Front loading Test Cyp

[Silverfern]

I have some pharma test that's 100mg/ml I am thinking 600mg a week in 3 x 2ml injections. I am wondering I have read fors and against for front loading a long ester by taking 500mg on the first day and then carrying on with the 3 injections so 500mg Sunday then 200mg Monday Wednesday and Friday I plan to run this for 16 weeks what do you guys reckon. No PCT as I am on TRT

[HalfNatty]

Not an expert by any means but i think that 16 weeks is a bit long to have elevated BP and lipids - also taking into account that tits recommended that you spend equal time off for recovery before next cycle you'll only be able to have 2 cycles a year. 

Can someone else confirm if there are diminishing returns at the end of longer cycles?

From what ive read around 12 weeks is a good cycle length and without front loading it can be 2-3 weeks before blood serum levels are optimal. by front loading your up there in 2-3 days and so your normal 12 week cycle has just as much time at optimal blood levels as a 16 week cycle without the front load.

i have read that Dorian Yates used to do a 5 on 5 off cycle rotation but its just internet gossip

[atrollappears]

I have some pharma test that's 100mg/ml I am thinking 600mg a week in 3 x 2ml injections. I am wondering I have read fors and against for front loading a long ester by taking 500mg on the first day and then carrying on with the 3 injections so 500mg Sunday then 200mg Monday Wednesday and Friday I plan to run this for 16 weeks what do you guys reckon. No PCT as I am on TRT

600mg X 2/week, then 300mg X 2/week thereafter...

[atrollappears]

Not an expert by any means but i think that 16 weeks is a bit long to have elevated BP and lipids - also taking into account that its recommended that you spend equal time off for recovery before next cycle you'll only be able to have 2 cycles a year. 

Can someone else confirm if there are diminishing returns at the end of longer cycles?

From what ive read around 12 weeks is a good cycle length and without front loading it can be 2-3 weeks before blood serum levels are optimal. by front loading your up there in 2-3 days and so your normal 12 week cycle has just as much time at optimal blood levels as a 16 week cycle without the front load.

i have read that Dorian Yates used to do a 5 on 5 off cycle rotation but its just internet gossip

He's on TRT, off time is generally for recovery of HPTA, which doesn't mater in this case..

Diminishing returns are person, compound, amount, dependant, so a lot of variables, but generally 8-12 weeks is usually where slow-down starts...

[Silverfern]

 

I have some pharma test that's 100mg/ml I am thinking 600mg a week in 3 x 2ml injections. I am wondering I have read fors and against for front loading a long ester by taking 500mg on the first day and then carrying on with the 3 injections so 500mg Sunday then 200mg Monday Wednesday and Friday I plan to run this for 16 weeks what do you guys reckon. No PCT as I am on TRT

600mg X 2/week, then 300mg X 2/week thereafter...

Thanks Troll the gear I have is low dosed at 100mg/ml just clarify first week 2x 600mg that's 12ml of the gear and then 2 x 300mg a week so 2 x 3 ml injetions that will be ok to do? Bearing in mind the amount of ml

 

good to see you back on the forums. 

[atrollappears]

 

I have some pharma test that's 100mg/ml I am thinking 600mg a week in 3 x 2ml injections. I am wondering I have read fors and against for front loading a long ester by taking 500mg on the first day and then carrying on with the 3 injections so 500mg Sunday then 200mg Monday Wednesday and Friday I plan to run this for 16 weeks what do you guys reckon. No PCT as I am on TRT

600mg X 2/week, then 300mg X 2/week thereafter...

Thanks Troll the gear I have is low dosed at 100mg/ml just clarify first week 2x 600mg that's 12ml of the gear and then 2 x 300mg a week so 2 x 3 ml injetions that will be ok to do? Bearing in mind the amount of ml

 

good to see you back on the forums. 

Oh crap..!! 100mg/ml, Sorry I forgot you are on Pharma Test-Cypionate.. 

Front loading is generally used with longer acting estered compounds like Boldenone...

Considering your choice of compound, you might be better off pinning your original idea..

3 X 2ml / week...

 

[Silverfern]

 

I have some pharma test that's 100mg/ml I am thinking 600mg a week in 3 x 2ml injections. I am wondering I have read fors and against for front loading a long ester by taking 500mg on the first day and then carrying on with the 3 injections so 500mg Sunday then 200mg Monday Wednesday and Friday I plan to run this for 16 weeks what do you guys reckon. No PCT as I am on TRT

600mg X 2/week, then 300mg X 2/week thereafter...

Thanks Troll the gear I have is low dosed at 100mg/ml just clarify first week 2x 600mg that's 12ml of the gear and then 2 x 300mg a week so 2 x 3 ml injetions that will be ok to do? Bearing in mind the amount of ml

 

good to see you back on the forums. 

Oh crap..!! 100mg/ml, Sorry I forgot you are on Pharma Test-Cypionate.. 

Front loading is generally used with longer acting estered compounds like Boldenone...

Considering your choice of compound, you might be better off pinning your original idea..

3 X 2ml / week...

 

 

and no front load? I got a TRT hit the other day she did 2.4ml didn't feel a thing so 3ml maybe ok 

[9762291220]

what exactly do you expect to feel? i pinned 1g the other day and felt nothing. its not heroin lol

[Silverfern]

9762291220 wrote:

what exactly do you expect to feel? i pinned 1g the other day and felt nothing. its not heroin lol

[atrollappears]

9762291220 wrote:

what exactly do you expect to feel? i pinned 1g the other day and felt nothing. its not heroin lol

I don't expect to feel anything lol except maybe a pip from pinning 3ml into each glute I want to get higher stable levels quicker as its a slow ester and all that I have at the moment is pharma test at 100mg/ml