Fake Gear WATCH OUT!!!!

[Pseudonym]

Eh? I'm sorry, but I don't understand a word of what Perfection123 was trying to say. Could someone translate it for me so I know whether to delete it? :-s

[AgentOrange]

Seems like some kind of riddle lol

[Optimass]

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[WANABJAKD]

i think Pseudonym knows very well whats happening in the background of these forums, and im sure he has the ability to read all our personal messages. if you guys are going to engage in illicit trade, you should tread carefully; as musclenz said, "people in glass-houses should not throw stones." its one thing to warn people away(and perhaps in a more suitable, private manner), then its another to publicly indite someones identity--this could lead to serious legal implications. the way everyones jumped into this, it would seem like a witch hunt to many.

[Sifo-Dyas]

+1 to that Wanabjackd

[Roidzilla]

i think Pseudonym knows very well whats happening in the background of these forums, and im sure he has the ability to read all our personal messages. if you guys are going to engage in illicit trade, you should tread carefully; as musclenz said, "people in glass-houses should not throw stones." its one thing to warn people away(and perhaps in a more suitable, private manner), then its another to publicly indite someones identity--this could lead to serious legal implications. the way everyones jumped into this, it would seem like a witch hunt to many.

the reason they have been 'identified' is because of the sheer number of people theyve fucked over. i know peeps that have been burnt by these 2.

Sifo has mentioned in previous threads about how good sources are protected by the people that use them, and that their is a kind of 'honour code' system that makes it so that the guys that are in the 'circle of trust' protect their supply, and only people who have earnt trust first get the option of being helped.

hence why when a member pm's you asking for hookups, with 1 post and no cred, you dont answer lol.

these guys are the opposite, they have shit on many ppl, and continue to. Part of protecting good suppliers is outing scammers. dudes like these 2 are one of the reasons for the perceptions the public have about gear - they create the horror stories by A) supplying bunk gear and B) supplying to people that shouldnt be supplied in the name of profit....

2c

[Sifo-Dyas]

the reason they have been 'identified' is because of the sheer number of people theyve fucked over. i know peeps that have been burnt by these 2.

Sifo has mentioned in previous threads about how good sources are protected by the people that use them, and that their is a kind of 'honour code' system that makes it so that the guys that are in the 'circle of trust' protect their supply, and only people who have earnt trust first get the option of being helped.

hence why when a member pm's you asking for hookups, with 1 post and no cred, you dont answer lol.

these guys are the opposite, they have shit on many ppl, and continue to. Part of protecting good suppliers is outing scammers. dudes like these 2 are one of the reasons for the perceptions the public have about gear - they create the horror stories by A) supplying bunk gear and B) supplying to people that shouldnt be supplied in the name of profit....

2c

Interesting post "Roidzilla" What is your horror story? What was your personal experience from dealing these two? Be good to hear some facts on the subject...Or are you seperated by a degree of separation and only posting "you know a guy, that knows a guy"

[tomsammce]

the reason they have been 'identified' is because of the sheer number of people theyve fucked over. i know peeps that have been burnt by these 2.

Sifo has mentioned in previous threads about how good sources are protected by the people that use them, and that their is a kind of 'honour code' system that makes it so that the guys that are in the 'circle of trust' protect their supply, and only people who have earnt trust first get the option of being helped.

hence why when a member pm's you asking for hookups, with 1 post and no cred, you dont answer lol.

these guys are the opposite, they have shit on many ppl, and continue to. Part of protecting good suppliers is outing scammers. dudes like these 2 are one of the reasons for the perceptions the public have about gear - they create the horror stories by A) supplying bunk gear and B) supplying to people that shouldnt be supplied in the name of profit....

2c

Interesting post "Roidzilla" What is your horror story? What was your personal experience from dealing these two? Be good to hear some facts on the subject...Or are you seperated by a degree of separation and only posting "you know a guy, that knows a guy"

be good to hear some facts? what kind of evidence would u like so u can finally be happy its fact and not fiction. its an internet forum where u cannot name people openly, people posting want to be anonymous... so what kind of hard facts do u want.... this amount of people dont just all have common accusations without reason.. u ask for facts... well its kinda up to the reader to decide for themselves what is fact and fiction on a board like this i mean everyones posts on subjects of this matter are based on experiences or opinions.

i just dont understand what exactly your after from people tellin their experiences

[Sifo-Dyas]

Some actual facts from personal experience not hairsay from a known member without an alterior motive...seen any of that anywhere??

[gaza246]

Some actual facts from personal experience not hairsay from a known member without an alterior motive...seen any of that anywhere??

Okay here are pics of the fakes

Can anyone tell me how to load photos onto this board??

[thatwaslight]

Goto the tab that says upload attachment

[gaza246]

Goto the tab that says upload attachment

I was sent more I'll post them all soon

[gaza246]

Goto the tab that says upload attachment

I was sent more I'll post them all soon

Heres one for the books it seems that all their stuff is the same but with different labels. These labels that I have pics of were found on top of empire labels!!

As far as I know Empires Sus 250 label is orange and Global is not call Global Pharmacy, I don't have fake pic of Titan or Apollo. I know really know if they have been faked.

