NUTREX LIPO 6

[vracula]

HI guys i m new here have been lurking around for a few months now.finall thought i might add something here

i just got lipo 6 a week back and havent seen a huge change i have also gone really strict on the diet need to lose the belly fat.

however the pils get me all depressed for some reason im quite a jolly guy and these pills make me want to kill myself well not to that extreme but you get my point.

i went of it one day and checked and realised its the pils are depressing me out,i dont have a reason to feel depressed its really annoying.

anyone who is thinking of gettng these if you are a very anxious person or suffering from a mild depression please dont take these pills

as for me well im going to finish the bottle hell i paid $90 for it and thats adding to the damn depression.LOL.

i take two pills in the mornng before breakfast and the 2 pills before lunch.

[Cammo]

What's the point in taking the stuff if you're getting depressed on it - most people lift weights & exercise to feel good about themselves.

Your mental health is more important than a couple of % BF - You should stop taking the Lipo 6 & send it to me - I'll tell you if it works or not :wink:

[vracula]

What's the point in taking the stuff if you're getting depressed on it - most people lift weights & exercise to feel good about themselves.

Your mental health is more important than a couple of % BF - You should stop taking the Lipo 6 & send it to me - I'll tell you if it works or not :wink:

LOL nice try but i dont worry about it much now i know where its coming from.

[Pseudonym]

Wow, that's the second fat burner in a week that I've heard is causing depression. :?

Do you know what's in it, Vracula?

[Cammo]

I've used it before - didn't get depressed but did get a bit jittery the first few days - it has what they call "synephrine" in it - some kind of ephedra free stimulant.

See the Lipo6 label here

[vracula]

I've used it before - didn't get depressed but did get a bit jittery the first few days - it has what they call "synephrine" in it - some kind of ephedra free stimulant.

See the Lipo6 label here

thats the thing i havent felt jitters with it or felt hot like when i had hydroxy cut.I assume that since it is a thermogenic you are supposed to feel warm atleast

[vracula]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/youropi ... ionid=8541

ahahhahahahhahah see im not crazy see post number 3

what in gods name is nutrex trying to do to people ahaaahahhaahaha

[2guns]

is that an american site? they are over exagerating like hell! u dnt even get that bad side effects off pure ephedrine, they making this lipo6 stuff sound crazy.. :roll:

[Flex]

Lipo6 has yohimbine HCL in it which is banned in NZ. If anything yohimbine based products should help alleviate depression as it is a mild MAO inhibitor. What you probably don't want to do is use yohimbe with antidepressants, BZP/TFMPP, or stimulants as that may make you feel more of a comedown. MAO inhibitors cause elevated levels of dopamine, norepinephrine, and epinephrine and so when it wears off the user will normally have a bit of a low.

I would imagine that this is one of the main reasons it is banned in NZ, and this can cause mild anxiety due to over stimulation of the CNS. Other reasons why its not legally available OTC in NZ include - http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/HerbsW ... be,00.html:

Yohimbine may affect the way that the body eliminates water, which may worsen kidney conditions. Therefore, individuals with kidney diseases should avoid taking yohimbe and products made from it.

Men who have benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) should also avoid yohimbe and yohimbine due to the possibility that they may promote prostate enlargement and worsen the symptoms of BPH.

Yohimbe and yohimbine may affect the balance of neurotransmitters involved in maintaining emotional status. Therefore, individuals who have or who have had anxiety, depression, or mental illnesses should not take yohimbine.

Although yohimbe and yohimbine are not generally used by women, they may cause the uterus to relax, if taken by a female. Taking it while pregnant may result in a miscarriage. In addition, chemicals in yohimbe may damage a developing fetus. Therefore, pregnant women should avoid yohimbe and yohimbine.

Yohimbe and yohimbine may affect children more than adults. Since very small amounts of yohimbe have caused severe anxiety-like responses in children, it should not be given to children.

Caffeine increases the central nervous system stimulation effect of yohimbe and yohimbine. The combination may cause excessive nervousness and irritability, along with other signs of over-stimulation. In addition, the risk of a hypertensive crisis increases when caffeine and yohimbe are taken together. Caffeinated beverages such as coffee, soft drinks, and tea should not be consumed when taking yohimbe or yohimbine.

Yohimbe and yohimbine may enhance the effects of alcohol, leading to a feeling of intoxication with only a small amount of alcohol ingestion.

