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Restarting journal.

Monday's workout - Back/Tris

Lat pulldowns overhand

8 x 54

8 x 60

8 x 60

Bent-over rows

10 x 40 overhand

10 x 45 underhand

10 x 45 overhand

10 x 50 underhand

Overhead vertical DB....single hand press?

10 x 7 (right arm)

10 x 7 (left arm)

8 x 20 (both arms)

5 x 12.5 (right)

5 x 12.5 (left)

Tuesdays Workout - Chest/Bi

BB bench press

10 x 60

8 x 65

7 x 70

6 x 75

BB curl

10 x 20

10 x 25

8 x 30

6 x 35

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Wow I'd do lots of things to alter this split. (or completely reconstruct it)

But if you're determined to do it, you might want to put legs on Tuesday, since there's quite a bit of bodypart overlap from Monday and your current Toesday. The fatigue from the previous day (Monday) will/might limit your poundage on Tuesday. I'd also build up more volume for legs or increase leg training frequency.

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I really like the Back/Tri and Chest/Bi routine split. But, like EU, I usually separate them at opposite ends of the week. Something like...

Mon: Back/Tri

Tues: Shoulders (there's a bit of overlap with triceps here, but it's hard to avoid completely)

Thurs: Legs

Fri: Chest/Bi

I'd also be tempted to throw in a bit more volume, possibly. What's your training history like?

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Urineman - I know I know....but when the site crashed last week I lost the suggested splits you and Ama had given me.

I had to start with something but realised after Tuesday the order was wrong.

Will be going back to the proper order on Monday.

Also I didn't want to do too much on the legs first time up - too painful! They always recover better from the second workout, despite the greater intensity/volume. So next week I'll add in some calves and some hamstring curls etc.

Psuedo - This week was very much a "getting back into it" week.

In the past I've tended to work without a regular pattern but separated my workouts into Chest/tri/shoulders, Back/bi, Legs.

The suggestion to split the pushes and pulls up has felt good this week.

EDIT: Ama's suggested split was...

1 Chest and Bi's

2 Legs

3 Back and Tri's

4 Delts and Traps

......but I seem to remember ExpensiveUrine suggesting Back/Tri on Mondays

It would seem that the above split would put the bigger workload at the the start of the week which seems logical to me...

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Restarting journal.

Monday's workout - Back/Tris

Lat pulldowns overhand

8 x 54

8 x 60

8 x 60

Bent-over rows

10 x 40 overhand

10 x 45 underhand

10 x 45 overhand

10 x 50 underhand

Overhead vertical DB....single hand press?

10 x 7 (right arm)

10 x 7 (left arm)

8 x 20 (both arms)

5 x 12.5 (right)

5 x 12.5 (left)

Tuesdays Workout - Chest/Bi

BB bench press

10 x 60

8 x 65

7 x 70

6 x 75

BB curl

10 x 20

10 x 25

8 x 30

6 x 35

Hey Phantasm... good to see you posting up a journal. Look forward to seeing your progress!

So you're starting a new program.. just curious, whats your diet like at the moment?

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Typical diet is...

Breakfast

Muesli

Peaches

Yoghurt

Milk

Coffee

Morning

Protein Shake

Yoghurt

Lunch

Chicken

Rice

Veges

Afternoon

Protein Shake

Workout

Protein Shake

Dinner

Whatever the flatmates cook, usually reasonably healthy.

And what are your goals? And your stats? Man I seem nosy :pfft:

It doesn't seem like you eat that much.... I think I eat more than you :oops: Do you workout in the morning or later in the day?

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Typical diet is...

And what are your goals? And your stats? Man I seem nosy :pfft:

It doesn't seem like you eat that much.... I think I eat more than you :oops: Do you workout in the morning or later in the day?

I probably should eat more....the daily intake would be around 2500 Cal i would think.

Not sure what my weight is...one scales said 84.8....the following week another set said 88.9, the day after the same scales said 90.5.

