Clen

[ajmitchell]

Sitting just under 10%BF and want to get lower. Diet and training is all in check but am struggling to get in any lower.

Would clen be of any use for a short period ??

[Optimass]

Clen is good at any stage. How do you know your diet is in check?

[ajmitchell]

Am precise with the quantities and measure everything.

Sit at 20% below maintenence 3 days and maintenence for 1 day.

Cardio 6 times per week 1st thing. Weights 4 days per week.

[thatwaslight]

will you be running any aas during the use of clen?

[ajmitchell]

Have not used AAS before.

Am interested if Clen can be used on own or only with a cycle ?

[thatwaslight]

It can be catabolic to muscle so your best to run something along side it, clen is a strong drug and would hate to run it on its own.

[Chemo]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

[Chemo]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

[WANABJAKD]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

first of all you dont know what your talking about, so dont embarrass yourself.

clenbuterol is anabolic and has the ability of increasing protein while reducing fat content. - there is research to back this up

clenbuterol is not synergistic with testosterone, i think you need to google the term synergy. clenbuterol causes fat loss by agonising the b2 receptor causing you to incease your body temperature(and a few other things).

testosterone on the other hand causes fat loss through lypolysis by freeing up fatty acids in the form of triglycerides.

[HarryB]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

first of all you dont know what your talking about, so dont embarrass yourself.

clenbuterol is anabolic and has the ability of increasing protein while reducing fat content. - there is research to back this up

clenbuterol is not synergistic with testosterone, i think you need to google the term synergy. clenbuterol causes fat loss by agonising the b2 receptor causing you to incease your body temperature(and a few other things).

testosterone on the other hand causes fat loss through lypolysis by freeing up fatty acids in the form of triglycerides.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz you're right about how it manifests itself by stimulating your b2 receptors unlike andrenal agonists and it also stimulates your sympathetic nervous system but it is not anabolic. The studies which would show it is are on cows and horses and at doses that would quite frankly put a person in hospital! Stop embarassing yourself.

[soundsgood]

You've hit the nail on the head there Harry.

Most of the studies you quote from WANABJKD use either animals or sedantary/elderly/sick people for their test patients. The drugs bodybuilders use are going to react somewhat differently for people who are on bodybuilder diets and training regimes.

Thats why its important to listen to REAL WORLD ADVICE, from people who have used these drugs, for good or for bad, as opposed to 'embarrasing yourself' by quoting regurgitated internet nonsense.

[Chemo]

first of all you dont know what your talking about, so dont embarrass yourself.

Embarrassed? nawwww son. If i learn something by being ignorant, and get schooled...thats another thing in my arsenal.

and ah 80kgs, after 3 cycles, fkn tren and some other shit? Ah what bitch? Come at me bro.

I know how both test and clen work individually to burn fat. I also know what i feel and or have seen. I have heard of this synergy thing, its a like a electricity retailer or some shit right?

BTW Test increases the expression of b2 cells/receptors so im guessing this is synermagistic with clen. Jus sayin.

[samoan_muscle]

You've hit the nail on the head there Harry.

Most of the studies you quote from WANABJKD use either animals or sedantary/elderly/sick people for their test patients. The drugs bodybuilders use are going to react somewhat differently for people who are on bodybuilder diets and training regimes.

Thats why its important to listen to REAL WORLD ADVICE, from people who have used these drugs, for good or for bad, as opposed to 'embarrasing yourself' by quoting regurgitated internet nonsense.

Fullas bet me to it!!!

The studies I've read referencing Clen being anti-catabolic were conducted on mice or rats.

Wanabjakd resembles a little mouse so I can understand why he thinks the study applies to him.

[startinfromscratch]

You've hit the nail on the head there Harry.

Most of the studies you quote from WANABJKD use either animals or sedantary/elderly/sick people for their test patients. The drugs bodybuilders use are going to react somewhat differently for people who are on bodybuilder diets and training regimes.

Thats why its important to listen to REAL WORLD ADVICE, from people who have used these drugs, for good or for bad, as opposed to 'embarrasing yourself' by quoting regurgitated internet nonsense.

