mike-311 Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 Work out so far as of 10/07day 1 chest - incline bench 10-5 reps 70kg x 3 sets - decline bench 12-8 reps 70kg x 4 sets - flat bench 8-5 reps 90kg x 4 sets - flat flyes 12 reps 16kg d/bells x 4 sets day 2 shoulders, traps - seated smith press 7-4 reps 60kg x 4 sets - standing lat raises 12 reps 15kg d/bells x 5 sets - D/bell shrugs 20-10 reps 30kg or as grip allows to failure x 4 sets day 3 back - dead lift 5-2 reps 100kg x 5 sets - seated row 10 reps 90kg x 3 sets - d/bell row 10 reps 25kg x 4 sets day 4 legs - squats - leg curl - calf raises day 5 arms - tri skull crushers / rope & bar pull downs / dips - alt cable bicep curl - forearm d/bell curls DIET25-30g protein every 2-3 hours hopefully making up 200g by end of day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poos_n_wees Posted October 22, 2007 Report Share Posted October 22, 2007 New journal Good luck with your goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted October 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2007 THANX MAN!!!24/10/07BACKDeadlift 105kg x 3-4 reps x 5 sets 110kg x 2 reps x 3 sets maxSeated Row 95kg x 5 reps x 4 sets (fatigued by deads)Dumbell row 20kg x 12 reps x 3 sets eachYesterday back. not gonna do shoulders straight after chest day am starting to wonder if Im putting to much strain on shoulders.Might turf the D/bell rows in favour of a lite weight dead at end of heavy Dead episode, but using mainly upper back and pulling my shoulders way up and back then holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Cos I went heavier on my Deads I managed to exhaust my delts also.sooooo My shoulder press was lite this week, but I think still just as effective.Down from 5 reps of 60kg to 5 of 55kg max at 6-7 setsfinishing with standing 13kg D/b lat raises till failure then 35kg d/bell shrugs till fail.Im now thinking of going back to putting my Back seasion after my shoulders, or somehow in corperating my delt routine into my chest day, just means I be to exhausted to do any real weight on em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted October 30, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Loosing strength in my chest can only push 90kg x 3-5 reps max on bench.sitting around 70kg on inclinefinished wif lite session on shoulders with 50kg seated smith press and standing lat raises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2007 72.5kg seated smith press up 10.5kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted November 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2007 Deadlift 4 x 100kg 2 x 110kg 1 x 120kgup 10kg from last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Alright sorry to say dude but your program looks all over the show at the moment. If you still want to do Powerlifting/Strongman, drop that split and go on a tried and true program, made by the pros who have more experience than you or I.Looking at your last "back" session, it consisted of a double and a single of deadlifts... 1) You are relatively just over a beginners level, you shouldn't be doing singles and doubles just in the average workout. It will tax your central nervous system like nothing else - could account for the decrease in weights on the bench. The general rule is that max singles are good for strength tests, but not very good for making progression by. Doubles the same but to a lesser extent. Triples are fine. 2) Where is the assistance? You will get almost nothing out of just deadlifting with that volume. Total tonnage for that workout was 740kgs, sweet f**k all. Again, total tonnage will increase when you don't do singles and doubles. 3) Another point, I don't know if you've just been slack in your entries or what but I am yet to see a single squat workout.Take a week off or have a deload (drop the weights, the volume or both) and then jump into a program like 5 x 5: http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5 ... ar_5x5.htmPeople at your level especially need some sort of progressive overload system. You should get a lot out of linear progression from 5 x 5.Again, leave the program making to the experts. I'm just telling it like I see it brother, don't be offended or anything. We've all been there - I was there earlier in the year no doubt, but I sorted it and never looked back. There is an unlimited number of great programs you can use out there, you don't have to make your own. (note: this is moreso in powerlifting than bodybuilding).Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 11, 2007 Report Share Posted November 11, 2007 Good points well made, Mr Zero. :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Alright sorry to say dude but your program looks all over the show at the moment. If you still want to do Powerlifting/Strongman, drop that split and go on a tried and true program, made by the pros who have more experience than you or I.Looking at your last "back" session, it consisted of a double and a single of deadlifts... 1) You are relatively just over a beginners level, you shouldn't be doing singles and doubles just in the average workout. It will tax your central nervous system like nothing else - could account for the decrease in weights on the bench. The general rule is that max singles are good for strength tests, but not very good for making progression by. Doubles the same but to a lesser extent. Triples are fine. 2) Where is the assistance? You will get almost nothing out of just deadlifting with that volume. Total tonnage for that workout was 740kgs, sweet f**k all. Again, total tonnage will increase when you don't do singles and doubles. 