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  1. 4 points
    PETN

    Being coached throughout first cycle ?

    Yeah that'd be fine. Someone will pm you regarding your sales enquiry shortly no doubt.
  2. 2 points
    gazza

    Just protein code

    @ratz99 yeah it's ok, I just find it a bit bland. I've never been a fan of vanilla protein though regardless of brand. Good as a base in smoothies though.
  3. 2 points
    PETN covered most of my thoughts. More specifically, with bench press a bunch of shoulder stabilisers are going to be your limiting factor. BB lets you bench more kgs and cause greater stimulus to the targetted muscle groups. DBs would lead to better 'real world' strength, but we are talking more about size (I think). The downside is the forced fixed handspacing - could be that the humeral head moving and rotating through that range is a bad idea for some. Type 2 or 3 subacromia for example. Buut DB training means a strong side isn't dominating the lift. Short version - neither is better overall, but for size gains most muscle groups people look at will grow faster with barbell training cos heavier.
  4. 2 points
    I reckon either would be fine but I'd prefer to keep using both. DBs have the advantage of being easier on your joints being able to rotate through movement and not having your hands fixed along a straight line. On some movements you can get better contraction too doing only one side at a time rather than symmetrically with both hands/sides of the body. BB has the advantage of being fixed (disadvantage for joints) so that horizontal force components exerted by the person cancel out. Thats why if you're benching 180 for reps you won't be benching 90 for reps with DBs. Still would rate the DB movement as being better for chest though but probably would be the opposite for deadlifts using DBs as that would be shithouse.
  5. 2 points
    Oh so this is what happened to clenbuterol.co.nz - https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/103960801/smart-but-dumb-inside-new-zealands-biggest-sports-steroids-ring
  6. 2 points
    FellowshipOfTheRon

    back to the grind

    cheers mate. so my creatine hcl arrived couple weeks ago and have since stabilised at around 64.5kg, so i know the product is doing something i guess. with diet at present being so simple and consistent, it's really easy to now trial different supplements to find out what affects me / how and whether it's worth throwing hard earned money at it. reintroduced benching in to my routine, though admittedly still haven't settled on a consistent program yet. currently haven't tested 1 RM yet but easy 3 sets of 3 reps for 70kg last session.. it feels a whole lot easier than i remember it so i guess there is a decent transfer in strength from the calisthenics stuff i'm doing couple of guys were mentioning an interesting strength scale on FB, not sure if skeletor/quadzilla still visit these forums but i thought that was a fairly interesting topic... if anyones interested then the link is https://www.strongerbyscience.com/objective-strength-standards/ haven't got any hard deadlines for these goals in mind but wouldn't mind having something quantitative to progress towards with the big 3 so may end up using that..., i always ultimately wanted to end up with a 100kg bench which is both very close but very far away ;) been ignoring lower body training a fair bit lately..
  7. 2 points
    ratz99

    Eating plan for bulking

    Apologies for the delay, here you go, the file (Nutrition Plan.xlsx) is attached to this post. It's been updated since, now has a post cardio total etc at the bottom too, which you may or may not find useful. Side note: If you don't have microsoft excel, this also works in Google Sheets, just upload it to there and you can edit etc, in fact that's where I've been using it, I just exported to excel format to upload. Nutrition Plan.xlsx
  8. 2 points
    lynx

    Lynx's Workout Journal

    3 Year bump... just getting back into the gym after some drastic life changes. Body fat is at the lowest I’ve ever had, so least I’m not a porker starting again this time. Will try be more active here and post some shit... cheers Daniel
  9. 2 points
    justhell

    Just keeping tabs

    hey Pseudo, cheers bruv, I have got other better looking pics but just keeping it real really. Shit tbh I had / have a few health issues that may be aas related but not fully to blame on it. My Doc knows I've been on and off for a good 7 or 8 years. Went in for a yearly blood test and ended up getting put on blood pressure meds . Next thing diagnosed with sleep apnea. ( I am denying that ,and have to spend a night sleeping in hospital to prove this in a few weeks time. ), from there the Hospital had blood results saying my red blood count was high and now waiting on a special blood test results. My eyes were always very bloodshot with lots of headaches.my doctor couldn't give me a reason for this? now I'm using eye drops twice a day to combat that. I have been cruise / blasting for about 18 months this cycle , So it's a good excuse to see if my natural test will restart. The last time I had a 10 month break from aas, my test was only about 270 ( lower end of the range ) but may be it was climbing ?
  10. 2 points
    Pseudonym

    sarmsnz.co.nz review??

