Fake Gear WATCH OUT!!!!

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instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

theyre still in business cos there are always newbs or ppl with no other options around. plus we cant 'name' them here, even though there are several on this board that have been shat on by these 2.

WBJ are you related to them? (serious) or moe? (also serious)

[tomsammce]

these guys will change the empire label for global pharmacy and also there is british dispensery labbeled vials floating around. so its not just empire they have a few labels they are using

the legitimate empire from my knowledge has the different colour labels for different compounds and same coloured flip top seals to match the label. and these fakes i think are all red. the legitimate empire is every good stuff.

[Optimass]

Maassive....is your avatar pic a Mr Bean in Avatar?

It's brilliant

LoL - I was also thinking this

[genetic freek]

instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

Would you advice that these businesses become gst registered, and would it be better for them set up a sole trader or become a limited entity?

[Optimass]

Always run the red stuff personally, i find it sticks to my teeth less and i get better results.

There is some good red stuff going round just be careful to watch for black stuff flavored as red.

BLACK STUFF FLAVOURED AS RED!!! .... MUTHERFUCKERS! My uncles second cousin twice removed, slept with a circus midget who was connected to the italian mafia said that those guys should be punched in the throat

Have you not been laughing this whole thread already? lol

:nod:

[severe]

I prefer red licorice but I have heard the latest batch is slightly underdosed .... will revert back to the black stuff after this cycle.

Will be running toffee pops and coke as a pct .. any one else had experience with this?

Always run the red stuff personally, i find it sticks to my teeth less and i get better results.

There is some good red stuff going round just be careful to watch for black stuff flavored as red.

Personally have had bloods done after running coke 1000ml ED and 1 pack of butterscotch toffee pops EOD for 5 weeks and found it had no effect on baseline figures. Was told from someone in the know that i went wrong with the butterscotch as they still interfere with the HPTA, the dark kind are the way to go. if weight loss still continues up your protocol to a packet of dark ED.

I fear you have a vested interest in the sales of RED, so I am now going to buy BLACK. Unless you are using reverse psychology, then I will be buying your BLACK product, and ignoring the RED which may be the real deal.

OMG, I can't keep up with all this social engineering. :doh:

Perhaps this is a conspiracy orchestrated by both you and Optimass?

Are the chocolate centered ones part of this? I need answers!

[Optimass]

Are the chocolate centered ones part of this? I need answers!

no but I heard Kai Greene used them in the build up to the NY Pro ...

[Sifo-Dyas]

instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

Geez where have you been. Havn't seen you around for a long time??

As for your questions. I think most of us could answer your questions pretty easily. Its no laugh though and the cost per gram when weighed up against the risk of prosecution??? What is it worth now?

You are dead right about the business aspect. Cheap shitty or dirty gear has zero longevity in the NZ market

[tomsammce]

once you go black you never go back..

[Chemo]

or

[tomsammce]

instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

Geez where have you been. Havn't seen you around for a long time??

As for your questions. I think most of us could answer your questions pretty easily. Its no laugh though and the cost per gram when weighed up against the risk of prosecution??? What is it worth now?

You are dead right about the business aspect. Cheap shitty or dirty gear has zero longevity in the NZ market

it does if you keep changing the brand like these towel heads are doing

[Sifo-Dyas]

Not everything that is written should be taken as gospel.

I can't believe the racist crap that gets spat out by people of potentially lesser character than those accused.

This is hair-say at best and not grounds for Crucifixion by angry mob.

If the allegations turn out to be true this needs to be dealt with and it will...but so far there has not been any actual proof.

In New Zealand it was common practice for well known labels to get counterfeited by local gear manufacturers that can't be bothered taking the time to try and establish their own brand. The gear is usually of exceptional quality.

It is unimaginable for me that weak gear with counterfeited labels put someone in hospital. I am willing to stand corrected if someone were to supply some evidence to go on? Repeat customers are the base of all business.

Lets see some pictures of the differences in brand labels and bottles to help people identify potential fakes.

The lack of tolerance and racism is disturbing! :x

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Not everything that is written should be taken as gospel.

I can't believe the racist crap that gets spat out by people of potentially lesser character than those accused.

This is hair-say at best and not grounds for Crucifixion by angry mob.

If the allegations turn out to be true this needs to be dealt with and it will...but so far there has not been any actual proof.

In New Zealand it was common practice for well known labels to get counterfeited by local gear manufacturers that can't be bothered taking the time to try and establish their own brand. The gear is usually of exceptional quality.

It is unimaginable for me that weak gear with counterfeited labels put someone in hospital. I am willing to stand corrected if someone were to supply some evidence to go on? Repeat customers are the base of all business.

Lets see some pictures of the differences in brand labels and bottles to help people identify potential fakes.

The lack of tolerance and racism is disturbing! :x

i agree the hospital thing is a bit of a stretch, but even so.. im not sure how to prove me and my friends experiences to you other than sending you bank statements or old emails? LOL.

I also was fortunate enough to know a few people further up the chain that told me all i needed to know to confirm my suspicions. That, and my mate is never got his money back. they led him on for months, then just went into silent mode - so kept the money and just cut ties after months of bullshit excuses.

