Fake Gear WATCH OUT!!!!

[holdenman]

Nothing about this thread is right and nothing adds up. I have had gear from the named sources and I have the blood tests to prove it was full strength...admittedly it was not any of the brands mentioned as being faked.

If people want to sell weak or fake gear they should be identified...but it put a guy in hospital??? If they were selling cheap az gear all over AK there would be an epidemic of oversized patients at A&E.

This sounds more like a witch hunt. The competition trying to shut these guys down!!

I just tell it like I see it. This thread aint right!!!

go back and read my thread. These guys do have legit gear, but not everyone gets it. Not everything can be said openly, but there are alot of ppl that have been ripped off by these 2. i know of 4 personally....

Make that 5. Agreed, depends who you are as to what you get.

[Marcus]

Lets not name any names please. Keep the discussion civil or this thread will be locked. Their ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

[Sifo-Dyas]

yeah whatever dude... you are friends with them... of course youll say it all a load...

You were part of the last witch hunt so you cant say shit dude. You drop names and narc faster than you can find decent gear! You tried narcing on me and u dont even know shit about me! "Slimey weasel" You are a joke!

Dont know the guys named. Got some via Hamilton that was from them. Do know MNZ very well and know for a fact he can be trusted (unlike you NARC)

[jimjim83]

Where did I put my popcorn....

[Sifo-Dyas]

Where did I put my popcorn....

Better watch that fake butter on the popcorn JimJim.

Sounds like some of these guys need some more test (or A.I.s)...

This is worse than a sewing circle of women bitching about other people just to justify how ugly they are on the inside!

[musclenz]

Regardless of whether there is any substance in this allegation or not, I strongly object to people being named in a thread like this. People in glasshouses should not throw stones.

[train hard]

MOTHERFUKERS!

[Pseudonym]

Guys, I've just removed a whole pile of rubbish posts. If this topic is to stay open, here are the rules:

- No identifying sources, real or fake.

- No names, or hints about identities.

- No racism.

- No abuse or name-calling.

- You can use this topic to discuss how to identify real gear versus fake gear. That's all.

[Optimass]

I prefer red licorice but I have heard the latest batch is slightly underdosed .... will revert back to the black stuff after this cycle.

Will be running toffee pops and coke as a pct .. any one else had experience with this?

[gaza246]

Nothing about this thread is right and nothing adds up. I have had gear from the named sources and I have the blood tests to prove it was full strength...admittedly it was not any of the brands mentioned as being faked.

If people want to sell weak or fake gear they should be identified...but it put a guy in hospital??? If they were selling cheap az gear all over AK there would be an epidemic of oversized patients at A&E.

This sounds more like a witch hunt. The competition trying to shut these guys down!!

I just tell it like I see it. This thread aint right!!!

These guys are making counterfeits because the real gear is good. At one time had the real stuff but know that sell ?? as every type of steroid

AS you stated you know them. I know that the guy they brought there gear off is out of the picture now. Hence the fake gear. If it so cool why are they fat bastards now!!!!

[maassive]

Nothing about this thread is right and nothing adds up. I have had gear from the named sources and I have the blood tests to prove it was full strength...admittedly it was not any of the brands mentioned as being faked.

If people want to sell weak or fake gear they should be identified...but it put a guy in hospital??? If they were selling cheap az gear all over AK there would be an epidemic of oversized patients at A&E.

This sounds more like a witch hunt. The competition trying to shut these guys down!!

I just tell it like I see it. This thread aint right!!!

These guys are making counterfeits because the real gear is good. At one time had the real stuff but know that sell ?? as every type of steroid

AS you stated you know them. I know that the guy they brought there gear off is out of the picture now. Hence the fake gear. If it so cool why are they fat bastards now!!!!

thanks for posting. Now if you wouldn't mind posting that again in English, we would all appreciate it as we don't speak WHATEVERTHEFUCK that was written in.

[gaza246]

For those who want it slower.

At one time these guys did have the real Mc Coy. But the person that supplied them is no longer around. You still with me??

So these guys decide to flog off, ever a weak Test P or cooking oil to the unknown public as the one of trusted brands that are around. Still there??

Thats it in short okay

.

[maassive]

aaahhhh. yeah i c.

Here is an interesting question I'd like to air:

As is commonly known, it's pretty normal for dealers of other drugs to cut their compound down to make it go further. Peeps using shit ranging from dust to sleeping pills to mix with heroin etc.

How common is that with gear? I can imagine certain dealers owning their own crimping tool and mixing two vials into one etc with cooking oil to disguise it.

[michaelk]

Maassive....is your avatar pic a Mr Bean in Avatar?

It's brilliant

[maassive]

yeah lol! bean strikes again!

[tomsammce]

aaahhhh. yeah i c.

Here is an interesting question I'd like to air:

As is commonly known, it's pretty normal for dealers of other drugs to cut their compound down to make it go further. Peeps using shit ranging from dust to sleeping pills to mix with heroin etc.

