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Fair point. Either way, I really don't care whether it is a 'recognised' illness or not. I was sick. I was advised on how to get better. It worked. That's pretty much it.

Oh ok. I didn't know that. I wasn't getting my information from a chiropractor.

lol I always know when I choose to post on here a thick skin is required. I'm not offended. I know my reality. It is very interesting though the debate on what is a real illness and what is apparently made up. Like I said, I didn't even know what adrenal fatigue was till I was told I had it so then I went and of course did my own research as well and found a myriad of information on it. I'm not quite sure how the chiropractic part fits in though Riccardo. I guess it's like any illness. It needs to be proven to exist. Not long ago mental health issues were not recognised as an actual illness. Unless it can be measured it can't be proven therefore isn't real right????

To be honest Pseudo I don't remember what all the blood tests said. This was a few years ago. It would be good if I did for this discussion. I do remember that I didn't know what was wrong and that my GP didn't know and I remember telling myself to ' suck it up and not be such a baby'. My symptoms were real. Nobody made them up. But noone could why I was having these problems. Then finally it was as, I said, an alternative health professional that knew what it was. I wasn't sold or prescribed any medication. No trickery. I was just given advice on how overcome it. I know what the under lying root cause of it all was. I eliminated / isolated and minimised all stress related activities, made a few changes to my life and voilà, on the way to recovery. Anyway, believe what you will. Each to their own.

So, just curiously. The people who are saying this is a 'non-diagnoses', what are your credentials? Are you Drs? Have a medical phd? I'm just wondering where you get your expertise. Not bring bitchy. I actually want to know. I'm interested as it wasn't my GP that diagnosed it, it was an alternative health professional. I guess it's not recognised as mainstream yet. Probably will be when a drug company starts marketing an adrenal fatigue pill.

Except eLmo that my cause and symptoms weren't that of Adrenal insufficiently. Like I said, if you haven't had it, you won't understand it. It's not fun. There were many factors that contributed to this 'mystical' not illness. It's taken years to recover. I didn't go on pills. I did it holistically by changing my life.

I have had Adrenal Fatigue . It's real and it's not fun. I didn't know what it was till I was told I had it. I remember knowing something was really wrong with me but not knowing what. I'm not going to go into details on here. All I can say is unless you have experienced it, don't judge. You don't know what other people have been / are going though.

You would think Pseud but Paleo excludes dairy so....... Go figure.

OMG! Don't get me started on that! :madman: It was about that time that I lost the faith.

I did write a novel. Then realised that kpat102 probably wasn't female. So none of it is relevant. :grin:

I tried Paleo. Brought the Pete Evans cookbook and all the very expensive ingredients. Unfortunately it was a complete waste of my time and money. It all tasted horrible. I felt like I was eating way too many carbs for my body. I didn't have time to 'activate' my nuts overnight or spend 8 hours in the kitchen while my nut and seed crackers baked. Chia seed porridge is like eating slime and savoury pastry made from coconut flour is not savoury people! I think it has it's place but it had absolutely no beneficial affect on me at all. And then, to add to it, I starting questioning my morals as I didn't grow organic veggies, or know where my meat came from and if it was being treated humanely. Or maybe that's just the Pete Evans opinon???

I've never come across this gymtimidation business. But 1, I pretty much ignore what's going on around me in the gym and get on with my own stuff and 2, I've always gone to gyms like BodyFX and Kudos where other members just get on with their own training too. If you feel awkward, go find a gym that suits you. What I don't like is when people load the rack i.e leg press and then I can't do any leg press cause I physically can't get the weights off. That's an annoyance though not intimidation.

I personally would stay away from anything not natural. Even if you pumped and dumped it would be hard to gague how long the supps would stay in your system for. Don’t stress if you don’t ‘snap back’ to pre-pregnancy weight. It depends on your body and your baby. For some woman the weight falls off but a lot of woman find it hard to lose weight until they stop breastfeeding and their hormones regulate again. Establish a good milk supply before trying to train too hard and cut calories. You want full fat dark blue top milk not trim green top milk. As Rebel said, enjoy baby, make sure baby is happy, they are small for such a short time and they depend soley on you. In saying that, I dragged my babies around the gym with me. Ok, not literally but I could get a workout in while they slept in the pram / portacot. And when they got bigger they would manage sitting in the pram for a while as long as they had a constant supply of food. Congratulations and good luck.

I know a guy doing this. He rekons he's lost 10kg. As you would when you only eat 600-ish cals a day and most of that is in a shake.

Just to quote you 9762291220 "Not enough information given" to give accurate advise but I'll put my two cents in anyway. All I can think is ‘oh your poor body’. Maybe you should actually lay off taking anything at all and let your body recover. Have you seen the Dr? Have you ruled out serious illness? Do you have other issues like stomach / digestion problems and IBS or anything? Are you having heart palpitations? It could be anything from what you have said but I don't think adding drugs on top of drugs will help you at this stage.