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In a way you are right Jimjim, they're spending $300 odd to keep the kid happy with the KFC when with that money they could actually get proper help and get him eating again. Sure it is sad but I mean surely they haven't tried "everything"

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starve the little c*nt! its human nature to eat and drink whats in front of you if there is nothing else available. its exactly the same as these homos who feed their dogs one particular type of food cause thats all their dog 'likes'.... but kfc skin and fish batter is pretty funny LOL poor guy

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yeah who let it run for 12yrs before saying sumthing!!

almost like the parents shud be pulled up for abuse!!!

he's lucky he aint dead eating that shit for that long. was on close up and said that he went to hosiptal last yeat for heart problems.

being autistic wont help. but still! pretty bad

waste of food too, all that chicken meat and fish every day for 12yrs! being thrown away

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The kids a vegetable they didn't say he was autistic either they said he was starved of oxygen at birth. What struck me as odd was that they said he developed an aversion to good food after crushing up his medicine and putting it in the food. Well no shit pills crushed up taste fucking terrible so why not use that same logic and apply it to kfc and taint it with something? I suppose they are worried due to his brain damage that he will choose to starve to death. Clearly this poor person has no mental concept of whats good or bad for him he's a barely functioning human who would probably as cruel as it sounds have been better of if he had died as a baby but then again I suppose if he is happy then who really cares. Some quality of life this kid has.

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I reckon that's child abuse

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Man you guys are being harsh on the poor kid's poor parents. Obviously not a normal situation and they're trying to help. Due to his mental state it's pretty clear he will starve himself if he doesn't get his chicken skin. I think the argument ov instinct to survive falls apart with that sort ov disability. In the "wild" someone like him wouldn't survive long. Fortunately we live in a society where we can look after the "weak" and try to improve their quality ov life.

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I reckon that's child abuse

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Man you guys are being harsh on the poor kid's poor parents. Obviously not a normal situation and they're trying to help. Due to his mental state it's pretty clear he will starve himself if he doesn't get his chicken skin. I think the argument ov instinct to survive falls apart with that sort ov disability. In the "wild" someone like him wouldn't survive long. Fortunately we live in a society where we can look after the "weak" and try to improve their quality ov life.

lol get real mike... you honestly think if this kids parents didnt give him chicken skin he would starve himself... highly unlikely and even if he did he would end up in hospital on a drip and drugs before he died and i guarantee he wouldnt starve himself again as even the stupidest person wouldnt forget the pain of starvation. we arent being harsh on his parents... the buck stops with them they are the ones who are mentally weak, gave into his demands for kfc early on as it would have been an easy way out for them (give him wat he wants and he will shut up) and now its spiralled out of control. and after watching that clip society isnt looking after or improving anything for him.

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Fortunately we live in a society where we can look after the "weak" and try to improve their quality ov life.

Human life is meaningless. We are no more important than any other living organism. We are hardwired to eat, shit, f*ck and reproduce. The concept that a human life is worth more than an ant's because of our greater conciousness is bullshit. We surround ourselves with this illusion that our lives are so important and what we do has great meaning but it is a fiction we create to keep ourselves from losing the plot. (<--- see that play on words 8) )

I don't understand how it is "fortunate" we can prolong the life of someone barely receptive to their surroundings anymore than we can prolong the life of a worm.

Where is his quality of "life"? If the blind will to keep yourself alive at all costs was removed from your programming would it seem so important to you to prolong the life of a barely functioning human being or a functioning one for that matter?

The argument that I wouldn't jump off a bridge to prove my point is senseless. I can't fight my biology, I'm simply speculating. That is the only difference between us and bacteria. Our higher conciousness (what is so special about that by the way). To a higher being, our level of thought would be comparable to a bacteria's anyway.

I wrote this quickly and my thoughts are scattered. The main thing that irks me is this concept that our ability to prolong life is somehow for the greater good. We don't "deserve" to live longer, we simply exist.