Drugs that block the enzyme monoamine oxidase (MAO) may interact seriously with tyramine, a chemical in that helps maintain blood pressure levels in the body. Tyramine is found in many beverages and foods including beer, red wine, aged or smoked meats, certain cheeses, sauerkraut, and yeast. Since yohimbine is a mild MAO inhibitor, a dangerous rise in blood pressure may result if it is taken with any food or drink containing tyramines.

[Cammo]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/youropinions.php?opinionid=8541

ahahhahahahhahah see im not crazy see post number 3

what in gods name is nutrex trying to do to people ahaaahahhaahaha

I think that dude must have some chicken stuck in his teeth - what an assclown :roll:

[fudoc5]

i think that the yohimbine is the key ingredient to the fat loss in lipo6. where did you buy yours from?is it a nz or us import,the nz version has no yohimbine in it where as the us version does. since you are not seeing any results i'm guessing it might be the nz lipo6 version that you have bought. i too have used up one bottle of lipo6 bought frm nz store and cant see much results.

does any one else agree?

[vracula]

i think that the yohimbine is the key ingredient to the fat loss in lipo6. where did you buy yours from?is it a nz or us import,the nz version has no yohimbine in it where as the us version does. since you are not seeing any results i'm guessing it might be the nz lipo6 version that you have bought. i too have used up one bottle of lipo6 bought frm nz store and cant see much results.

does any one else agree?

yupu there is no yohimbine in it which makes it really useless to be honest.the other ingredients do not have much reseacrh done on them.il see how it goes,if i keep losing the fat then its worth it once in a while.the depression doesnt bother me anymore since i know its from the pills it all goes away when i hit some gym metal while listening to heavy metal!

[Cammo]

I have a brand new container imported from the US that contains yohimbine 8) - I'll use it next year I think.

[fudoc5]

how did you get it?

[waldo]

i too have used up one bottle of lipo6 bought frm nz store and cant see much results.

Maybe your diet wasn't that good when you used the NZ version. I wouldn't make a sweeping statement like that. It's not like the added yohimbe is going to guarantee x amount % increase in fat loss. You have no way of quantifying it.

[fudoc5]

i too have used up one bottle of lipo6 bought frm nz store and cant see much results.

Maybe your diet wasn't that good when you used the NZ version. I wouldn't make a sweeping statement like that. It's not like the added yohimbe is going to guarantee x amount % increase in fat loss. You have no way of quantifying it.

# 8:00am: 1 cup of oatmeal

# 9:00am: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 10:00am:handful almonds

# 11:30am: 8 oz of chicken

# 1:00pm: 6 egg whites

# 3:30pm: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 4:30pm - 5:45pm: Weights then cardio - Right before training I take Lipo 6

#post workout shake-2scoops whey and honey in water

# 6:00pm: 8 oz of chicken with brown rice and 1cup veges

# 7:30pm: casein protein shake with whey

followed this for 8weeks strict,so diet is not really a problem for me. also if you look it up,yohimbine is actually the key fat loss ingredient in lipo6 and even biotest hot-rox and hot rox extreme. they have also taken out carnitex from lipo6 which is a l-carnitine tartrate which helps as a fat mataboliser.

[vracula]

i too have used up one bottle of lipo6 bought frm nz store and cant see much results.

Maybe your diet wasn't that good when you used the NZ version. I wouldn't make a sweeping statement like that. It's not like the added yohimbe is going to guarantee x amount % increase in fat loss. You have no way of quantifying it.

# 8:00am: 1 cup of oatmeal

# 9:00am: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 10:00am:handful almonds

# 11:30am: 8 oz of chicken

# 1:00pm: 6 egg whites

# 3:30pm: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 4:30pm - 5:45pm: Weights then cardio - Right before training I take Lipo 6

#post workout shake-2scoops whey and honey in water

# 6:00pm: 8 oz of chicken with brown rice and 1cup veges

# 7:30pm: casein protein shake with whey

followed this for 8weeks strict,so diet is not really a problem for me. also if you look it up,yohimbine is actually the key fat loss ingredient in lipo6 and even biotest hot-rox and hot rox extreme. they have also taken out carnitex from lipo6 which is a l-carnitine tartrate which helps as a fat mataboliser.

thats right yohimbine is the key ingredient in hitting that abdominal fat area (atleast that what they say it does)without it they shouldnt be calling lipo6 lipo6.

