james123 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Here are some before after pics after my first 6weeks of lifting, If anyone could give a fat percentage estimate id be stoked. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 I wouldnt be worrying about body fat percentages dude you need to eat some food.Comparison are hard to make as all your photos are diffrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Yeah thats the thing ive been muching it down taking in 200grams of preotein everyday for the last six weeks im starting to get the feeling it just isnt enought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 photos??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oros Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 My high pro diet must be affecting my eye sight.......what photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 My high pro diet must be affecting my eye sight.......what photos?Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Looking thick dude, nice work.Definately improved in the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Fat percentage estimate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Eat, eat & then eat some more - don't worry about fat percentage - no point worrying about low fat % if there ain't any muscle under it.You need to work on your delts & lats - go heavy.... and eat lots.I pressure that you're not working your legs (lack of wheel shot gives it away).Post up your routine in a journal and you'll get some good advice, tips & tricks from the more experienced members here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 eat lots of carbs as well, not just 200gm protein mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 As Cammo says, you've got to eat to grow. Eat relatively clean foods though... no point in pigging out on crap - that only makes more work for yourself when you have to lose the fat later. Have a look at this topic - PnW explains the basics of diet very well.Delts and lats are excellent muscles to concentrate on. Building these creates a V-shaped torso, which gives the illusion of more size than you really have. Don't forget all the other muscles too, of course!Finally, don't be discouraged if you don't see much difference in the before/after shots at this stage. Six weeks is probably not enough to see much progress, especially if you're still learning the ropes on diet and exercise. Realistically, I think 12-week intervals would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Serious reply:You can't really tell much change aside from the chest from the before and after pics and it's looking much fuller.And as everyone else said, remember to eat! You won't get anywhere if you're constantly worrying about your bodyfat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Hay thanks for the advice guys one other question, when im lifting i can lift to failure and be absolutely exhausted by the end of my workout and hurt like hell. But when i wake up the next morning I feel fine but am to scared to go workout again cause of all this overtraining talk, I am young just turned 17 so could it be i recover alot faster than an adult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Got this from Big J Chest - Biceps : bench press x 3 sets dumbell press x 3 sets (inclined) or bench dumbell press x 3 sets seated bicep curls x 3 sets hammer curls x 3 sets concentration curls x 3 sets Back - Triceps : bb bent over rows x 3 sets widegrip pull ups x 3 sets overhead extensions with dumbell x 3 sets dips x 3 sets close grip bench press x 3 sets Shoulders : shoulder press < with dumbells or barbell > seated x 3 sets dumbell raises to the front of you.. like holding dumbells in your hands extending them upwards to be in line with your shoulder.. 3 sets also the same but to the side of you 3 sets shrugs x 3 sets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogie2001 Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 sorry i don't know your background. but how old are you and how long have you been training? to get ot the over training thing you really need to have an experienced trainer to monitor or for you to have experience on what over training is. Looking at the pics i honestly didn't notice any real change. but remember size takes time. Don't just focus on the protein at a smaller phase the body needs energy (carbs and fat) too. signs of overtainring are injury, joint soreness and general fatigue. if you are waking up the next day and you feel like you can do it again i would say that you didn't train to failure. (just my opinion) but it is good to see you want to gain in size and look forward to seeing photos in a years time. a year is a good time frame to monitor progress. so i wouldn't look at a before and after until than, as you may get discouraged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Overtraining is a myth.It should be called "Under eating & not enough rest".You can train as much as you like so long as you are getting the balance of rest & food to go along with it - the guys that get sick are the ones that train like competitors, party like rockstars & eat like that Olsen twin.You can only get away with that sort of lifestyle for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 One word = MALNOURISHED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blairandkelly Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 go get a bucket of kfry and go dog bruva :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 go get a bucket of kfry and go dog bruvahahaha :pfft: james u need to be pateint it will take years before u are bigger than those islanders that probably beat u up :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 go get a bucket of kfry and go dog bruvahahaha :pfft: james u need to be pateint it will take years before u are bigger than those islanders that probably beat u up :pfft:Yip... If you can't beat 'em, join 'em - hit that kfc & taro hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Haha yeah lol those guys are huge but helping them with physics and chemistry homework usually keeps me safe hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oros Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 200gms of protein a day.........with that physique,........holy crap!!!!!You don't give your body weight, but 200gms of protein a day is appropriate for someone with some serious muscle mass in the 100kg+ zone.Cut back before you do your liver some serious damage. 1gm/kg of body mass is more than adequate for your first 3-5 months until you start developing some perceptible mass.I bet your training regime involves every excercise ever publishes for 5 or more sets every day, or something just as extreme.I'm not a particular proponent of DC training (Doggcrapp if you want to do a google search), but I'd say if you just use 3 straight sets (not rest -pause or drop sets) per muscle group following the DC programme & excercise selection, you'll probably make some noticable gains in the next 16-20 weeks or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 good on you for chucking up your pics . you want to get big then just eat shit loads, as much as you can all the time, try and keep it clean, lift heavy and stick to the basic compound movements. forget about using machines or cable assisted stuff. stick to the squat rack, bench press barbell rows, chins etc.that's my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james123 Posted September 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Yes thankyou diamond for taking a positive approach to this i appreciate it. Im 70.1KG weighed myself tonight and im 186cm so i may not be the most biggest guy in town in terms of mass but I aint no short ass either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Killer Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Hey dude,Has your diet changed since this thread?http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2159&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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