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I reckon that's child abuse

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Man you guys are being harsh on the poor kid's poor parents. Obviously not a normal situation and they're trying to help. Due to his mental state it's pretty clear he will starve himself if he doesn't get his chicken skin. I think the argument ov instinct to survive falls apart with that sort ov disability. In the "wild" someone like him wouldn't survive long. Fortunately we live in a society where we can look after the "weak" and try to improve their quality ov life.

lol get real mike... you honestly think if this kids parents didnt give him chicken skin he would starve himself... highly unlikely and even if he did he would end up in hospital on a drip and drugs before he died and i guarantee he wouldnt starve himself again as even the stupidest person wouldnt forget the pain of starvation. we arent being harsh on his parents... the buck stops with them they are the ones who are mentally weak, gave into his demands for kfc early on as it would have been an easy way out for them (give him wat he wants and he will shut up) and now its spiralled out of control. and after watching that clip society isnt looking after or improving anything for him.

If you take chicken skin away from a 3y/o and replace it with vegetables, roast beef and potatoes the kid is not going to sit there and starve himself to death.

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True but they made that age/intelligence comparison as a simple way of putting across his intellectual handicap to the audience. He isn't actually able to be equated to any age groups intelligence level simply because of the difference between his brain and an average 2or3 year olds brain. His brains fucked part of it died when he was born due to a lack of oxygen.

I wouldn't go so far as to bet on him getting hungry enough to eat anything. Just look at people with anorexia nervosa not that you can compare him to someone with that disease but it just goes to show what can happen when someones brains not working right.

Also got ethical things to consider like in his frail condition if he does go without food he will not last as long as someone who started out healthy. The stress from not eating could kill him.

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If you take chicken skin away from a 3y/o and replace it with vegetables, roast beef and potatoes the kid is not going to sit there and starve himself to death.

inb4 potato is a vegetable

True but they made that age/intelligence comparison as a simple way of putting across his intellectual handicap to the audience. He isn't actually able to be equated to any age groups intelligence level simply because of the difference between his brain and an average 2or3 year olds brain. His brains fucked part of it died when he was born due to a lack of oxygen.

I wouldn't go so far as to bet on him getting hungry enough to eat anything. Just look at people with anorexia nervosa not that you can compare him to someone with that disease but it just goes to show what can happen when someones brains not working right.

Also got ethical things to consider like in his frail condition if he does go without food he will not last as long as someone who started out healthy. The stress from not eating could kill him.

Didn't actually watch the whole vid so unsure what you are assuming and what was actually said. Regardless, you could create a million different scenarios. I can't see the harm in putting healthy food in front of him and have some chicken skin nearby if he starves himself for longer than is safe.

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Fortunately we live in a society where we can look after the "weak" and try to improve their quality ov life.

Human life is meaningless. We are no more important than any other living organism. We are hardwired to eat, shit, f*ck and reproduce. The concept that a human life is worth more than an ant's because of our greater conciousness is bullshit. We surround ourselves with this illusion that our lives are so important and what we do has great meaning but it is a fiction we create to keep ourselves from losing the plot. (<--- see that play on words 8) )

I don't understand how it is "fortunate" we can prolong the life of someone barely receptive to their surroundings anymore than we can prolong the life of a worm.

Where is his quality of "life"? If the blind will to keep yourself alive at all costs was removed from your programming would it seem so important to you to prolong the life of a barely functioning human being or a functioning one for that matter?

The argument that I wouldn't jump off a bridge to prove my point is senseless. I can't fight my biology, I'm simply speculating. That is the only difference between us and bacteria. Our higher conciousness (what is so special about that by the way). To a higher being, our level of thought would be comparable to a bacteria's anyway.

I wrote this quickly and my thoughts are scattered. The main thing that irks me is this concept that our ability to prolong life is somehow for the greater good. We don't "deserve" to live longer, we simply exist.

Jeez, that got deep fast.

