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atm I got

some yucky protein

optimen multi vitamin

fish oil

creatine mono

stocked up on

Fat burners

bulk DAA

more mulivitamins

thinking of getting

some protein powder

maybe a natty test booster (I got half a bottle of Erase and AX that I might look into starting again soon)

cucumber juice

hell yea

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Whey Concentrate

Amino Acids

SciVation Xtend

Glucosamine + Condroitin

Multi Vitamin

Waxy Maize

Dextrose

Karbolyn

damn PD, thats a stack :D

what bccas do u use and when do u take them

Seems like a lot when it's committed to paper haha

That'd be my Xtend, just post WO although they are supposed to be for pre and intra

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Whey Concentrate

Amino Acids

SciVation Xtend

Glucosamine + Condroitin

Multi Vitamin

Waxy Maize

Dextrose

Karbolyn

damn PD, thats a stack :D

what bccas do u use and when do u take them

Seems like a lot when it's committed to paper haha

That'd be my Xtend, just post WO although they are supposed to be for pre and intra

oh ok sweet yeah i dont have a clue what half that stuff is :pfft:

im not currently taking anything pre wo just a big feed 2 hours before and a banana 30 mins prior so im gonna start on some bccas. ill try those ones for a start. do you have any dextrose pre wo?

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important to get in complex carbs at 4hours or so before your workout... then another lot 2hours before workout

most people dont eat enough carbs for training, surprising how many you need when you work it out (complex that is)

also may eat way too much protein. only 30g per meal (ie every 2-3hrs) can be use by the body. and there is no scitenfic proof that more than 2g per kg body weight has any effect or benifit.

the body does not use excess protein as energy, it gets stored as body fat.

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important to get in complex carbs at 4hours or so before your workout... then another lot 2hours before workout

Timing doesn't really matter, as long as you have enough stored glycogen to get through the workout you'll be fine.

only 30g per meal (ie every 2-3hrs) can be use by the body.

:doh: Really? The body may have different digestion and absorption rates for different protein sources etc, but that doesn't mean that if you eat more than 30g of protein in one meal, anything over 30g will be wasted. It will just take longer to digest and be released, you'll still be getting a relatively steady stream of aminos into the blood long after a big meal (longer than 2-3 hours).

the body does not use excess protein as energy, it gets stored as body fat.

If the excess protein leads to excess calories then yes it will. If the body still needs to get energy from somewhere and there's plenty of protein around it can and will use the protein for energy via gluconeogenesis. Our bodies will use its stores (glycogen, fat, muscle) when necessary for energy, so why would it only use the stored form of protein (muscles) and not the freely available protein (aminos in blood after large protein meal) for energy?

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one of the young guy here is using Underground Muscles Anabolic modualtor with the IGF -1 product they have. Has his whey PWO with dextrose and eats pretty clean. Have noticed good growth in the last 2 months on him even though hes not pushing much more than he was. Must have plenty of $ cos its not cheap.

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important to get in complex carbs at 4hours or so before your workout... then another lot 2hours before workout

most people dont eat enough carbs for training, surprising how many you need when you work it out (complex that is)

also may eat way too much protein. only 30g per meal (ie every 2-3hrs) can be use by the body. and there is no scitenfic proof that more than 2g per kg body weight has any effect or benifit.

the body does not use excess protein as energy, it gets stored as body fat.

Really?

My first feed of the day, (post-workout by the way) contains 133g protein.

And I train on nothing more than 2 black coffees (no sugar).

2g/kgBW would give me about 170-175g per day, yet I'm routinely taking in 300-350g...and I don't seem to be getting fatter.

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^ well said Ronin. So Mike you are saying guys like SG, Tom, Bobsta etc are wasting there $ by having over 30g protein at once :roll: Paaaallllllllleeease!

Bro I'm a relatively small guy and taken in about over 200g protein a day over 6 meals.

Current supplements:

Whey protein blend

Joint formula

Orange juice with my shake post w.o

Rice, kumara, spinach, other veges, fish (fresh/raw), red meat, chicken

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The biggest protein myth is that you can only digest 30 grams of protein at one time. Find out what's wrong with this belief and just how much protein you need. This is a common question. I also get variations such as, how much protein can you digest at one time?

There are two ways to answer this, because there really two questions being asked.

1) How much protein can the digestive system physically absorb into the bloodstream from a meal?

And the MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION...

2) How much protein can you body actually utilize?

The answers...

1) About 95% and higher, unless you have some type of digestive system malfunction.

So if you get convinced by supplement companies to drink a 42g protein shake in 5 minutes, you'll still probably absorb at 38 or more grams of that protein.

Your muscle growth is not limited by the amount of protein you can DIGEST or ABSORB.

Your muscle growth IS LIMITED by the amount of protein that your body can utilize for protein synthesis.

So the answer to #2...

2) A lot less than you think.

You really don't need 40, or 30, or probably even 20g of protein per meal to keep your protein synthesis humming along. See Nutrition Help Expert Brad Pilon's post on "How Much Protein Do We Really Need"

Any protein that your body can't use for growth will be shuttled into a process where it is broken down (de-aminated: meaning the nitrogen is removed from the molecule and it becomes a carbon skeleton) to be used in energy pathways.

Now, there are benefits for eating extra protein (in my opinion) when dieting, mainly that it helps to suppress appetite.

But the bottom line to the question I am asked almost everyday is...

a) Your body can digest and absorb almost all of the protein you eat without problem.

b) Your muscles can only do so much with protein...the muscle growth process is RARELY, if ever limited by the amount of protein we consume. Almost all of us can easily get enough protein for maximum muscle growth without the need for eating 50g of protein 6 times per day. Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, and Gunter Schlerkcamp excluded, of course.

Overall, I'd think twice about the need to slam down a 40-50g protein shake...just think of the children and puppies you'll save by not gassing them out with protein farts.

Real food should cover all your protein needs.

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Random question but doesn't a Banana have lots of sugar, therefore not best pre workout due to minor crash maybe??

i dont think your going to crash and burn from eating a banana :pfft:

i see it as a good source of energy for my workout.

everyone has a different opinion on everything. there are millions of bodybuilding experts that all seem to contradict eachother on every subject. best to do your own research, be open minded and find out what works best for you.

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