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Dorian Yates

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Lets not forget that Dorian was a very heavy "supplementer" as well.

State the obvious and ignore the fact that the HIT principles actually apply better to naturals who aren't supplemented and so need to take even greater care with recovery times etc etc etc

It's not just about muscular recovery either you also need to be sure you allow your CNS time to recover from one workout to the next.

Too easy to say the drugs are the difference between one person's success and another's lack thereof. I suppose it provides a handy excuse for underachievement?

Maybe focus on the positives we can get from a training principle and how someone like Dorian applied that particular strategy with great success.

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Lets not forget that Dorian was a very heavy "supplementer" as well.

State the obvious and ignore the fact that the HIT principles actually apply better to naturals who aren't supplemented and so need to take even greater care with recovery times etc etc etc

It's not just about muscular recovery either you also need to be sure you allow your CNS time to recover from one workout to the next.

Too easy to say the drugs are the difference between one person's success and another's lack thereof. I suppose it provides a handy excuse for underachievement?

Maybe focus on the positives we can get from a training principle and how someone like Dorian applied that particular strategy with great success.

"thumbs up" :nod:

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Quit kidding yourself HomoB, the guy was all drugs....

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HomoB?

Hmmm you're a hard man NZmusclemonster, I wonder how hard you are in person or you just talk shit hiding behind a pc?

Maybe you should read up on him a little bit, see how thorough his approach to his training and nutrition was. Or just keep on with the name calling, that seems to work for you too..

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Actually yeah. Gee I wish he'd told me everything he was taking like he did you.

The problem with your attitude towards the drug issue is that you fail to see great things can be achieved with proper nutrition and good training. Instead you dismiss things as being all about drugs. I'd say it has far more to with genetics than drugs. And yes receptor uptake is genetic too.

People read what you write and dismiss a whole style of training. If it was all about drugs then bodybuilding would be a whole lot easier.

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Actually yeah. Gee I wish he'd told me everything he was taking like he did you.

The problem with your attitude towards the drug issue is that you fail to see great things can be achieved with proper nutrition and good training. Instead you dismiss things as being all about drugs. I'd say it has far more to with genetics than drugs. And yes receptor uptake is genetic too.

People read what you write and dismiss a whole style of training. If it was all about drugs then bodybuilding would be a whole lot easier.

stop kidding your self bro, of course he was taking steroids and lots of them probably at a guess i would say for at least 10 years or more. all the big boys have and do. doesn't mean the way he trained was ineffective

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Actually yeah. Gee I wish he'd told me everything he was taking like he did you.

The problem with your attitude towards the drug issue is that you fail to see great things can be achieved with proper nutrition and good training. Instead you dismiss things as being all about drugs. I'd say it has far more to with genetics than drugs. And yes receptor uptake is genetic too.

People read what you write and dismiss a whole style of training. If it was all about drugs then bodybuilding would be a whole lot easier.

stop kidding your self bro, of course he was taking steroids and lots of them probably at a guess i would say for at least 10 years or more. all the big boys have and do. doesn't mean the way he trained was ineffective

He wasn't saying he didn't use gear, he was sayin' that saying the only reason why he got big was from gear usage is just ingnorant

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Oh brother :roll:

I've read more than most people would have about Dorian. Met him in person and had a chat with him. Can you claim this as well Harold?

The fact is, with the amount of drugs that he was taking he could have advocated any training style.

LOL! NZMM, in an interview he said that he wouldnt have won MR O as many times as he did if he did regular volume training like most of the other pros. He found what worked for him... Sure he was on the celltech but not like you take it and get to that stage, if that was the case there'd be guys like him everywhere...

Talk is cheap bro, and you seem to do a lot of it.... Just sayn

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nzmm is dorians best friend... knows him like the back of his hand and on most mornings can be found fucking feltching his dog who hes named dorian... UR A SIIIICCCCKKKKKKKKOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

let me guess nzmm, ur drug free? :roll:

and fucking LOL @ had a chat with dorian... hes prob got a script full of answers in his head for tossers like you so you can walk away feeling like you have a new friend.

oh brother yourself!

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nzmm is dorians best friend... knows him like the back of his hand and on most mornings can be found fucking feltching his dog who hes named dorian... UR A SIIIICCCCKKKKKKKKOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

let me guess nzmm, ur drug free? :roll:

and fucking LOL @ had a chat with dorian... hes prob got a script full of answers in his head for tossers like you so you can walk away feeling like you have a new friend.

oh brother yourself!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Actually yeah. Gee I wish he'd told me everything he was taking like he did you.

The problem with your attitude towards the drug issue is that you fail to see great things can be achieved with proper nutrition and good training. Instead you dismiss things as being all about drugs. I'd say it has far more to with genetics than drugs. And yes receptor uptake is genetic too.

People read what you write and dismiss a whole style of training. If it was all about drugs then bodybuilding would be a whole lot easier.

stop kidding your self bro, of course he was taking steroids and lots of them probably at a guess i would say for at least 10 years or more. all the big boys have and do. doesn't mean the way he trained was ineffective

He wasn't saying he didn't use gear, he was sayin' that saying the only reason why he got big was from gear usage is just ingnorant

My bad, misunderstood that one. well i don't know that much about dorian yet, so i guess i will stay out of this one, 8)

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used train at temple, and met DY a few times while there. IMO his training technique is limited to the genetically disposed to that form of training. I have tried it a few times and everything started to fall apart on me (joints etc). saying that I wasn't on anything while doing it so maybe my recovery wasn't fast enough. Last time I saw him take a PT session I was pretty sure he was doing the old and tried 4x10 etc etc. :/

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I'm lost why does NZMM have such an issue with Yates and his drug use? HIT training works regardless if you are using or not.

Personally it's my standard style of training and has shown good results since I started on it a couple years ago.

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used train at temple, and met DY a few times while there. IMO his training technique is limited to the genetically disposed to that form of training. I have tried it a few times and everything started to fall apart on me (joints etc). saying that I wasn't on anything while doing it so maybe my recovery wasn't fast enough. Last time I saw him take a PT session I was pretty sure he was doing the old and tried 4x10 etc etc. :/

awesome M8 to get into the temple one of the old shrines of BBing. Yeah DY's HIT is hard on the joints & you really need to be geared up. Seen some of his vids training pros & others & yes its traditional stuff mixed in but he seems to demand high intensity & I guess thats what he is known for. Didnt he just spend some time with Evan Centopani & man he's made some great progress with his physique in last 12 months?

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Looks like I mistakenly walked into a Dorian Yates circle jerk.

As you were gentlemen.

You probably just killed another interesting thread because someone called you out, I was learning something I didn't know about DY thanks

While everyone was thinking about Dorians training u were thinking about men in a circle jerking off lol

Psych101 says while u were writing that u were thinking about it, and u r your own thoughts. Actually most of what u post is related to men in a sexual way, perhaps a male model forum would be more up your alley so to speak.

Don't be shy about your thoughts of other men it's ok, it's just not related to weight training at all.

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You probably just killed another interesting thread because someone called you out, I was learning something I didn't know about DY thanks

While everyone was thinking about Dorians training u were thinking about men in a circle jerking off lol

Psych101 says while u were writing that u were thinking about it, and u r your own thoughts. Actually most of what u post is related to men in a sexual way, perhaps a male model forum would be more up your alley so to speak.

Don't be shy about your thoughts of other men it's ok, it's just not related to weight training at all.

Ironic that you would call me gay, when you sound like the kind of guy that would drag his balls through 10km of broken glass just to hear Dorian fart through a walkie talkie.

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