    I'm a bit late to the party here, but... Yeah, I checked it out when this topic first started. As far as I can tell, everyone looks relatively legit - ie, different posters have different IP addresses from different NZ-based ISPs. Of course, that's still no guarantee they're completely unrelated. But for now, I think we can give everyone the benefit of the doubt. So welcome, all you new people!
  11. 2 points
    Kalidane

    Homemade mass gainer shakes

    Making is cheaper and you get what you want. Yay. Good recipe and good total volume. You'll see change in weight from that breakfast rather than whatever you did have. I would add around two scoops of unflavoured whey protein concentrate. Getting 50+g of protein at breakfast simply makes the rest of the day easier, in terms of hitting your targets. Shop around for a WPC with protein close to 78% protein, so 78 grams of protein per 100 grams. Garbage products near 60% protein are not even cheap - read your labels.
  12. 2 points
    FellowshipOfTheRon

    sarmsnz.co.nz review??

    same question here really. maybe its not such a big risk in nz/aus as it is shown to be on US forums, who knows.. probably just paranoid lol, getting an outright fake product doesn't concern me nearly as much as something that has other crap with side effects i'm not equipped to manage and didn't sign up for. wish we could go straight to docs for prescription on research drugs like this, sadly it seems like they pulled the pin on ostarin all together because certain aspects of continuing the study were unable to be funded. no ones saying you're misleading anyone mate and thanks for sharing your experienece so far. same goes for @Sheepdog. plenty of aas logs on this site, would be keen to see more sarms logs too. keep posting / contributing, all the questions being asked are with a healthy layer of speculation that every normal human being should have, too dangerous to believe everything you read online without questioning lol. or maybe i've just become too cynical, idk :)
  13. 2 points
    FellowshipOfTheRon

    back to the grind

    kinda glad i take regular progress pics and keep them aside regardless of if i feel im making much progress or not lol. i eat total less calories than when i was at my craziest bulk but funny enough due to the braces situation there is no more snacks, no more junk food at all (apart from ice cream desserts when i feel like im gonna crash). seem to be making the most progress and generally feeling better than ever, i finally get the hype about clean eating lol. introduced tuna in to diet lately also and just further mash it down with fork before i swallow it. looking for further meat ideas but haven't yet researched enough about what is and isn't highly bioavailable when there is lack of chewing/enzymes from saliva etc. here is 1 yr comparison from last year and now. that vascularity / abs popping out a bit seems to have really come in strong from after a week of arginine. i highly recommend anyone who hasn't tried that supp to give it a go, pretty crazy but i guess you may have to be already slightly lean before it shows like that? 30 may 2017 62.5kg 25 april 2018 60.5kg back 28 april 62kg. lot any traces of the ol thickness but width coming back in quick got deadlifts / abs session coming up later today. my 'porta bars' arrived couple days ago not sure how i'll incorporate those in to my training routine now that i think about it.
  14. 2 points
    FellowshipOfTheRon

    sarmsnz.co.nz review??

    i don't want to come out as accusatory , just questioning the legitimacy of those claims. all but one of the accounts that have posted here are new, which is not necessarily anything against someones credibility but given it's a new company, expensive products with potential to not be as legit as claimed i kinda feel it necessary to not take anything mentioned here at face value. would be interested to compare IPs of some of the posters here but don't have access to that side of things ofcourse. @Pseudonym is this potential shill thread? in terms of legitimacy of actual sarms, the research seems to all be quite limited and claims of 'no sides' are made based on the research, but for example research says ostarin (mk-2866) at 3mg/day did cause some shutdown yet recommended dosage for recreational purposes is stated to be 25mg/day (which has no clinical trials or other supporting evidence backing up side effects) and claimed that this apparently has no shutdown? it's a higher dose so i'm not sure how that works, unless my maths / logic is off. also even though it's not strictly illegal (unregulated research drugs), this does not mean it's professionally produced and that you're getting some pharma quality product. there is much info out there showing other companies overseas have spiked their sarms with prohormones and users experienced all kinds of unexpected side effects (few of the big names in US are getting sued for this right now). i'm not saying that is the case here nor am i trying to slander the company in question but if you're looking at taking sarms because you think they might be safer than anabolic steroids, you should go in to it knowing that you're still taking on significant risk especially because the long term side effects are as yet completely unknown. not saying this to put you off , as with anything you gotta go in to it knowing what you're getting yourself in to. @gazza is someone whose word is more trustworthy among the posters so far on this thread and sounds like he has either personal knowledge of this or knows people who have really used sarms, care to share?
  15. 1 point
    GyzzBrah

