ectomorph Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Greetings, I’ve just finished a ‘10 Week Challenge’. I concentrated my training and diet along the lines of a body-builder and only did aerobic exercise once a week i.e. a 5km run. The original reason the entered was to give me something to train for, as opposed to say weight loss. Put simply I was sick of ‘training for nothing’. I gained 1.5kgs in muscle and lost heaps of cm's in my mid-section.I’ve now started a Boxercise class and I can believe how unfit I am. Whist I’d like to keep some of my gains in terms of physique, I want to regain my stamina. What sort of cross-training can I do to preserve muscle and gain aerobic fitness? Some thing along the lines of what say an amateur boxer would do weight-training wise, without compromising the boxing training. Oh yeah, I’m back eating carbos and taking electrolyte drinks at training. Cheers guys. Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Hi Paul. Can you just clarify... are you looking for one fitness "discipline" that improves both aerobic fitness and muscle size? Or are you looking for a weights routine to fit around your boxing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_yellow_fellow Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Hi ecto!Have you heard of kettle bells? They look like a kettle (obviously) but without the stout..... Anyways it's like doing weights but also increases your stamina and fitness, it's fresh and fun which also gives you a break from the machines and dumbells :pfft: A PT at my gym has these kettle bells and has sessions with his clients for around $60 a session (1 hour i guess), but this is in Albany......So if your interested it might pay to ask around your town to see if anyone trains with the kettle bells :nod: This site may also help: http://www.kettlebellsnz.com/Tell me how you get on as i am also interested to hear about your personal results! :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectomorph Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Gidday there, thanks for your input. To clarify, I enjoy the boxing better than weights (honesty call) mainly because I can complete a session in pronto time and get the stress relief of punching the proverbial out of the bag. I presume boxers must incorporate weights in their training - but how do they do this? I mean do they have a day on weights, days on training/cardio? I can't see myself running after say leg weights. Or do they simply do light weights, high reps?PS; My 13 y.o does boxing but at his age it's all press-ups + sit-ups etc.Thanks again.Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynton Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 A PT at my gym has these kettle bells and has sessions with his clients for around $60 a session (1 hour i guess), but this is in Albany...... I know the guy your talking about. Unfortunatly he is out of the country at the moment. As far as I know he is the only guy that does it around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_yellow_fellow Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 O..... :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Gotcha, Ectomorph.Yes, typically boxers (and other athletes wanting to increase strength) would probably do additional weights training as well. Essentially you've got two options:1) Use boxing as cardio before or after a weights session. This may mean you need to shorten one or other to avoid a marathon workout.2) Have separate boxing and weights days. The ratio of boxing-to-weights sessions you choose is up to you.Whichever way you choose to go, I'm sure we can help you design a weights routine to suit, if you need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varven Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Hey bro,weights supplement boxing training, keep that in mind.I was training in MMA and weights togeather and I got slaughtered. Squats/Deads/Benches pack on size and strenght and decrease speed and mobility.So cut out the heavy BB or Power lifter type.However, unilateral movements can be great.Think single arm db movements or one legged squats... etc.Im not saying dont squat or dead or bench, but vary your parameters.First:How many boxing sessions are you having a week ?What cardio (apart from boxing ) are you doing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectomorph Posted October 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Hey, cheers for the tips. My current schedule, subject to life’s complexities, is;-Monday; Boxing 50 minutes (skipping, bag, press-ups, plyometric exercises, medicine ball etc)-Tuesday; Off -Wednesday; Boxing (same as Monday)-Thursday; Light Run-Friday; What takes my fancy-Saturday; Light Boxing (30 minutes)-Sunday; Indoor Soccer/Futsal Note; 50 minutes of boxing is a hell of a session done in circuit-training form. See if you can pick the bones out of this.I mean where do I get a chance to do leg-weights? Fridays?Cheers again.Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynton Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 However, unilateral movements can be great. Think single arm db movements or one legged squats... etc. Im not saying dont squat or dead or bench, but vary your parameters. I haven't had much experience with unilateral training but can doing things like single leg squats help with balance and coordination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneticgod Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 Hey Ecto,I don't know if this helps but there have been studies done that show you can do up to an hour of cardio and still increase your muscle gains without losing muscle.They reccommend stationary bike for 20 mins realativly easy then 2o mins hard then 20 mins easy again. Theoritically you should burn fat while helping your muscles to grow. ( This is supposed to work specifically for your legs) but i think you can get the general idea of it.-god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_yellow_fellow Posted November 1, 2006 Report Share Posted November 1, 2006 So that's how you got your big legs?! :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneticgod Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 So that's how you got your big legs?! :nod:lol:lol: what a smart arse!haha you know my legs are tiny, man i only found this out a couple o days ago, you better watch out man ma grow me some big wheels now that i got the strength to squat, and im doing biking. :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_yellow_fellow Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 lol il wait for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitterkat Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 you can have mass and still be fast (heavyweight boxers for instance), although traditionally boxers etc dont do weight training, its all bodyweight babyyou could try circuit training though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohjoshua Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 yah i love boxing too.u definately need to do this exercise.medium weight DB flys on a swiss ballaim for 20 rep faiure weighthave your training partner (or any egar punter)punch u softly but quickly in the stomach during the tense portions of the exercise.is crazy good for abbs and hook punchs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitterkat Posted November 22, 2006 Report Share Posted November 22, 2006 btw boxing (or most unarmed combat activities) are primarily anaerobic in nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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