How common is that with gear? I can imagine certain dealers owning their own crimping tool and mixing two vials into one etc with cooking oil to disguise it.

apparently not so common, from what I understand everyone selling steroids is full of high moral values, have honour and ethics. Especially sifo from this forum he's probably gonna have sir put at the front of his name soon for doing good to the nz public in regards to roids.

Wat a stupid question bro...

[gaza246]

aaahhhh. yeah i c.

Here is an interesting question I'd like to air:

As is commonly known, it's pretty normal for dealers of other drugs to cut their compound down to make it go further. Peeps using shit ranging from dust to sleeping pills to mix with heroin etc.

How common is that with gear? I can imagine certain dealers owning their own crimping tool and mixing two vials into one etc with cooking oil to disguise it.

That I have no idea on. It's a bit harder to cut gear unless you are the person making it. You'll need labels, bottles, and all the other stuff plus, as you said a crimper all these must be the same as the original bottle. If you have a bottle of the real gear just put it beside the suspected bootle and look for differences it's always easy to spot

[thatwaslight]

aaahhhh. yeah i c.

Here is an interesting question I'd like to air:

As is commonly known, it's pretty normal for dealers of other drugs to cut their compound down to make it go further. Peeps using shit ranging from dust to sleeping pills to mix with heroin etc.

How common is that with gear? I can imagine certain dealers owning their own crimping tool and mixing two vials into one etc with cooking oil to disguise it.

Def happens bro, but not usually with the big trusted brands I know of. This wouldn't last long as someone experienced knows what to look for.

[Sifo-Dyas]

aaahhhh. yeah i c.

Here is an interesting question I'd like to air:

As is commonly known, it's pretty normal for dealers of other drugs to cut their compound down to make it go further. Peeps using shit ranging from dust to sleeping pills to mix with heroin etc.

How common is that with gear? I can imagine certain dealers owning their own crimping tool and mixing two vials into one etc with cooking oil to disguise it.

It is surprisingly common. I posted a thread that eventually got my ass banned because of the practice of watering down gear.

I have run many brands local and foreign and have had blood tests which clearly show what brands can be trusted and what brands can't.

I listed the brands and you can imagine the reaction lol. Hey the facts are the facts. There are a lot of weak shitty brands out there.

If you are concerned go get your test levels done. The take the same amount of another brand and get them tested again :nod:

Don't go by hair-say and accusations and don't trust the dose unless you know for a fact what it is. Take matters into your own hands and control your own destiny when it comes to illegal compounds you put into your body.

[thatwaslight]

I prefer red licorice but I have heard the latest batch is slightly underdosed .... will revert back to the black stuff after this cycle.

Will be running toffee pops and coke as a pct .. any one else had experience with this?

Always run the red stuff personally, i find it sticks to my teeth less and i get better results.

There is some good red stuff going round just be careful to watch for black stuff flavored as red.

Personally have had bloods done after running coke 1000ml ED and 1 pack of butterscotch toffee pops EOD for 5 weeks and found it had no effect on baseline figures. Was told from someone in the know that i went wrong with the butterscotch as they still interfere with the HPTA, the dark kind are the way to go. if weight loss still continues up your protocol to a packet of dark ED.

[WANABJAKD]

instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

[rovr4on]

instead of crying like bitches, try think a little logically.

a successful business is driven by a successful service. just a couple questions; how many of you guys actually know what is involved in brewing your own gear? and how many of you guys actually know what a gram of raw testosterone powder costs? ill tell you right now, if you did, youd laugh.

guys who are dealing are typically brewing by the (greater)hundreds, if not by the thousands of mls(litres)--dirty gear is not an option; that would result in an unsuccessful service and therefore, an unsuccessful business. they would not jeopardize an entire batch, of said quantity, in an attempt to put you in hospital. guys dealing, typically do not care to cuddle, but whos to say they dont care about your health? the contingency of a returning customer outweighs the risk of a legal implication.

as for underdosed gear, thats another story.

This would be the expected mentality, but does not reflect that there is fake gear around Rams, I would like to know how much a gm of raw test is please tell..I want to laugh :grin: also an update on your stats would be greatly appreciated

[tomsammce]

Have you not been laughing this whole thread already? lol

[severe]

A decent source would exchange a batch that was no good. Because they wouldn't have to if it was good, so they can't lose.

If there is a counterfeit Empire going around, perhaps it is time to change labels?

And also, are the people you get it off massive, or pencils? That 'could' be a factor in chosing to purchase. Not exclusive proof of gear quality, but I wouldn't go to anyone smaller than me.

[AlBundy]

Hmm I'm pretty sure if you could source the raw powder and homebrew it yourself it would be incredibly cost effective and profitable. If not a little dodge if you don't know how to do it cleanly and intelligently.