    Actually going gym etc pt.2

    I have not been consistent in the last two weeks, first week is fine because I was sick, but after that no excuse but still didn't get things back on track. Even with exam study / eating etc. But now I am. Had a really good workout today and did all the excercises I wrote down with decent effort. Deadlifts 130kg for 3 x 3 Sumo deadlift (focus on squeezing glutes at the top) 100kg x 8 60kg x 8 Hadn't done these in a while, seems really good for hamstrings and glutes. Hamstring curls 4 x 8 Pullups 3 x 5 Tbar rows 3 x 8 Dumbell rows 2 x 8
  16. 1 point
    ratz99

    are dumbells enough for a good physique

    Alright cheers for the info bro, defs stuff to keep in mind. Will probs keep doing both to get the best of both worlds.
  17. 1 point
    Was waiting to see if anyone chimed in... if you were looking for competitive powerlifters, I don't know of any at Club K. Powerlifters are dotted around the place - some at various City Fitness (J'ville, Thorndon), Les Mills (Hutt) or a lifting gym like Powerhouse or Viking Bros. Seems to me that most of the Oly lifters are with a club like 41 Barbell or Dark Horse, or one of the CrossFit boxes. Otherwise, you might have to inspire some of the other Club K members to join in lifting heavy things.
  18. 1 point
    Ok havent updated in a while, have been training. 21/05/2018 Run to gym 10min Squats (quite deep) 60kg*5 100kg*5 120kg*5 140kg*5 Bench press 60kg*8 80kg*8 100kg*3 110kg*1 120kg*1 130kg*1 132.5kg*3 130kg*1 BB bent over row 60kg*8 80kg*8 100kg*5 supine rows bw*10*7 rowing 1min = 360meters (cant beat this :( Note: eating has been good during the day but I have been frequently bindging in the evenings.
  19. 1 point
    I've been saving a little bit of cash up and migh5 be in the market for a proper power bar. If i keep saving up i could add a deadlif5 bar to that. So weighing up my options. I have a solid strength power bar but wanting to step it up 1. Force USA power bar. Have heard these have decent knurling. Cheap price. Designed in USA and built in China I assume. No reviews online really 2. Valhalla power/deadlift bar. 28mm for power bar which is smaller than most and not ipf approved. Most power bars seem to be at least 28.5. Limited reviews, made in aus. Pretty expensive. 12 month warranty 3. Rouge Ohio power/deadlift. Most positive reviews of almost any bars. Ipf specs. Lifetime warranty. Seems to have established the standard for power bars. Have to ship from aus so might have duty. Will probably end up costing the same or slightly less than the valhallas My pick is the rouge. Let me know what everyone thinks and if there's another option
  20. 1 point
    Obviously this wasn't the focus of the story, but I'd love to know how many of his products actually had the ingredients (and the amounts) that customers thought they were getting. That was an interesting read. And pretty well-written too - it seems to avoid the usual explosive claims and scare-mongering, and just sticks to the facts. Thanks for sharing the link, mate.
  21. 1 point
    maccaz

    maccaz 2017 gpc summer classic prep log

    Today close grip bench 80 4x10 wide grip pull down 110lb 20secs on 10secs off x 10 sets rope climb machine just to see how it felt. 10 sets x 20secs sprints. This fucked my lats and forearms seat ohp 60 3x10 lots of biceps and triceps
  22. 1 point
    Bigken1985

    First GPC powerlifting meet at 16

    Just duck eggs
  23. 1 point
    Isaac

    First GPC powerlifting meet at 16

    Not a typo bro haha. ended up with 215/130/230 and 575kg total videos are all on my instagram @isaaclee_fitness
  24. 1 point
    ratz99