[Sifo-Dyas]

Goto the tab that says upload attachment

I was sent more I'll post them all soon

I might be jumping the gun a bit here gaza but these pics you have posted look like empire and global gear that I have had before and am happy with.

Admittedly it was some time ago when I tested them but from memory they did look the same as what you posted.

Are these pics all pics of fake global & empire? are there any comparisons so that we may be able to spot the fake beside the real one?

And which one includes the compound that reportedly hospitalised some poor unsuspecting muppet?

There are a lot of people here that are supporters of Empire and Global gear and it would be a real service if you could show the fake against the real product, otherwise these brands will cop the fallout from a thread meant to protect them and stop the counterfeiting.

[thatwaslight]

lol fark they look fishy as never seen deca and test look that different, that deca looks more like tren being that yellow haha

[Roidzilla]

Some actual facts from personal experience not hairsay from a known member without an alterior motive...seen any of that anywhere??

what the f*ck do you want, blood tests and licences?

'my mate' is all i can say on here. his handle on here is cast iron, though he doesnt post here anymore.

If you think that all the people who have backed up comments on the 2 scammers are wrong, what are you basing your decision on? having a bunch of people actually posting their own experiences with these 2 isnt enough?

[gaza246]

Goto the tab that says upload attachment

I was sent more I'll post them all soon

I might be jumping the gun a bit here gaza but these pics you have posted look like empire and global gear that I have had before and am happy with.

Admittedly it was some time ago when I tested them but from memory they did look the same as what you posted.

Are these pics all pics of fake global & empire? are there any comparisons so that we may be able to spot the fake beside the real one?

And which one includes the compound that reportedly hospitalised some poor unsuspecting muppet?

There are a lot of people here that are supporters of Empire and Global gear and it would be a real service if you could show the fake against the real product, otherwise these brands will cop the fallout from a thread meant to protect them and stop the counterfeiting.

Got your point I'll post pics of real Empire. I dont have any Global. But the real Global is NOT called Global Pharmacy!!! as you all would know

[gaza246]

I might be jumping the gun a bit here gaza but these pics you have posted look like empire and global gear that I have had before and am happy with.

You are not really listening to what has been said.

First off Empire has stopped using tall vials except for a few test Suspension. If you as stated have use those brands before. you would know that it's color coded Labels, Test E Red, Sus 250 Orange and Deca Purple Test Suspension Black. I don't know all their other colour's are.

I'm sick of trying to get this point across.

I'm out of here. Back to my American boards, At least you are not flamed for putting a point across there

[Sifo-Dyas]

Wow didn't mean to make you cry dude!

[musclenz]

I might be jumping the gun a bit here gaza but these pics you have posted look like empire and global gear that I have had before and am happy with.

You are not really listening to what has been said.

First off Empire has stopped using tall vials except for a few test Suspension. If you as stated have use those brands before. you would know that it's color coded Labels, Test E Red, Sus 250 Orange and Deca Purple Test Suspension Black. I don't know all their other colour's are.

I'm sick of trying to get this point across.

I'm out of here. Back to my American boards, At least you are not flamed for putting a point across there

No ones flaming you gaza. Its good of you to take the time to put up the pics. Anyone that uses or is involved with Empire on here should be able to spot the fakes by the type of cap & colours used in the printing process. However, it still does not give a clear indication that the vials are dud gear. After all, these brands are all manufactured in NZ UG Labs I believe & are subject to variations I would suggest. I think its Global Pharmaceuticals.

[thatwaslight]

Faced with this issue many times I came up with a comprehensive testing system.....

If your balls shrink, it's good.

[Jigga]

LOL

[HarryB]

Wow didn't mean to make you cry dude!

Gee you must endorse this stuff the way you carry on protecting people when clearly so much "anecdotal" evidence would suggest they are crooks.

The nature of this public forum means guys can't go around saying too much and you know it so it's all too easy to asks for facts. I found this informative and is a warning I would take on board if it affected me.

[severe]

Faced with this issue many times I came up with a comprehensive testing system.....

If your balls shrink, it's good.

With all the call outs for proof on this thread, please don't start posting photo proof of this.

:grin:

[Sifo-Dyas]

Wow didn't mean to make you cry dude!

Gee you must endorse this stuff the way you carry on protecting people when clearly so much "anecdotal" evidence would suggest they are crooks.

The nature of this public forum means guys can't go around saying too much and you know it so it's all too easy to asks for facts. I found this informative and is a warning I would take on board if it affected me.

My experience with the two named was completely different and I don't know them and live as far away from them as you can get so they had every opportunity to rip me off.

The guy in question that was ripped off and hospitalised has not posted? Does he need his mum to do it for him?

I would love to see a comparison between the two because I have heard there are fakes out there but Gaza did not say whether the ones he posted pics of are all the fakes.

There are a lot of sheep who will read something and join a linch mob with no real knowledge or experience.

There are also a lot of people that here that will trash a brand or product to fuel their own agendas... as is the case with the thread "Dubious product"

Empire and Global have been trusted brands and they are going to cop a lot of fall out when the legit products are good quality.

And it wasn't Gaza or the guy that got ripped off and put in hospital that named the two people, it was some other sheep or muppet with an agenda.