week, can you please direct my attention to any false accusations on this thread? there are a few opinions from personal experiences. Some advice, one outburst and a pile of interesting facts.

Maybe I missed something? ? ? ? Please enlighten me.PS GAULS EQ is pretty good alright...athough a few months ago they had a real stonky painful batch too...must be something about EQ. Never had any problem with the Genesis EQ but then again it was not the fast one I wanted to try

[musclenz]

i bought a titan eq off a guy in auckland he had it spare... i was just aout to withdraw a few mls of it and noticed the bottom was crystallised almost looked like the vial was shattered at the bottom. so for all the guys saying it doesnt crystallise... some or one of the batches were fucken arse and it does.

in saying that he guy i dealt with was really good came and gave my money back right away and said the guys in chch would replace happily... fyi that was his second eq resend as his very first was fucked up too and hurt like hell for days post injection...

there is some knowledagble people on here in the subject of steroids and they are taking advantage of that by bullshitting people that this is untrue and these are false accusations.

i got my money back and had no problem switched to using Global Anabolics EQ.

all good giving the money back no questions asked but at the end of the day it was still fucked up wasnt it, and its fair enough people saying so... what if sumone buys from an arsehole source who dnt give refunds, this thread would posssibly prevent loss for them.

See the thing is Tom you cannot compare Globals Eq with Titans because the delivery esters are different. Titan has admitted that it had issues with trying to make a stable product on the cypionate ester. I'm pretty sure everyone that had complaints with the new product were informed & products were replaced without question.This is quite an advanced & technical compound to produce I believe but has resulted in a superior Eq to what has been available in NZ to date from point of the time it takes to be active in the blood. I have used many brands of gear & often you strike a batch that crystallises. This is no reason not to use the vial. Normally the crystals afix to the glass & you can still draw & us the oil no problem. It can also be reheated to help disolve the crystals into solution. Actually, its not a bad thing to happen because it can only occur when the chemical is at full strength in the carrier.

As I said above, I have used Titan for more than 2 years & never had any issues with it until the new Eq was going through its development stages. One or two unstable vials does not make a brand so bad that it deserves to be labeled by people who obviously dont even use it or have any knowledge on its products. But thanks for your 2c worth. Thats at least what is good about this thread. It allows for users discussion. Probably more than we should

[checksandbalances]

i bought a titan eq off a guy in auckland he had it spare... i was just aout to withdraw a few mls of it and noticed the bottom was crystallised almost looked like the vial was shattered at the bottom. so for all the guys saying it doesnt crystallise... some or one of the batches were fucken arse and it does.

in saying that he guy i dealt with was really good came and gave my money back right away and said the guys in chch would replace happily... fyi that was his second eq resend as his very first was fucked up too and hurt like hell for days post injection...

there is some knowledagble people on here in the subject of steroids and they are taking advantage of that by bullshitting people that this is untrue and these are false accusations.

i got my money back and had no problem switched to using Global Anabolics EQ.

all good giving the money back no questions asked but at the end of the day it was still fucked up wasnt it, and its fair enough people saying so... what if sumone buys from an arsehole source who dnt give refunds, this thread would posssibly prevent loss for them.

See the thing is Tom you cannot compare Globals Eq with Titans because the delivery esters are different. Titan has admitted that it had issues with trying to make a stable product on the cypionate ester. I'm pretty sure everyone that had complaints with the new product were informed & products were replaced without question.This is quite an advanced & technical compound to produce I believe but has resulted in a superior Eq to what has been available in NZ to date from point of the time it takes to be active in the blood. I have used many brands of gear & often you strike a batch that crystallises. This is no reason not to use the vial. Normally the crystals afix to the glass & you can still draw & us the oil no problem. It can also be reheated to help disolve the crystals into solution. Actually, its not a bad thing to happen because it can only occur when the chemical is at full strength in the carrier.

As I said above, I have used Titan for more than 2 years & never had any issues with it until the new Eq was going through its development stages. One or two unstable vials does not make a brand so bad that it deserves to be labeled by people who obviously dont even use it or have any knowledge on its products. But thanks for your 2c worth. Thats at least what is good about this thread. It allows for users discussion. Probably more than we should

Why are they selling their trial batches while they working out their recipe?

doesn't seem like good business practise whether this be related to gear or any business. to knowingly sell second rate products. This brings in to question their ethics in knowingly selling a product that they know will be painful for the user. Hardly wat i would call someone pioneering something.

[startinfromscratch]

i bought a titan eq off a guy in auckland he had it spare... i was just aout to withdraw a few mls of it and noticed the bottom was crystallised almost looked like the vial was shattered at the bottom. so for all the guys saying it doesnt crystallise... some or one of the batches were fucken arse and it does.

in saying that he guy i dealt with was really good came and gave my money back right away and said the guys in chch would replace happily... fyi that was his second eq resend as his very first was fucked up too and hurt like hell for days post injection...

there is some knowledagble people on here in the subject of steroids and they are taking advantage of that by bullshitting people that this is untrue and these are false accusations.

i got my money back and had no problem switched to using Global Anabolics EQ.

all good giving the money back no questions asked but at the end of the day it was still fucked up wasnt it, and its fair enough people saying so... what if sumone buys from an arsehole source who dnt give refunds, this thread would posssibly prevent loss for them.

