physio or chiro?

[Monarchking]

Hey. been getting a reacuring knee injury on my right leg that lasts for about a week. For about 2-3months Only get it after training hamstrings and not all the time.

Its sort of in the side of the knee, not the cap bellow.

When i foam roll my hammys, seem fine, calf on the other hand Im dealing with pins in neadles in the toes, even just rubbing it in certain areas.

I have had a lower back problem same side of the body for about a year now.

Used to get sharp pain in a joint when squatting.

Its heaps better after stretching and rolling hips, but comes and goes when in a squatting posision, some days.

So what do you think? Physiotherapist or chiropractor?

Its been a fucken pain this week and its hard to bend.

Any 1 with similar problem.?

Also, are most joint issues because of muscle imbalances?

[Corey1982]

Ive had great success using a combination of chiropractic care and a good massage therapist (I recommend ones that specialise in trigger point and neuromuscular therapy). I haven't been able to get to the massage therapist as much as I would have liked but alot of foam rolling (and progression to the infamous PVC pipe) and stretching pre and post workout has gotten me back to the point of being able to train normally again. I have detailed some of my rehab in my journal (It is in the strength and powerlifting journals) and some of the things I have done to help in my rehab may be applicable to you as it sounds like your issues with squatting/hip/lower back pain may be similar to my own.

[Monarchking]

Ive had great success using a combination of chiropractic care and a good massage therapist (I recommend ones that specialise in trigger point and neuromuscular therapy). I haven't been able to get to the massage therapist as much as I would have liked but alot of foam rolling (and progression to the infamous PVC pipe) and stretching pre and post workout has gotten me back to the point of being able to train normally again. I have detailed some of my rehab in my journal (It is in the strength and powerlifting journals) and some of the things I have done to help in my rehab may be applicable to you as it sounds like your issues with squatting/hip/lower back pain may be similar to my own.

I have quite a soft foam roller(its all outa shape and its faily new) and rolling my quads almost makes me cry. I guess thats not normal? :grin:

Will check out your journal, thanks.

[Corey1982]

No worries, google piriformis syndrome also and have a read. Do your issues with squatting/bending at the hip in a sitting position occur more if you have been doing things like Barbell Rows? If so google Penlay Rows and do those in their place. Any questions just hit me up on my journal regarding anything.

[Lurker]

Physio.

Some chiros are ok, those who follow a more medical approach, but it's a gamble as others still follow the ridiculous notions the profession was based on. It's origins are pretty lol.

[Dr Squat]

Physio.

Some chiros are ok, those who follow a more medical approach, but it's a gamble as others still follow the ridiculous notions the profession was based on. It's origins are pretty lol.

That's pretty general. I go to a chiro once a week and it's great for prevention and working on niggles. Guy Trolove in Christchurch is outstanding. I see a massage therapist weekly also.

The key is finding a good professional.

[Chemo]

Sports clinic

I had a terrible run of physios, and professionals before rocking up to sportsmed in chch and having them sort me out, and they explored a lot of options to fix me up. I was stoked with the effort put in. Took a while thouigh.

I'd stress finding someone experienced in sports injuries and having them advise you on what to do about it. Like Doc said too, prehab>rehab wish i had the coin to get chiro and masuese to do some maintainance work for me.

[Snatchy McClean]

Personally I found chiro great for treating the immediate symptoms when I had back and neck stiffness issues. Followed up by a physio who taught me how to avoid the same problems occurring again.

Deep tissue massage is something I swear by also, particularly for people who get neck and back tension and sore hammys and forearms.

One thing I have had which I would never have ever again is deep needling / acupuncture.

[DinoTrainer]

try acupuncture if you have back muscle pain.

[chnd1]

try acupuncture if you have back muscle pain.

[zainnaeem]

No worries, google piriformis syndrome also and have a read. Do your issues with squatting/bending at the hip in a sitting position occur more if you have been doing things like Barbell Rows? If so google Penlay Rows and do those in their place. Any questions just hit me up on my journal regarding anything.

amazing info corey :nod: :twisted:

[gringo]

Had a similiar sounding back pain about a year ago. Went to an osteo about 4 times, havent had a problem since. Can finally squat. Apparently 1 hip was slightly higher than the other. Went to a chiro a few years ago but pretty sure he wasnt the full quid.

[lazyeye]

yeah, was thinking a osteo is probably better, chiros are mostly dirty hippies.....the whole idea behind it is bunk.

If you can push a disc back it with hand pressure or that hammer tool they use, as soon as you step off a curb or get back into your car, its going to come out again. the only way to fix it, is to take the stress off the structure with getting the joint back into alignment with stretching/strengthening and maybe some motor control drills if you have learnt a faulty movement pattern.

A common one is hitching a shoulder when reaching out to grab something, get one big trap and scapula starts tilting forward giving shoulder pain (possibly) simply stretching the upper trap/strengthen lower etc etc isn't going to do it as you have learnt to use it wrong.

My idea of a good practitioner is that they give you homework to do (whats a 30min session going to do when you spend the rest of the week undoing it) and actually ASSESS if its working, i will dump a client rather than keep taking a lazy persons money (i HATED doing rehab for workcover in Oz, at least 30% were faking)

So in regards to the OP, if you go see someone and they simply tell you to come back next week without giving you stuff to do on a daily basis, then you should probably move on...your seeing a revolving door, revenue gatherer.

[bantomon]

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