how long should a cycle go for?

[justhell]

Hey guys,

Im currently on week 14 doing a test enanthate cycle.

i have 1 dose left in a vial,im wondering if its worth my while starting another vial or not,(i could save it for my next cycle).

Is there a reason that the norm is 10 week,12 week and 15 week cycles?.

Is it worth my while going for longer?

Will it make it harder to restart my natural test, if i go for longer?

Im not gaining much more weight lately,just sitting steadily at around the same body weight.

I understand the basics of cycling,I would like to hear from someone with some experience and knowledge.

any advice would be appreciated.

THANKS

[samoan_muscle]

14 -15 weeks is ideal for long estered test.

Reason being, you dont see / feel the full affect of the test until the later weeks.

More advanced users may choose to go 20 weeks.

Really up to the individual. If this is your 1st or 2nd cycle I'd end it now.

How did you recover in previous cycles, if any?

[justhell]

14 -15 weeks is ideal for long estered test.

Reason being, you dont see / feel the full affect of the test until the later weeks.

More advanced users may choose to go 20 weeks.

Really up to the individual. If this is your 1st or 2nd cycle I'd end it now.

How did you recover in previous cycles, if any?

This would be my second cycle really as my very first was a dud. :cry:

But recovery went ok last time, just had a week or so feeling week but i kept at it and got better.

iv got the same pct this time,exemestane 3 weeks and nolva for 4 weeks.

[musclenz]

Use up the vial & then can it M8. Switch to your PCT in 14 days. Keep your nutrition up & training hard. Dont think about going off. Get past that head thing. Get plenty of rest as your recovery will gradually get bit tougher. How was the cycle overall in gains & strength?

[jimjim83]

just stay on, cruise then BLAST

[justhell]

Use up the vial & then can it M8. Switch to your PCT in 14 days. Keep your nutrition up & training hard. Dont think about going off. Get past that head thing. Get plenty of rest as your recovery will gradually get bit tougher. How was the cycle overall in gains & strength?

hi there mnz,

ok sounds good to me,il save my other 1 for next time :nod: ,im guessing that i cant gain much more off this cycle.

over all this cycle has been awsome,i went from 79.4kg to 91.7kg (tonights weight),and strength on benchpress,i was pushing 110kg for 8 reps on a good day,but now im pushing 140kg for 8 reps with last 1 or 2 assisted.

so i will have 1 more shot then can it,and i see what you mean about get past the head thing.

it will be good to lean up and get rid of this wee belly thats just appeared from nowhere. :pfft:

Thanks for the advice mnz.

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just stay on, cruise then BLAST

i wish jimjim its nice while on.

all good things have to end sumtime,i cant wait for my next cycle though,

im thinking deca & test. :nod:

Bring it on.

:grin:

[H.White]

Just out of interest bro how much test are you on? And when did you think it kicked in for you?? Keep up the good work man. Sounds like some good gains!

[justhell]

Hey H.White cheers man,i started on 500mg a week then bout week 7 i think i started doing 600mg a week.no sides at all :grin: ,but i think it was 3 weeks till i started doin heaver weights and surprisingly found stuff easy.

i did start with d-bol blue hearts for a month so it may have kicked in sooner,but its kind of gradual from memory?if you take a look in my journal i started 31st January i have probably written it down in there.

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[tomsammce]

Blue hearts u got are underdosed majorly... Good as fake bro, what brand of oils u using? Anyways yeah I'd agree with others. Sounds like some good weight and strength gains 30kg added to bench for same reps is pretty respectful!

[justhell]

Blue hearts u got are underdosed majorly... Good as fake bro, what brand of oils u using? Anyways yeah I'd agree with others. Sounds like some good weight and strength gains 30kg added to bench for same reps is pretty respectful!

Cheers tomsammce,

yea with the blue hearts ,there were a couple of times i did feel it,but not all the time.(good to know now,iv just had another 100 stopped,thanks customs). :shifty:

im using apolo test,and its pretty good as far as i know,i saw my weight keep going up most of the time.

love it.

[rovr4on]

Use up the vial & then can it M8. Switch to your PCT in 14 days. Keep your nutrition up & training hard. Dont think about going off. Get past that head thing. Get plenty of rest as your recovery will gradually get bit tougher. How was the cycle overall in gains & strength?

hey muscle whats the head thing? also whats your height justhell? must be stoked with no sides :grin:

[jimjim83]

Use up the vial & then can it M8. Switch to your PCT in 14 days. Keep your nutrition up & training hard. Dont think about going off. Get past that head thing. Get plenty of rest as your recovery will gradually get bit tougher. How was the cycle overall in gains & strength?

hey muscle whats the head thing? also whats your height justhell? must be stoked with no sides :grin:

I think he means the psychological side of coming off

[justhell]

hey muscle whats the head thing? also whats your height justhell? must be stoked with no sides :grin:

[Luigi]

14 -15 weeks is ideal for long estered test.

