PCT and coming off to have kids

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Thought this would be a good thread to start and find out other peoples views and success stories around this topic. Some points to consider are

*PCT outline and products used/duration

*Tapering and avoiding HCG

*Time it took to reagin fertility

*other supplements used

My personal Pct protocal has always included

hcg 1500 iu 3xper week

Clomid 100 mg 3 weeks 50mg 3 weeks

nolva 20mg every day.

this is done for 6 weeks following a 10-12 week.

results from the above outline have allowed me to make a good recovery and keep gains, however, fertility is an issue that has not been properly addresed.

feel free to reply. train hard

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I had 3 cycles in a row before deciding to try and it was easy as.

I came off at Xmas time after low dose cycles of 1ml Sus and 1ml Deca a week, just used nolvadex and low dose of Mesterolone (Proviron). Over Xmas I tool oral test capsules for gym workouts they were 50mg tabs I think but after going thru liver prob only 25mg u know. They were all gone by January

So we tried in April which is 3 1/2 mths off and conceived...easy as that, ive never used HCG or others.

[Optimass]

Only ever tapered off cycle.

Stop 6 months then started trying. Took approx 3 months to get pregnant - this was approx 5.5 years ago > and have 4 and 2.5 year old. Second time around only took a few weeks from my wife coming off the pill.

I have been natural ever since :grin:

[tooeasy]

Your protocol looks solid. I have tapered off then used HCG, Clomid & Femara. I have also come off cold turkey. In both instances it took approximately 12 weeks for mt Test levels to rebound.

What have your weekly doses averaged for a standard course in the past? How long have you been on cycle since the last break from gear?

The biggest thing for me was to make sure I dealt with the emotional roller coaster from having such low natural test levels while you are waiting for everything to come back on line. So clomid would be good in More than one way.

I see from other posts that you are a seasoned competitor? Are you planning on having more than one kid? Are your bodybuilding goals and aspirations quite high?

Although coming off gear occasionally is very beneficial to the body and it does help with growth in the grand scheme of things, the timing can be conflicting to your plans for the future...If this is the case I would advise having your sperm put on ice when you come off the first time so you don't have to come off again at times that might compromise your bodybuilding future.

This service is not at expensive as is sounds and is worth considering if you want compete in bodybuilding at the top levels internationally as well as having a family.

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thanks for the replys guys. I have not considered using proviron for fertility, as my understanding was it is an androgen therefore would impair natural test production?? please correct me if i am wrong.

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Your protocol looks solid. I have tapered off then used HCG, Clomid & Femara. I have also come off cold turkey. In both instances it took approximately 12 weeks for mt Test levels to rebound.

What have your weekly doses averaged for a standard course in the past? How long have you been on cycle since the last break from gear?

The biggest thing for me was to make sure I dealt with the emotional roller coaster from having such low natural test levels while you are waiting for everything to come back on line. So clomid would be good in More than one way.

I see from other posts that you are a seasoned competitor? Are you planning on having more than one kid? Are your bodybuilding goals and aspirations quite high?

Although coming off gear occasionally is very beneficial to the body and it does help with growth in the grand scheme of things, the timing can be conflicting to your plans for the future...If this is the case I would advise having your sperm put on ice when you come off the first time so you don't have to come off again at times that might compromise your bodybuilding future.

This service is not at expensive as is sounds and is worth considering if you want compete in bodybuilding at the top levels internationally as well as having a family.

Thanks for that reply mate. I have been considering freezing the swimmers. this would definatly cut the need to come off so often lol. in the past my cycles have been fairly moderate. have done a few higher than comfortable cycles. At present the products im using are the titan clomid and nolva, both are great and have used them every time i come off. however have never come off to regain fertility. the general timeframe seems to be 12 weeks or so. this is acceptable.