slimjim Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 G'day all,I'm a new member to this forum.I'm a 27yo male, 5'10", 90kg, + - 12%bf. I've been training in the gym for approx 5 years typically doing a three day split for the last year, changing the routine every 2 months. Cardio load is approx 1.5hrs-morning & 1.5hrs-arvo, HR averaging around 150bpm.I feel I need to jump to the next level in training. I'm not wanting to compete in BB comps but need extra strength for my choosen sport - which is subject to random tests from drug free sport nz.Can anyone out there reccomend any supps that can raise my testosserone levels and or promote rapid muscle growth?I've tried tribulus based product with litlle success.P.S. Regarding fatloss pills, tried hotrox - they worked but are there any ephidrene based supps out there? I heard they were better?Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlor Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Ephidrene based fat burners are banned in most places now because they can have dangerous side effects and probably not worth the risk. If your dieting and doing 3 hours of cardio a day you shouldn't really have any problems.What sport do you play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeepsouth_nz Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 I would agree, sounds like you're doing enough cardio now (maybe too much for muscle growth/strength?!). Must be other factors that are preventing you from 'getting stronger' as you put it ie your diet OR the exercises you are doing OR the combination of sets/reps etc etc. Without knowing how 'strong' you are I would also suggest you need to bear in mind also being functional in your chosen sport and other related aspects such as flexibility etc. I would stay away from things that mess with your hormones, steroids or otherwise because they may alter your bodys natural chemistry longer term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Depending on your sport you might want to look at changing up your cardio.HIT cardio for instance, strong man stuff i.e. falmers walks, tyre flips and slead pulls. Sprints! These will all help to boost hormone levels and help you grind through it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogie2001 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 sorry buddy, from what i have tried in the past anything like trib or methoxy is a bit of a waste of cash. just nice herbals you may get from a TV shopping advert. eat and lift and that is it for natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Is methoxyflavone still around? At one time it and ecdysterone were being touted as the Next Best Thing, but I haven't heard about them in the last couple of years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Too much cardio.Try some HIIT instead.I never saw too many powerful long distance runners but I've seen quite a few powerful looking sprinters. :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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