Reason being, you dont see / feel the full affect of the test until the later weeks.

solid advice

[Specter]

Use up the vial & then can it M8. Switch to your PCT in 14 days. Keep your nutrition up & training hard. Dont think about going off. Get past that head thing. Get plenty of rest as your recovery will gradually get bit tougher. How was the cycle overall in gains & strength?

hi there mnz,

ok sounds good to me,il save my other 1 for next time :nod: ,im guessing that i cant gain much more off this cycle.

over all this cycle has been awsome,i went from 79.4kg to 91.7kg (tonights weight),and strength on benchpress,i was pushing 110kg for 8 reps on a good day,but now im pushing 140kg for 8 reps with last 1 or 2 assisted.

so i will have 1 more shot then can it,and i see what you mean about get past the head thing.

it will be good to lean up and get rid of this wee belly thats just appeared from nowhere. :pfft:

Thanks for the advice mnz.

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just stay on, cruise then BLAST

i wish jimjim its nice while on.

all good things have to end sumtime,i cant wait for my next cycle though,

im thinking deca & test. :nod:

Bring it on.

:grin:

dont get suckered in to relying on the gear to much, I took 2 years off from it and at 92kgs I was benching 140kgs for 10 reps(My 1mr was 185kgs) without the aid of gear then....back into a cycle now and in my 10th week. But for advice like the other said..can your cycle now and save the rest.

[severe]

Excellent results, bro. Good mass and strength gains in 3 months.

[justhell]

Excellent results, bro. Good mass and strength gains in 3 months.

Thanks severe,i think eating lots is the hardest thing aye.

& Cheers to nzbb,heaps of good info and advice here.

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Good People

[H.White]

Was the acne on cycle different after being on roaccutane?

[justhell]

Was the acne on cycle different after being on roaccutane?

hell yes,last cycle i had it quite bad, back, neck & shoulders.

but after 3 months on oratane,compleatly cleared up. :grin: ,so this time round i had next to no pimples (may be the odd 1 or 2?) untill about week 10 on this cycle, and its at it worst now, and its still not too bad.14 weeks up tonight(just about to sneek in my last shot of test now).

oratane works wonders,but dont use it while on cycle or doing heavy weights man,cause iv still got injerys from pushing myself too hard when on oratane.(no one told me not to do heavy weights while taking oratane).

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[Sifo-Dyas]

I run a course for as long as it continues to get results without side effects.

[H.White]

Cheers mate, be interesting to see if it clears up fine after your cycle. Thanks for your help. Week 7 of my oratane, not bad so far

Was the acne on cycle different after being on roaccutane?

hell yes,last cycle i had it quite bad, back, neck & shoulders.

but after 3 months on oratane,compleatly cleared up. :grin: ,so this time round i had next to no pimples (may be the odd 1 or 2?) untill about week 10 on this cycle, and its at it worst now, and its still not too bad.14 weeks up tonight(just about to sneek in my last shot of test now).

oratane works wonders,but dont use it while on cycle or doing heavy weights man,cause iv still got injerys from pushing myself too hard when on oratane.(no one told me not to do heavy weights while taking oratane).

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[trainlikeafreak]

Cheers mate, be interesting to see if it clears up fine after your cycle. Thanks for your help. Week 7 of my oratane, not bad so far

Was the acne on cycle different after being on roaccutane?

hell yes,last cycle i had it quite bad, back, neck & shoulders.

but after 3 months on oratane,compleatly cleared up. :grin: ,so this time round i had next to no pimples (may be the odd 1 or 2?) untill about week 10 on this cycle, and its at it worst now, and its still not too bad.14 weeks up tonight(just about to sneek in my last shot of test now).

oratane works wonders,but dont use it while on cycle or doing heavy weights man,cause iv still got injerys from pushing myself too hard when on oratane.(no one told me not to do heavy weights while taking oratane).

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why cant you push hard while on oratane?

[trainlikeafreak]

i on have 10mg a day which is f*ck all. should this make a difference to lifting?

[justhell]

Im not 100% sure my lifting injurys were caused by the oratane,but thats the only thing i can put it down to.

my training partner was pushing me quite hard at the time.

iv still got a problem behind my knee,cant do heavy heavy leg curls,and i still get bloody sore forearms (hurts to hold).

i did go up to 40mg oratane ed, for 1 week in summer and that was unbearable in the hot sun.(got wicked rash round my neck,sweating/working,not good)

But these might work differently for you?

i guess its trail and error,side effects are different for everyone.

[justhell]

i on have 10mg a day which is f*ck all. should this make a difference to lifting?

na i dont think so???