This years Novice Rule Change

[steak]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

[OnlyHuman]

How does it effect people who competed in the past but been inactive for a few years?

[Old Bull]

How does it effect people who competed in the past but been inactive for a few years?

Previously registered lifters cannot enter comps as a Novice anymore after a spell away, they must register with their local and National Federation before they can enter either Noice or Regional competitions.

[OnlyHuman]

How does it effect people who competed in the past but been inactive for a few years?

Previously registered lifters cannot enter comps as a Novice anymore after a spell away, they must register with their local and National Federation before they can enter either Noice or Regional competitions.

Good to know OB!

Thanks.

[tomsammce]

so OB or anyone in the know. novices who have competed before the rule i.e sat 5th of march. can they still do one as a novice? or does the rule count for all novices in the past?

[steak]

Pretty sure it is from Jan 1 2011. That would be in line with new weight classes and rules.

[tinytraps]

So if people have already done one novice this year, they have to wait another year before being able to compete in a novice event? IMO its a silly rule, people should be able to do the novices without this "you do one now sign up" mentality. Signing up to the nzpf and apa for maybe one or two events a year is silly. Im not signing up this year I dont think, only the BBRO for me.

[nate225]

So if people have already done one novice this year, they have to wait another year before being able to compete in a novice event? IMO its a silly rule, people should be able to do the novices without this "you do one now sign up" mentality. Signing up to the nzpf and apa for maybe one or two events a year is silly. Im not signing up this year I dont think, only the BBRO for me.

Bro,

It's one novice comp ever without joining from my understanding? i.e. you'll have to sign up to lift at BBro?

I understand as an ex-NZPF lifter I'll also have to sign up if I want to do the BBro.

[Best Bench]

Will the BBro count? Is it run by Central Districts (part of NZPF) or Powerhouse (a gym)? At Eastside we have run a number of gym comps that are organised by the club and not on NZPF calendar. I wouldn't think these would count as a novice comp.

I did suggest to a member of NZPF exec commitee that they should have a different class of membership for novices to get them in the system with minimal fee but restrictions on the comps they could attend, no records, use of equipment etc

I think the main driver for the rule change is getting people on the drug register, but I think we also need to think about growing the numbers.

[Dr Squat]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

Was this rule change made at the AGM? Or it is something that the NZPF has decided that it is a good idea?

[Dr Squat]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

Was this rule change made at the AGM? Or it is something that the NZPF has decided that it is a good idea?

[steak]

Not sure on that one bro...youd hope it was at AGM level. I'll see what I can find out? OB will know.....

[Best Bench]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

Was this rule change made at the AGM? Or it is something that the NZPF has decided that it is a good idea?

Miutes from the AGM are on the NZPF website and no mention of change to novice criteria. I actually asked last year where the 3 comps as a novice rule was documented as I have never read it anywhere. I think that rule was spread by word of mouth and never codified.

[Best Bench]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

Was this rule change made at the AGM? Or it is something that the NZPF has decided that it is a good idea?

Miutes from the AGM are on the NZPF website and no mention of change to novice criteria. I actually asked last year where the 3 comps as a novice rule was documented as I have never read it anywhere. I think that rule was spread by word of mouth and never codified.

[HumanPerformance]

So I would take it that if a novice sets a record in his first comp that it will not be recognised as such?

[steak]

Only registered lifters can set records that will be recognised.

[HumanPerformance]

Yeah thought as much,thanks for that big guy.

[PeterDolan]

Can you compete as a novice at BBro?

[tomsammce]

personally i think its a silly rule and only gonna f*ck there funding up. are the nzpf getting pressure from sparc to test everyone even novices?

one comp as i did isnt enough. if i could do 3 then finish i would be satisfied. there will be lots of guys who will do a comp who use aas then sign up just because they wanna do another couple and they will get tested and bang another positive for nzpf.

for myself, i would love to do another couple of comps but having to sign up to a drug testing programme just doesnt appeal to me. everyone knows i will test postive and thats fine with me im open about it and to be honest usually the people who have the biggest problem with positive tests and make the big deal are on the fucking shit themselves lol funny really. however i dont plan to compete long term in powerliftign and for me to get tested and get a postive test would just be selfish to those ppl in the future who want/need this funding.

i think ill have to organise my own comp at my gym..... maybe.

just on a side note, now that i have been on stage for bodybuilding done a strongman comp and now a powerlifting. i have to say the powerlifting was the most fun by far.