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lol yeah, scales are funny like that (I hate them). Taking measurements is a more accurate gauge on your progress, and measuring bodyfat with calipers is pretty good too, but that can still be a little off sometimes. Anyways, just with your diet, its great that you're getting in your 6 meals a day. And you're getting in some protein in every meal of the day... which is awesome.

Just with your breakfast... what kind of yoghurt do you use? Alot of yoghurts are LOADED with sugar (as are many brands of muesli...). Have you ever considered plain unsweetened yoghurt with a scoop of protein powder? Heaps nicer imo. Or even oats with a scoop (or 2) of protein powder is another great option... just to up your protein intake for the start of your day.

I'm not sure where your workout fits in, but immediately after, you'd want to get in some protein (optimally whey protein) and high GI carbs (note: a little salt in conjunction with carbs PWO is good believe it or not... increases glycogen synthesis).

Just another note... you could probably replace a few of those protein shakes with a proper meal. Just in my case... I prefer a small meal to a protein shake... but hey, if you're happy with the shakes, then its allll goooood. 2500 cals sounds about right. Good stuff :D

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what kind of yoghurt do you use?

Light, natural.

The muesli isn't a particularly nasty one, but will probably phase it out at some stage, especially with the weather getting colder.

I'm not sure where your workout fits in
Lunch

Chicken

Rice

Veges

Afternoon

Protein Shake

Workout

Protein Shake...

Just another note... you could probably replace a few of those protein shakes with a proper meal....

I will....when I have the time and the money. At the moment it's a lot easier to whip up a 500 calorie/55g Protein shake than cook up another meal.

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Monday - Chest and Biceps

7am

HIIT - Stationary cycle.

4 min warm-up

4 min workout

- 20 sec sprint

- 10 sec relax etc.

4 min cool-down

8.30am

Breakfast

Muesli

Milk

Peaches

Yoghurt

Small protein shake

11am

340g rump steak

2 slices bread (Freyas Soy and Linseed)

1.15pm

1 Chicken breast

1 cup rice

1 cup Veges

2pm

1 cup watermelon

3.30pm

Protein Shake

Workout

BB Press

10 x 65

8 x 70

7 x 75

6 x 77.5

DB flys

10 x 10 (immediately following BB Press)

E/Z Bar Curls

10 x 15 (+ bar)

8 x 20

7 x 25

6 x 27.5

Hammer Curls

10 x 10

8 x 12.5

6 x 15

Protein Shake

Dinner

Spiral Pasta

Mince

Veges

So....how much does an EZ curl bar weigh?

Should I be including the bar weights in my measurements?

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I don't include the bar weight when recording my workouts. In fact, if it's a barbell (or similar two-sided machine), I'll only count the weight on one side. It's not the "proper" way to do it, but I can always work out the total amount later, and it saves me having to do maths straight after a heavy lift!

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I include the olympic bar weight of 20kg in my bench press, mostly because it's an easy constant.

Dumbells for instance (I presume) are a total weight, rather than what's been added onto the little bar.

I guess in the end though, it's all about how much you improve rather than numbers on a page.

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Legs (ouch!)

Squats

10 x 60

8 x 70

7 x 80

6 x 90

Straight leg Deadlifts

10 x 65

8 x 75

6 x 85

Leg Press (old stack machine, assuming these numbers are pounds)

10 x 297

8 x 331

6 x 366

Hamstring Curl

10 x 25

9 x 30

8 x 35

What a great workout. Busted my gut big time.

My pants split twice during my second set of squats :pfft:

Ham curls were difficult. Couldn't adjust the bar length so it never felt like a natural arc for my legs.

Any other good hamstring exercises?

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Thursday

Back/Tri

Lat pulldowns (underhand)

42 x 10

54 x 8

60 x 7

66 x 6

Seated Row

35 x 10

45 x 9

55 x 8

65 x 7

Bentover BB rows (overhand)

10 x 60 (bad form, too jerky)

8 x 50

8 x 50

Tri pushdowns

44 x 10

56 x 10

68 x 9

74 x 7

DB military tri press

8 x 10 each arm

5 x 12 each arm

The tricep pushdowns were a mystery.

74kg was the bottom of the stack. Is that a small stack?

I've never done that before.

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