I do agree with you. I believe in determinism and that "conciousness" is an illusion. Our thoughts, ideas and decisions are merely the product ov chemical reactions based in the brain and fundamental laws ov physics, in which the low level cause and effect chain could be traced back to when the universe began.

We have the ability to be undoubtedly the highest being in our universe with technological breakthroughs, but we will always be limited by our physical domain. To become a true "higher being" you need to have true free will in which you must have to transcend the physical restrictions ov the universe. Whether this it is possible to exist outside a physical universe or not, who knows. By technological breakthroughs specifically I mean in AI, in which it is theoretically possible to increase the capacity ov the human brain by a near unlimited amount. Once this is hit, human advance will be greatly exponential and we may be able to comprehend the "meaning ov life".

I had a dream the other night and I was in the middle ov a giant hall, the roof ov the hall collapsed and I watched it come down on myself in slow motion. As I believed it was real, I literally thought my life was going to end. Others around me were running and screaming but in the short period ov time it took I had accepted my death and I sat calm and reflected on the beautiful moment before blackness, knowing that life is an illusion and that there was nothing I could do anyway and that whatever "I" am (i.e. a network of neurons) was to be recycled back into the stars. I woke up with my heart racing slightly but I was proud ov my reaction in that situation.

But obviously this is far too lower level for the current human to comprehend and there's no point dwelling on that stuff, as you say, we can't fight our biology. I wouldn't say there's anything less intelligent/shameful about having a "blind will" to keep yourself alive as you imply. As well as empathy for others in a bad situation. So you can hardly relate this to the thread.

As for the kid, all the information we have on him is from a 6 min video. He is badly wired, he will eat that shit or he will starve himself. The parents are obviously trying to reach out for help. Do your own research about him and prove it wrong otherwise take it for what it is. There is no point arguing about it based on theories about how he will respond to situations. All the people ragging on the parents are assuming a lot.

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(a) You went to primary school in Motueka.

(b) You are leading a revolution against the Oxford University Press to change the spelling of of.

© You are trolling everyone with a story that the bar slipped while you were doing Skullcrushers, causing a mental affliction similar to dyslexia where your brain interprets the letters "ov" as of and you are puzzled why I keep talking about the spelling of a word that looks perfectly fine to you.

(d) I am being really insensitive and you recently had a stroke which wiped the spelling of several words from your memory ov which ov is the most ovious because it is a preposition.

RE your dream. It really surprises me you have considered this exact same scenario! Either it is a common thought or we think about a lot of similar shit. I don't remember a dream where I was confronted with the decision to agonise over my fate or calmly accept it and bask in the serenity of the moment but I have conciously thought about it a few times.

Initially I came to the conclusion that I would instantly recognize I was doomed and enjoy my final moments completely at ease. Recently however I thought about tiling the roof of the 3 storey mansion my gf flats in. There is a rope tied about my waist and the other end is attached to a guy on the other side of the roof top sitting in a chair, eating a sandwhich, ready to pull me back up if I slip (yes we are assuming there is nothing else the other end of the rope could be fixed to and he is heavy enough to not be pulled down with me). He really needs to take a piss but we have been working for a few days and I have never slipped so he decides to un-tie the rope from his waist and go take a leak instead of bothering me. Ofcourse I slip and when I fall all I feel is a rage towards the stupid motherfucker who couldn't do one stupid fucking easy thing right. I don't think I would come to terms with my situation so easily if I knew I was dying because of something so stupid/simple and in such an inglorious fashion.

In the case of a collapsing building (lets say 911) I would calmly watch everything cave in around me (assuming I knew what was happening before I was crushed) because I am dying in dramatic fashion and lots of other good-looking, intelligent people with fulfilling lives are dying with me.

What I'm saying is the situation counts. Would you happily accept your fate if you were tied and suspended by a geeky-Saw-mastermind-wannabe who was lowering you inch-by-inch arse-first on to a steel, 3ft dildo and you had no way of escaping?

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