[Flex]

# 8:00am: 1 cup of oatmeal

# 9:00am: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 10:00am:handful almonds

# 11:30am: 8 oz of chicken

# 1:00pm: 6 egg whites

# 3:30pm: Optimum Shake - 2 scoops

# 4:30pm - 5:45pm: Weights then cardio - Right before training I take Lipo 6

#post workout shake-2scoops whey and honey in water

# 6:00pm: 8 oz of chicken with brown rice and 1cup veges

# 7:30pm: casein protein shake with whey

followed this for 8weeks strict,so diet is not really a problem for me. also if you look it up,yohimbine is actually the key fat loss ingredient in lipo6 and even biotest hot-rox and hot rox extreme. they have also taken out carnitex from lipo6 which is a l-carnitine tartrate which helps as a fat mataboliser.

So you did this 7 days a week for 8 weeks?

While not too bad a diet as far as the foodtypes go, the timing is all messed up. You have over 13 hours where you don't eat any protein. It kind of looks like a low carb/ high protein diet that you are following but then the meagre amount of carbs you eat half are at night. Other than the almonds you're eating, you have very little dietary fat in there. If you're on a low carb diet you need to add a high proportion of your calories from fats - good efa's like nuts and seeds, oils, avocado, salmon, olives etc, and some saturated fats - whole eggs, cheese, red meat etc

I haven't added it up and don't know your stats but I'd wager your calorie intake is actually a bit low. Do you sleep for 12 hours or something? Because your food intake is condensed into 11.5 hours of the day you've really just been starving yourself for the last 8 weeks so your body hasn't actually been in fat burning mode. You can't really blame the thermo's if that really is the exact diet you've been following.

If you don't mind me asking, who devised the diet for you?

[waldo]

thats right yohimbine is the key ingredient in hitting that abdominal fat area (atleast that what they say it does)without it they shouldnt be calling lipo6 lipo6.

Spot burning is a myth for a start, and by making a comment like 'at least that's what they say it does' kind of re-enforces mmy original point.

[Cammo]

Spot burning is a myth for a start, and by making a comment like 'at least that's what they say it does' kind of re-enforces mmy original point.

Yeah - everyone knows that to get rid of abdominal fat, you have to do lots of sit ups :pfft:

how did you get it?

I just ordered it from bb.com & it got through customs.

[fudoc5]

If you don't mind me asking, who devised the diet for you?

i cant afford a nutritionist so i do all my research trhough the library, bb magazines,and bb.com. i also ask and consult with local body builders about their own diets and compare it to mine to see how i could improve on it. the diet i follow is not detailed,but each protein shake has 40-50g carbs in it. reson why i eat most my carbs later in the day is because i work out late,hence i need the energy. cant say the diet is perfect, but if you could suggest any improvements would be greatly appreciated.

[waldo]

Dude, if you refrain from purchasing a bottle of Lipo 6, then you will be able to afford a nutritionist (they honestly aren't as expensive as you think) and the results you get will far outweigh the fatburners.

[Cammo]

Dude, if you refrain from purchasing a bottle of Lipo 6, then you will be able to afford a nutritionist (they honestly aren't as expensive as you think) and the results you get will far outweigh the fatburners.

Food's overated!

Supplements all the way!!!!

[fudoc5]

ive been looking around nz sites? does anyone know where i can get real thermos with yohimbine in it,such as lipo6,hotrox extreme,hydroxycut hardcore(not the aussie or nz versions? i was told there are still a few nz stores selling them? :shifty: yes,i'm aware that its prescription in nz, dont know why they even bother selling versions of these with out yohimbine in it

[Flex]

Don't get so hung up about yohimbine based products. It's not all that flash and it's no magic bullet. They tried it in the 90's and it never proved too popular, now they've added some fresh spin to it and it's going around again.

There are a few studies around showing that yohimbine can help with fat loss but at much higher doses than what you'll find in the majority of fat burners - at least 16mg per day, and in one study up to 0.4mg per kilo (i.e. 32mg at 80kg) of Yohimbine (not Yohimbe) per day. You'd need to take at least 10 caps of lipo6 to start getting close to what they use in studies.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... stractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entre ... stractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=...ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus

And this study showed absolutely no efffect at all with daily doses up to 43mg - I'm guessing here that the subjects weren't exercising though.

These studies were done in the late 80's and early 90's so it's not like Yohimbine's new - it's just that now ephedrine/ephedra is well and truly off the shelves the supplement companies need something else to push.