[red machine]

It seem abit over the top, its only novice, i reakon anyone should be able to give it a go and do as many as they want, its not like you win anything or can set records its just about having ago, seeing if you like it then you can join up if you want to take it to the next level and compete properly, pretty much defeats the point of have a "novice" comp now to some degree.

Will also drop the numbers eg 40 + lifters at the comp on sat, now how many of them are going join up? maybe 2-8max as paying $125 smackers just to do another novice comp is madness (at beginner level)(all good when ur doing it serious) , so id say the next novice in aucks will have....10ppl? hardly big growth for a great sport, wer if they have another chance to do another novice thet many get a better feel for it and the chances of they signing up are much greater...any way all good, hopefully big steak will put something on for us to have a play around this year for under $125

[Dr Squat]

Just to hand from the NZPF

"NOVICE LIFTERS: The NZPF have changed the rules this year in regards to novice lifters, you can only lift in one novice competition before you have to register with NZ Powerlifting and Auckland Association and be on the drug testing program. You can still lift in novice events once you have registered."

Simply really...You can do 1 novice comp then IF you want to continue on with the sport you have to register and be available for drug testing. Fair and level playing field :clap:

You will have to register with your regional assoc and then with NZPF. This costs eg Auckland and NZPF about $80 per year.

Was this rule change made at the AGM? Or it is something that the NZPF has decided that it is a good idea?

Miutes from the AGM are on the NZPF website and no mention of change to novice criteria. I actually asked last year where the 3 comps as a novice rule was documented as I have never read it anywhere. I think that rule was spread by word of mouth and never codified.

Unconstitutional? I wonder why the sport struggles? :roll:

[Viking Power]

I must agree there Dr Squat 43 turn out last weekend that's a good cash cow for the NZPF why wouldn't you hold more though out the year and aim for bigger numbers and use some off that money shipping around some off the best in the country for workshop days to help the Novice lifter become a registered lifter in time i can see the frustration :roll: what the country really needs in another federation to help sharpen up this one.....but on the bright side there are people in this one trying hard and my hats off to them but shit I don't think its rocket science guys hold more Novice comps get more people involved created a vibe don't put limits on how many you can enter you'll still paying an entry fee more money will come in this way than what registered lifters would put in if the focus was to push novice comps you can't break records so i can't see the problem?

some will argue and say well its a drug free sport we are promoting and we have no control over Novice events fair enough........ but as stated your lifts as a Novice don't let you win anything or hold any record but NZPF would do better for funding and even if there was an odd one or two Novices who turn up on the gear personally who cares as a Novice its about learning and if winning or being beaten by one off these people was your concern join up........

[Dr Squat]

For the record I think it is a good rule. Loaded lifters have no place in the IPF. Novice comps are a means of attracting new lifters for the CPA at least.

I do find it hard to believe that the NZPF thinks it can just invoke rules? Maybe their constitution allows this? I would doubt it?

[Shutupandsquat]

Can you compete as a novice at BBro?

Anyone wanna answer this? I'd like to know, too. Even though, I'm not sure if being a novice in Sub juniors even matters...

[Viking Power]

For the record I think it is a good rule. Loaded lifters have no place in the IPF. Novice comps are a means of attracting new lifters for the CPA at least.

I do find it hard to believe that the NZPF thinks it can just invoke rules? Maybe their constitution allows this? I would doubt it?

Yes agree about loaded lifters that's fine no issues and I don't encourage it don't get me wrong my point was simple it was a my personal view it means nothing if you smash 340kg bench in a novice comp its a no record and you win nothing for it was more my point,,,,,

But sorry mate I disagree with the one Novice comp and join up rule I think more thought needs to go into this......... on the other hand I could agree if there were two sorts off registered fees one for competing in NZPF / IPF one for Novices comps all year only and one for lifters using equipment they would need to have different pricing structures in my opinion ....as there is a huge difference at present between a Novice lifter and a registered lifter in capabilities