3) Another point, I don't know if you've just been slack in your entries or what but I am yet to see a single squat workout.Take a week off or have a deload (drop the weights, the volume or both) and then jump into a program like 5 x 5: http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5 ... ar_5x5.htmPeople at your level especially need some sort of progressive overload system. You should get a lot out of linear progression from 5 x 5.Again, leave the program making to the experts. I'm just telling it like I see it brother, don't be offended or anything. We've all been there - I was there earlier in the year no doubt, but I sorted it and never looked back. There is an unlimited number of great programs you can use out there, you don't have to make your own. (note: this is moreso in powerlifting than bodybuilding).Good luck.Im not offended at all and you are completely right.I have been trying to do this on my own for a long time, It is only this year Ive tried to include some kind of mass building diet ( which is going horribly wrong)I have f*ck all money to spend on food so buying Protein powders each week is impossible.Plus I find it really hard to maintain a good appetite to be able to force down food every 3 hours.I really need a good programme which is easy to do and understand.My progress even tho I have ben busting my arse 5 days a week for almost 3 years is piss poor to say the least.The lifted weights only go up a little in months, my strength seems to dwindle.As for legs, I am yet to do anything serious with them cos my night job demands I been on my feet 12+ hours and the DOMS created by a leg work out becomes to much to bear.This year after being in hospital for the second time, I have really begun to loose hart in what I have been working so hard to achieveGoal 1 - Extremely basic and cheap 7 day meal plan.Goal 2 - Basic work out programme for good overall strength and size.Problems *Biceps lagging and weak*Stomach is large and tubby*Legs are under developed and weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 As for legs, I am yet to do anything serious with them cos my night job demands I been on my feet 12+ hours and the DOMS created by a leg work out becomes to much to bear. This is a wimpy excuse. Get over it! Being on your feet and moving is the very best thing for DOMS. Believe me, a desk job which allows the muscles to seize up is much worse.I don't think your shoulders are "small and narrow" at all. In fact, I would have said they looked pretty good. Forearms are looking big too. I think there is decent size in your biceps, but that will become a lot more obvious when you cut - the separation between shoulder and bicep will be more apparent, accentuating the bicep peak. You could work triceps a little more, particularly the inner head to get a nice under-arm sweep going. That will add more size to the arms too. All the overhead tricep exercises will be good here.I would suggest doing a gentle cut. It will get rid of your "large and tubby" stomach (which is not that bad anyway - I've seen much worse!) and it will show the muscle better, which is always good for the self esteem.As for food, I think you need to work out a plan to get hold of cheap sources of protein. I hope you like tuna and eggs! For value-for-money though, you just can't beat whey protein. I know you say you can't afford it, but long-term I think that's going to be the cheapest food source you'll get. I would suggest having a look at the bulk whey protein concentrate (much cheaper than the isolate, and just as good for you). If you can't afford, or don't want, the full 20kg sack put out the call here, and I'm sure you'll find someone willing to split it with you. That works out at less than 50c per 30g serve.There will always be obstacles in your way - the key is to think creatively and find ways around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 I may have put you guys astray a little.I may have only been posting my one rep max's.But that was by no means the entire back work out.Before I reach those max's I start at a middle weight and move up slowly, doing 5 reps of each added weight until I max out.I do this mainly with my back, shoulders and sometimes chest.I hope to start doing something similar with my legs.thanks Mike Zero for the link I have printed out that work out and am starting it this Monday. and the training Primer provided is awesome. So a real big thanks.Thanks Pseudonym for your encouragement. However I have to say that you cant tell in those pics but I already do a pretty quelling Tri routine, and they are quite developed, in fact more so then my biceps..LOLI have also put together a diet that i think may be OK for work nights.I havent done anything for down time yet.Here is what I come up with please critique it, but bear in mind I am on a tight budget and constantly moving, so I only have time for one sit down at night.1600 up and shower / whey shake. / vege shake raw ingredients Water / carrot, Celery, orange, apple, banana etc Or steak and eggs 1730 work 1930 Meal (Meat and vege) 2130 1 tin tuna / 1 cup oatmeal shake2400 5 boiled egg white / 1 cup oatmeal shake0230 tuna and rice or vege shake0530 Home / whey shake.0600 Gym 0800 Bed whey shake and oatmealTotal protein in 16 hours 210gmThis also gives me 8 hours sleep a day, which is 3 hours more then before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Yep, that looks pretty good to me. It may require a bit of tweaking as you go, but I think that's a good place to start from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2007 Exercise Sets x Reps Details Monday Squat 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)Bench 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple) Barbell Row 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)Assistance: 2 sets of weighted hypers and 4 sets of weighted sit-ups Wednesday Squat 4x5 First 3 sets are the same as Monday, the 4th set is repeating the 3rd set again Incline or Military 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 Deadlift 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 Assistance: 3 sets of sit-ups Friday Squat 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8 Bench 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8Barbell Row 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8 Assistance: 3 sets of weighted dips (5-8 reps), 3 sets of barbell curls and 3 sets of triceps extensions (8 reps) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Squat KG--REPS40 x 570 x 575 x 580 x 582.5 x 5Calves90 x 10120 x 15140 x 20-------------------------------------------------------------Incline / bench60 x 1070 x 575 x 580 x 582.5 x 5Flat bench60 x 1070 x 580 x 585 x 585 x 5---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Barbell Row60 x 565 x 570 x 575 x 580 x 5--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Finished with lite Trisskull crushers 15 x 30kg x 4 setsrope p/dwns 12 x 90lbs x 5 sets--------------------------------------------------------------------------------I know this isnt exactly the same as the programme, but I feel is a great start and I feel so much better for doing my legs for the first time in weeks, which is why I went real lite with em.I also found a spotter to help with my chest and shoulder days.We are just working out when to meet as we are both shift workers....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted December 11, 2007 Report Share Posted December 11, 2007 Nice workout :nod: Have you considered finding a new job, if possible? Sounds like your current one is messing with what you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Nice workout :nod: Have you considered finding a new job, if possible? Sounds like your current one is messing with what you want to do.Cheers Mike, gonna give it a go, haven't had a change in workout for quite some time. to be honest the workout seems kinds weird to me, but Im intrigued enough to give it a crack.As for my Job, I may change one day, but for now it keeps me motivated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Squat40 x 550 x 560 x 560 x 5-------------------------------------------------------------------------------Military Press (Smith)------------------STANDING40 x 12...........................................40 x 860 x 5 ........................................... 45 x 560 x 5 ............................................45 x 560 x 5Standing DB Lat raises11 x 1013.5 x 516 x 516 x 5-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Deadlift60 x 580 x 590 x 5100 x 5Lat P/dwn/ inward grip54 x 566 x 578 x 578 x 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 Alt Cable curl18 x 1224 x 1030 x 1036 x 542 x 5Standin BB curl30 x 10 x 2sets35 x 537.5 x 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2007 squat40 x 550 x 560 x 570 x 577.5 x 360 x 8Calves 90 x 10120 x 15150 x 20--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Incline Bench till failureFlyes and Incline flyes till failure--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Barbell rowNot done--------------------------------------------------------------------------------A few holes but am ironing out the bugsDiet is still solid but changing 25-30g protein either whey shake or mass gainer, eggs, tuna and clean carbs every 2.5 hours.Next entry End of January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bull Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hey MikeHows the training?OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Hey MikeHows the training?OBi think mike has left the forums...... :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted February 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Nope havent left guys, just had a break.Looking now to start again from the beginning and stick to the programme.Had some much needed time off as I went down to Otaki to pick up my Son and get in tonnes of swimming, sunburn and sand in me undies.My training has ben real lax, which i think was a good thing, as i think i was getting way too serious with it and leaving out all the fun. Not really 100% sure how Im gonna work it, but I may stick to the 5x5 programme just modified a bit to suit.Thanks guys for your support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Time to Rock and or Roll MO FO'S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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