    Just protein code

    BB NZ is indeed shutting down, but you can still purchase Nutrawhey elsewhere, and even from nutratech themselves. I just got 2x5lb bags of Nutrawhey French Vanilla for 57 bucks each (114 total) off BB NZ for their closing down sale ! What a steal! http://www.bodybuilding.co.nz/nutrawhey-whey-protein.html Only thing is, I've had the Vanilla flavour before and this batch does not taste near as good as it should. It's almost as if i've got a batch without enough added flavour or some crap. I'm a bit salty but it doesn't taste as bad as the unflavoured one.
  25. 1 point
    Heck yes! Just up your cals slightly and eat clean plenty of rest train hard, and dont do the rookie mistake of eating everything in sight inc those nasty ass mass gainer shakes ....weve all been down that road!
  26. 1 point
    Daz69

    Being coached throughout first cycle ?

    On american forums they are selling you the gear and ancillaries, don't be fooled into thinking you need PCT, most people recover just fine (especially on testosterone only cycles).. Testosterone only doesn't seem to present with symptoms of secondary hypogonadism (hypothalamic dysfunction), That's when you may need a SERM or GnRH antagonist to restart things... You don't..!! hCG won't do shite for restoration of testicular function, if leydig and sertoli cells are damaged on-cycle, it's a LH mimicking agent, it won't work after cells have necrosed (died).. It only works whilst you are using it, once you stop things return to baseline.. It's pointless in your case.. Research clearly shows most people recover LH & FSH within hours/days of exogenous test being out of your system anyway, what science is telling us, is protection on-cycle is the way forward, rather than wasting money on pointless PCT drugs when you don't understand the physiological mechanisms behind what you are undertaking...
  27. 1 point
    maccaz

    Being coached throughout first cycle ?

    every american forum: x test per week lots of clomid and nolva pct real world with no (anecdotal) issues: 3x test per week lots of other shit just stop one day because comp is done, taper off the test. have low sex drive for a couple weeks, feel fine again after 1 month
  28. 1 point
    ratz99

    Just protein code

    Yeah not sure man haha. I may even alternate between them to be honest, I do enjoy the less sweet flavour of Justprotein now and then I guess. I evidently didn't have enough work to do Friday arvo haha.
  29. 1 point
    PETN

    Just protein code

    Pretty sure it's around 80% also. P.S. don't take the nutritional labels on food as being accurate. Sometimes they are grossly inaccurate.
  30. 1 point
    Fit20, NZ's latest gym chain, is about to open their doors next week. They're catering to a very specific section of the market - a customer I would cynically describe as "has more money than sense, and would rather not be gym training anyway". What do you make of this? Read the full story here: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12043502
  31. 1 point
    Week off training due to 4 days of restraint training for work. Pretty ordinary getting stretched and twisted with DOMS. Lots of stretching and foam rolling in the evenings to try and keep things moving. Back into it tomorrow with a leg session.
  32. 1 point
    gazza

    Just protein code

    Interesting!!! 40g serve of just protein is 33g of protein with no fillers etc at around 83%. What is the nutrawhey in comparison?
  33. 1 point
    ratz99

    Just protein code

    Actually not quite. The Nutrawhey is only $69. Just protein with 15% off is ~$64. Justprotein = 50 servings(assuming 2kg worth) of 40g scoops (even though the scoops actually turn out to 30g weighed if you dont pack them tight as f*ck), if you equate that to the 30g from the nutrawhey (5lb, 2.27kg) by scaling down the 40g scoop of Justprotein to 30g, you're getting 66.6 servings of Justprotein for $64 with about the same macros as Nutrawhey (scaled by 0.75, so 24.7g protein, 120 cals etc down from 33g, 160cal). Price difference 64/69 = 0.92 scale, so if we then scale down Nutrawheys servings etc to price match Justprotein, we get 75servings x 0.92 = 69 servings. Well i've gone full on special needs there, but the Nutrawhey comes in slightly better, by a few servings lmao. Just for the record I am a fan of Justprotein.
  34. 1 point
    Old Bull