See the thing is Tom you cannot compare Globals Eq with Titans because the delivery esters are different. Titan has admitted that it had issues with trying to make a stable product on the cypionate ester. I'm pretty sure everyone that had complaints with the new product were informed & products were replaced without question.This is quite an advanced & technical compound to produce I believe but has resulted in a superior Eq to what has been available in NZ to date from point of the time it takes to be active in the blood. I have used many brands of gear & often you strike a batch that crystallises. This is no reason not to use the vial. Normally the crystals afix to the glass & you can still draw & us the oil no problem. It can also be reheated to help disolve the crystals into solution. Actually, its not a bad thing to happen because it can only occur when the chemical is at full strength in the carrier.

As I said above, I have used Titan for more than 2 years & never had any issues with it until the new Eq was going through its development stages. One or two unstable vials does not make a brand so bad that it deserves to be labeled by people who obviously dont even use it or have any knowledge on its products. But thanks for your 2c worth. Thats at least what is good about this thread. It allows for users discussion. Probably more than we should

Why are they selling their trial batches while they working out their recipe?

doesn't seem like good business practise whether this be related to gear or any business. to knowingly sell second rate products. This brings in to question their ethics in knowingly selling a product that they know will be painful for the user. Hardly wat i would call someone pioneering something.

what brand do you support C&B?

[train hard]

Titan has some very good gear and a very good range off products the guys down there are on to a very good thing but the EQ/bold cyp 200 mg/mill has had its problems myself on 2 separate occasions with eq problems been bad site pain and a fever and crystalizing but in saying that the guys i dealt with allways exchanged no questions and are good dudes to deal with they now make it 100mg/mill in a 20mill vial and it can keep stable at that dose so if any of the old 200mg is floating around yes it is real and very strong but it should be sent back as if it is not crystalising be prepared for some awesome site pain and or flu/fever symtoms i have experienced this and so has one of my training partners not trying to bag them i am a very happy Titan customer and they are working very hard to deliver good quality products

[oldfella]

I also use mainly Titan gear. Absolutely no problems at all. Used a little of other brands but have been fortunate enough to have had no issues.

You'll find down here we don't rip people off.

[thatwaslight]

I also use mainly Titan gear. Absolutely no problems at all. Used a little of other brands but have been fortunate enough to have had no issues.

You'll find down here we don't rip people off.

must say i only hear about it up north....

[Sifo-Dyas]

Why are they selling their trial batches while they working out their recipe?

doesn't seem like good business practise whether this be related to gear or any business. to knowingly sell second rate products. This brings in to question their ethics in knowingly selling a product that they know will be painful for the user. Hardly wat i would call someone pioneering something.

I have got the good fortune of knowing the people behind Titan and if you want question the ethics you should be made aware of some truths before you go down that path.

Many of the faster esters and exotic products require a higher percentage of solvent to make them stable. This will make them painful for those with a low tolerance to the solvents.

It is no question of ethics when the batch of EQ that was reported as being painful was sold with full disclosure that it would in fact bite. I used it and found it a great product that I tolerated well, as did many serious athletes that can appreciate that there are compromises we make with the use of exciting new compounds.

This EQ did not cause pain because it was dirty, quite the opposit in fact, the organic based chemicals used for sterility are required at a higher percentage to make them at such a high strength. Same can be said for Titan Tren Acetate. this is an amazing product that achieves fantastic results by everyone I know that has used it...but yep it bites a little. It is not intended that such rare compounds should be used by inexperienced athletes or people with a low pain tolerance for the solvents in gear.

We use to get huge bladders of testosterone propionate that could put people out of action for days. But now days with the smooth esters like enanthate, site irritation is now only found in the rare exotic compounds.

As far as crystallisation of gear goes. There isn't a brand of gear in this country that hasn't had something crash sometime for some random reason. It is the most common occurance that has happened to every brand of gear I have tried and also comes with the simplest of cures - heat. I just warm it slowly until the crystals returned to solution. I never returned any crashed gear for refund because as far as gear is concerned, if it crashes it has been made too strong for the solution and this is seen as a positive (slightly inconvenient) situation.

With gear that crystallises it is never sold knowingly. It may crystallise a week a month or a year after it is made or just crash in cold weather and return to solution when it warms up. It is no big deal, but hey, get it replaced or refunded if you have any concern...seriously!

Judging by the amount of positive feedback and support, it looks to be a good business practice to supply rare exotic products like Boldenone Cypionate, Masteron, Tren Acetate, Primobolan, Nandrolone Phenylpropionate, Anavar etc.

Standard products are never a problem and you will never hear anyone complaining about these because they could be made by trained monkeys in someones garage and still be effective and painless. But I love exotic products and variety and am willing to accept a bit of site irritation for the privilege of using them.

The EQ was never second rate or trial batch. Myself and other respected athletes were given samples of the very first batches to trial and rate. We unanimously found it effective and tolerable. It was then made available to purchase. And it was made very clear when purchased that it did cause site irritation and to slit dose to 0.5ml each site. There was no set recipe for making this product. It is that new and we have it here in New Zealand. That's fantastic.

The business and ethics of the people I have dealt with on all the Titan products has never been in question.

I was told that you were even contacted in person over PM to ensure your situation was dealt with in a way that would satisfy your displeasure in this product and to refund or replace it no question...

But you did not reply and only chose to complain first about the product and second about the ethics of the people that produced it.

The fact that this is your first post and you are not interested in having your problem resolved in the most ethical fashion means that obviously you are a competitor that is losing business to this brand and you are only interested in discrediting the brand to further your own interests...

Who's ethics are in question here GEEZ!!! :^o

You can't help some people lol