Fullas bet me to it!!!

The studies I've read referencing Clen being anti-catabolic were conducted on mice or rats.

Wanabjakd resembles a little mouse so I can understand why he thinks the study applies to him.

:pfft: :pfft: :pfft: :pfft: :pfft: :pfft:

[thatwaslight]

Again just proving how WORTHLESS your opinion is, fucking lol everytime you post you get owned

[samoan_muscle]

first of all you dont know what your talking about, so dont embarrass yourself.

clenbuterol is anabolic and has the ability of increasing protein while reducing fat content. - there is research to back this up

clenbuterol is not synergistic with testosterone, i think you need to google the term synergy. clenbuterol causes fat loss by agonising the b2 receptor causing you to incease your body temperature(and a few other things).

testosterone on the other hand causes fat loss through lypolysis by freeing up fatty acids in the form of triglycerides.

Agonising? :?

[startinfromscratch]

WBJ, are you related to Moe? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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[tomsammce]

ramy... come at me!! u minature clen rat!

[musclenz]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

Thank God someone knows what they are talking about

[musclenz]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

first of all you dont know what your talking about, so dont embarrass yourself.

clenbuterol is anabolic and has the ability of increasing protein while reducing fat content. - there is research to back this up

clenbuterol is not synergistic with testosterone, i think you need to google the term synergy. clenbuterol causes fat loss by agonising the b2 receptor causing you to incease your body temperature(and a few other things).

testosterone on the other hand causes fat loss through lypolysis by freeing up fatty acids in the form of triglycerides.

f*ck off M8 you are pissing me off with this sort of advise

[Chemo]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

Thank God someone knows what they are talking about

PHD in bro science cuz, dont hate

[Sifo-Dyas]

Sitting just under 10%BF and want to get lower. Diet and training is all in check but am struggling to get in any lower.

Would clen be of any use for a short period ??

Clen is great for someone in you position and condition. the anabolic effect of clen is subjective and always brings about healthy debate.

I like to think of Clen as being anti-catabolic. I have always had great results with retaining mass wile calorie restricted on clen. I have also been able to gain some mass wile calorie restricted on Clen (shock horror). The great stimulating effects from clen force me to push boundaries in my training wile calorie restricted and this increase in training intensity can add to the anti-catabolic effect.

Go for it mate. You will get great results from Clen in your position :-)

[Chemo]

Just clen by itself sifo?

[musclenz]

My first "cycle" was 3 weeks of clen, without AAS.

Was interesting.

On paper its supposed to be muscle sparing, and a drug to increase LBM.

But the majority of the BB community vouch for it being catabolic.

I did the 5 days on 2 off cycle, and compensated for the catabolism with a lot of protein, I put on 1kg and didnt change in BF. In fact I felt it didn't really attack my bf so much. No sweats, no super thermogenic symptoms. Perhaps all that whey spiked my insulin too much. Or my fat intake was too high. I was on a low carb diet.

I went back and looked at international boards (shoulda done that to begin with. durp) And most were saying that the fatloss, clen is well known for is coupled with a test base, and that those thermogenic symptoms I expected to experience were really only present when clen was run alongside test. Sweating, heat etc.

I got the shakes, so it was definitely working, not sure on how accurate the dosage was. After that I wouldnt run it solo myself, but im willing to give it one more try with a solid AAS base

Thank God someone knows what they are talking about

PHD in bro science cuz, dont hate

My Bad Chemo. I was not getting at you Bro. Your comments are bang on. Its our M8, WBJ, that my frustration is being delivered at.

[Sifo-Dyas]

Just clen by itself sifo?

Yes indeed Chemo. I have documented proof that for me Clen did indeed have an anabolic effect.

My second comp clean of all enhancements I was dieting hard and losing far to much mass to the percentage of bodyfat. At 4 weeks out I began clen at a bodyfat of 6% and from the time I started taking clen to before I began dehydrating I had lost 2% bodyfat and gained just under a kg of weight on the scales.