    Beaten Paths are For Beaten Men

    Monday 7th May(подготовительный) PreparatoryMicro-cycle 1 Week 17 Day 81Squats: 44 Centurion 60kgs 3рХ1п100kgs 3рХ1п140kgs 2рХ1п 160kgs 2рХ1п 160kgs 2рХ1п 180kgs 2рХ1п 200kgs 2рХ1п 210kgs 2рХ1п 200kgs 2рХ1п Total: 20 Lifts Press: Bench Press OverLoad XL 40kgs 3рХ1п60kgs 3рХ1п 70kgs 2рХ1п 80kgs 2рХ1п 90kgs 2рХ1п 100kgs 2рХ1п Press: Bench Press SK50110kgs 2Х1п 120kgs 2рХ1п 130kgs 1рХ1п Total: 18 Lifts Pull: Sumo C 46 70kgs 3рХ1п90kgs 3рХ1п110kgs 2рХ1п 130kgs 2рХ1п 150kgs 2рХ1п 170kgs 2рХ1п 190kgs 2рХ1п Total: 16 LiftsAll Lifts 55Notes: Squat: Primary Day C44, 10th week back. Not as crisp as I would have liked but the drop set was pretty good. 210 was ok a bit shy on depth need to get use to the pressure. Press: Comp Bench Overload XL. Moving in the right direction missed the speed on the top set 130kgs. I think it was slow but not real slow lol. Pull: Pulled 190kgs today best I have done for over 2 years. Notes: Micro-cycle 1 Week 18 A good long session. Quote for the Month: "If you're afraid - don't do it, - if you're doing it - don't be afraid!" - Genghis Khan OB1
  35. 1 point
    maccaz

    maccaz 2017 gpc summer classic prep log

    making comeback now. calf feeling good. w2d1 squat 60 x 5 100 x 5 130 5x10 leg press 240 4x15 leg extension 3x10 ham curl 3x10
  36. 1 point
    gazza

    Lynx's Workout Journal

    Welcome back.
  37. 1 point
    GyzzBrah

    Actually going gym etc pt.2

    Chest day. Decided to skip bench and try something new, my wide grip bench is useless and cant even feel it in the chest pump wise and I seem stronger with a narrower grip which is triceps basically. With incline press defineately felt it more especially when doing it fresh. Incline dumbells 26 x 12 28 x 8 28 x 5 30 x 6 Rows 4 x 8 Chest press 3 x 8 Curls 4 x 8 V bar pushdowns hammer curl superset 4 x 8 - 12 Rear delts 3 x 10
  38. 1 point
    justhell

    Just keeping tabs

    2.5.2018 where I'm at now , Life has been busy as but I'm still keeping on. always gyming as much as I can, have been a bit off and on but will never stop training. This is a recent pic may be 1 or so months ago? Going to have a break from aas to clear the body and hoping to get everything working naturally again. Doctors advice lol ...... 10kgs difference in 8 years BEFORE AFTER
  39. 1 point
    Cameron

    Homemade mass gainer shakes

    I'm 15 and trying to build some muscle So for breakfast I been making shakes with: 1 cup of oats, 2 table spoon pb, 2 tbl spoon of Greek yogurt and 2 and 1/2 cup of milk. is this a good idea or should I just buy a mass gainer
  40. 1 point
    Pseudonym

    back to the grind

    Don't sell yourself short, bro. Yours is an excellent journal. Good to hear you're back on track and feeling positive.
  41. 1 point
    maccaz

    maccaz 2017 gpc summer classic prep log

    leg mending slowly. i was able to squat an empty barbell for a set of 10 last night pain free, physio helping me with a plan to get back to 100%, will be starting to squat regularly from next week. yesterday had a big upper body session, first time doing incline bench in years, felt good. incline bench 60 x 10 80 x 10 100 3x8 (rpe 10) 60 x 15 cable fly 50lb/side 5x15 decline chest press machine 60kg/side 3x8 tricep pressdown x lots bicep curls x lots "uni lateral yates row" machine 40/side 5x10 felt jacked by the end
  42. 1 point
    gazza

    sarmsnz.co.nz review??