And whats to stop them? plenty of newbs on here that make it clear theyre looking to source. Pm's are sent and theyre in business.

i wrote this thread about it. same guys.

got a huge number of p.m's from people, it was amazing how many people here either knew them and knew they are scammers, and a bunch of people who had been propositioned.

So imo, there is more than enough evidence, including personal experience, to back up what i have written.

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aanyone remember this thread?

lolololololol

[rovr4on]

Interesting 2 threads there sfs, Surprised the karma hasnt reared it's head yet......

[severe]

Not everything that is written should be taken as gospel.

I can't believe the racist crap that gets spat out by people of potentially lesser character than those accused.

This is hair-say at best and not grounds for Crucifixion by angry mob.

If the allegations turn out to be true this needs to be dealt with and it will...but so far there has not been any actual proof.

In New Zealand it was common practice for well known labels to get counterfeited by local gear manufacturers that can't be bothered taking the time to try and establish their own brand. The gear is usually of exceptional quality.

It is unimaginable for me that weak gear with counterfeited labels put someone in hospital. I am willing to stand corrected if someone were to supply some evidence to go on? Repeat customers are the base of all business.

Lets see some pictures of the differences in brand labels and bottles to help people identify potential fakes.

The lack of tolerance and racism is disturbing! :x

But not taking everything we hear as gospel is only as good as long as it isn't referring to the people who got scammed. They have their own version of history.

Getting ripped off always causes a lack of tolerance. Those who have been stung have the right to air their displeasure, and perhaps those who think it is ok to be less than on the level, can pull their heads in tight before they lose them.

We can all cry foul, or all cry BS!

But that means shit to those involved, at the buyers end. We already know scammers dont give a flying F about people getting ripped.

I know people with good gear, and no one posts up about them being BS scammers, so perhaps there is fire where some see the smoke?

Or are they only giving the shit olivio to new clients who may not realise it is shit? That way, the advanced user can still vouch for it?

Conspiracy again... Back to red vs black liquorice.

But to those involved, it is more black and white (no racial pun intended, either)

I reserve judgment. But this ensures I stay loyal to those who are loyal in return.

[musclenz]

The Government have issued a Royal Commission of Enquiry :wink:

[jimjim83]

The Government have issued a Royal Commission of Enquiry :wink:

Dont worry boys they have asked me to head the Inquiry. (Yes MZN its Inquiry not Enquiry as its an investigation not just an ask around)

First thing to do if find this tasty little blonde

aanyone remember this thread?

lolololololol

Second thing as usual coffee.

[gaza246]

f*ck listen to some of you guys. You know that they are selling shit yet you sill stand up for them. I know someone thats got a bridge for sale real cheap.

The guy ended up in hospital from an infection from non sterile gear. f*ck they dont even filter the shit they sell.

Hay I put a warning out if you dont believe it thats your choice. Have fun, without the gain you work for

[maassive]

f*ck listen to some of you guys. You know that they are selling shit yet you sill stand up for them. I know someone thats got a bridge for sale real cheap.

The guy ended up in hospital from an infection from non sterile gear. f*ck they dont even filter the shit they sell.

Hay I put a warning out if you dont believe it thats your choice. Have fun, without the gain you work for

Hey, i think some of us (myself for example) appreciate this thread. A lot of the reaction has been against the racist comments - which is fair enough; any and all races rip people off. There were also a few people who wanted to determine the credibility of the accusations - and I think that's fair enough too.

I'm all for threads like this. Where else would do you find this stuff out? Atleast with trademe there is feedback. chur

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f*ck listen to some of you guys. You know that they are selling shit yet you sill stand up for them. I know someone thats got a bridge for sale real cheap.

The guy ended up in hospital from an infection from non sterile gear. f*ck they dont even filter the shit they sell.

Hay I put a warning out if you dont believe it thats your choice. Have fun, without the gain you work for

Hey, i think some of us (myself for example) appreciate this thread. A lot of the reaction has been against the racist comments - which is fair enough; any and all races rip people off. There were also a few people who wanted to determine the credibility of the accusations - and I think that's fair enough too. :nod:

I'm all for threads like this. Where else would do you find this stuff out? Atleast with trademe there is feedback. chur

[Sifo-Dyas]

f*ck listen to some of you guys. You know that they are selling shit yet you sill stand up for them. I know someone thats got a bridge for sale real cheap.

The guy ended up in hospital from an infection from non sterile gear. f*ck they dont even filter the shit they sell.

Hay I put a warning out if you dont believe it thats your choice. Have fun, without the gain you work for

Mmm so you say mate. My own experience with gear from that source was very different and I don't know the guys, have never meet them and live thousands of km away so they had every opportunity to rip me off but did not.

What you have posted could very well be true, and from your stand point it certainly is.

It was the response from certain individuals that jumped on the band wagon that sparked my interest. Some of your supporters are known to have done the same if not worse and they bite down hard just to fuel their own agendas and sordid business.

In doing so they make it sound like they are friends of yours which makes this whole angry, racist thread seem like a witch hunt and it is not the first time you have done this?

[musclenz]

The Government have issued a Royal Commission of Enquiry :wink:

Dont worry boys they have asked me to head the Inquiry. (Yes MZN its Inquiry not Enquiry as its an investigation not just an ask around)

Nice pickup Sherlock

[perfection123]

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[Riccardo]

In b4 delete lol