    @FellowshipOfTheRon my experience is pretty limited. I gave the quad elite a crack from the previously mentioned lipo guy, based in aussie. As far as I can tell its all legit. I didn't experience any issues or sides of note. I was hungrier, my strength increased as did my recovery and I did notice some body recomp, although my diet was shitty. I did as much research into it as I could thanks to mr Google and also asked a lot of questions of the company. They have a lot of flash sounding products. Possibly a bit pricey compared to the exchange rate from the states but I was happy with what I got and the outcome. I would look at purchasing something from them again. Not sponsored or otherwise getting any form of kickbacks or the likes, just had a good experience, with good customer service and response time to questions. One of the guys at work bought a stack of the Gaspari novadex XT, plasmajet and halidrol from them last year and was really happy. Novadex is the same as the original that disappeared from eight years ago, just with different versions of the ingredients names. I used the original, it was awesome. Currently just finishing up Wizard Shockwave which has been bloody good so far.
  43. 1 point
    After two consecutive rest days it was time to hit chest with a side of abs and blow this sinus, head cold bollox away. Smith bench 1x15, 1x12, 2x6, 1xamrap with the weight from my second set. Incline flyes 3x10 Decline flyes 3x10 Cable pec contraction thingy 3x12 Decline sit ups superset with inclined leg raise 3x15 for both. Boom, done. Excuse the lack of weights listed, trying to not focus on that so much and concentrate on how the muscle is working etc.
  44. 1 point
    I had a quick look at your Instagram. Open lighter would be my advice bro, that doesn’t have to mean you’ll finish with a smaller total either. But it means you’ll build much more confidence as the attempts roll through and won’t run into any problems missing your first then panicking on your 2nd attempt. Remember the weights can go up in as minimal as 2.5kg increments not 10kg increments, you don’t have to round it to the nearest 10 kilogram number. Most importantly have fun and enjoy the event.
  45. 1 point
    anaru13

    New to Bodybuilding Christchurch

    I walked into the supplements store and was trying to ask the guy which protein shakes I needed to build muscle. The guy was holding back on all info and was treating my as a threat. He then told us he'd just took out and won 2 weight classes in bodybuilding but continued to shut us down about what we should use. We're only a few bro's that set up home gyms bench dumbells etc to keep us out of trouble and feel better about ourselves we've been pumping for few months now but after this guy shrugged us off and made us feel like that I'm now motivated to get into bodybuilding. I just don't know where to start. I'm slim but I've trained on & off most my life. Now I'm looking for the next step. Chur
  46. 1 point
    kiwicannon

    New to Bodybuilding Christchurch

    Turn it around bro! Id take it as a compliment, normally when another male is threatened by your presence its because he feels inferior simple...its like at the gym its normally the puny little runts who puff up there chests and walk like gorillas with there arms out the side, the feel small and inferior so they have to act tough and think they're massive.
  47. 1 point
    Hey guys so it has taken a lot of hard work and courage for me to finally release my first Youtube video! My journey for self-improvement has just begun and I hope it gives you motivation to help you change your life and reach those 2017 goals and New Year resolutions! I used to be unhappy with my appearance and I suffered from depression. I can finally say that I am comfortable in my own skin and I want to spread this positive energy in hopes that you can feel what I am feeling! Make sure you check out my Youtube Channel and subscribe since this year I will be making more content that will give you fitness tips and nutritional advice on how to achieve the body that you want so watch this space! Show some love and share this post if it motivates you to change! I hope 2017 will be a great year for all of you guys! Started from the bottom, now we here!
  48. 1 point
    Bodybuilder or not, lock the piece of trash up and throw away the keys!......pure scum of the earth.
  49. 1 point
    Bodybuilder..??? Have you seen the size of the skinny runt..!!
  50. 1 point
    my first time taking test e,i just took 250mg a week just one shot on a monday.i took only 250 coz it was my first time and i wanted to see how my body reacted to it.f*ck it was good brothas! mean results!Everone at the gym where saying i looked jacked hahaha and i told them f*ck its the tuna shakes that i drink hahahaha.Just stick the needle in ya ass bro hahaha it wont hurt or maybe a little,just pinch the skin on the part you are going to put the needle in,coz it numbs it so when you stick that needle in you dont feel it.The needle dont hurt anyway bro,its all in ya head lol just like when you lose virginity lol i sit there and go ummm i hope i f*ck this bitch right hahaha and once i stuck it in it was all good hahaha and smash that shit,hahah of topic but yeah bro you do it its over.but still ill fucking a bitch is better lol but the whole needle thing its all in ya head, for me anyway.But ive and a few shots that hurt,f*ck i put it in my quad once and f*ck it was fucken sore bro,soon as i put it in my leg twitched and the fucken needle came out lol so i had to put it back in,fucks sake aye it was pretty sore.anyways bro thats my needle experience,once you do it its all sweet, not as sweet as pussy brothas hahaha just a little pin prick homie.
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