chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 put some pics up then. or even better a video of you bent over barbell rowing 200kg for 6-8 reps with no strapsLOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!All I'm saying is that with a little experience and a little time, my grip is just as strong at the beginning of a back workout as it is at the end.It's not my fault you're a pussy and have to use a strap to keep the barbell in your little girly hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDolan Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 put some pics up then. or even better a video of you bent over barbell rowing 200kg for 6-8 reps with no strapsLOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!All I'm saying is that with a little experience and a little time, my grip is just as strong at the beginning of a back workout as it is at the end.It's not my fault you're a pussy and have to use a strap to keep the barbell in your little girly hands. Coleman used straps....just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 put some pics up then. or even better a video of you bent over barbell rowing 200kg for 6-8 reps with no strapsLOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!All I'm saying is that with a little experience and a little time, my grip is just as strong at the beginning of a back workout as it is at the end.It's not my fault you're a pussy and have to use a strap to keep the barbell in your little girly hands. Coleman used straps....just sayin'And???????????I've already made the statement BBers should use straps.....are you guys retarded on here? Illiterate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterDolan Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 LOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!All I'm saying is that with a little experience and a little time, my grip is just as strong at the beginning of a back workout as it is at the end.It's not my fault you're a pussy and have to use a strap to keep the barbell in your little girly hands. Coleman used straps....just sayin'And???????????I've already made the statement BBers should use straps.....are you guys retarded on here? Illiterate?First you came out saying you should never use them, then that you should now you're saying tom has girly hands for using them, which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Coleman used straps....just sayin'And???????????I've already made the statement BBers should use straps.....are you guys retarded on here? Illiterate?First you came out saying you should never use them, then that you should now you're saying tom has girly hands for using them, which is it?Read the thread.......the OP starts a thread, wants to know how to improve his grip for deadlifts for a contest lift, I gave my suggestion to lose the straps, believing(sinc he said he will be doing bench, deads, squat) tha he was into powerlifting......then a few posts later he says his focus is bbing.........so I tell him to use the straps.......a few illiterate people can't see the difference and so they keep bringing it up.....IMO powerlifters/strongmen(specifically) should not train with straps.Powerlifter.....what good does it do to lift 300+kg with straps when your grip won't hold it for a comp?Strongman......try picking up farmers walk with straps.....try lifting stones with straps.....try doing an axle clean/press with straps...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Squat Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 LOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!Ummm, to build a big arse back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 LOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!Ummm, to build a big arse back?Video of you doing bb rows with 200kg!! :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Squat Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 LOL Why would I do bent over rows with 200kg? LMFAO!!Ummm, to build a big arse back?Video of you doing bb rows with 200kg!! :shock:Mate I would not claim to do bent over rows with 200 kg but I am quite strong. :wink: Straps certainly help me row more. As they do for most people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tinytraps Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I beleive there is a vid of Dale sheppard doing bent rows with 200kg jus sayin :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 chaos is just like his mate nzmm... talks shit but cant lift shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shutupandsquat Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I can only do 140 with straps.. f*ck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Ummm, to build a big arse back?Video of you doing bb rows with 200kg!! :shock:Mate I would not claim to do bent over rows with 200 kg but I am quite strong. :wink: Straps certainly help me row more. As they do for most people.I believe you are quite strong, no argument there.Question is, if you did your rows first, could you do them withouts straps up to your normal weight vs doing them in the middle somewhere and using straps?For the record, I hardly do bb bentover rows anymore, been on the dbs for awhile now....."feel" them in my lats more.New gym only has DB's to 145# though. I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also.As someone who trains for pling/SM......how often do you use your straps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also.Nate no one is being a gear whore and using straps on there 60kg barbell rows lol.would u rather barbell row 120kg with no straps for 10 reps or 180kg with straps for 10 reps? if i actually wanted to train my back then i would opt for straps on the heavy sets... wanking all over the forum saying u never use straps wont get u a big strong back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also.Nate no one is being a gear whore and using straps on there 60kg barbell rows lol.would u rather barbell row 120kg with no straps for 10 reps or 180kg with straps for 10 reps? if i actually wanted to train my back then i would opt for straps on the heavy sets... wanking all over the forum saying u never use straps wont get u a big strong back...That said I know plenty of guys with big backs that have never owned straps.....I use them for top sets of rows usually, but have had to use more frequently on other back exercises due to the bicpe/supinator tear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also.Nate no one is being a gear whore and using straps on there 60kg barbell rows lol.would u rather barbell row 120kg with no straps for 10 reps or 180kg with straps for 10 reps? if i actually wanted to train my back then i would opt for straps on the heavy sets... wanking all over the forum saying u never use straps wont get u a big strong back...The sign of a man with little hands.You ever use a big bar kid? Nice fat one......try some hang cleans or deadlifts with one of those.....humbling for your grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I do bent over rows with 200+ :grin: But they're damn rugged! I agree with both views funly enough! Majority should be done strapless, but where grip is fatigue or is impacting on ability to train the back I would use straps. Don't be a gear whore and use them all the time - no benefit really. Grip can be trained seperately if needed also.Nate no one is being a gear whore and using straps on there 60kg barbell rows lol.would u rather barbell row 120kg with no straps for 10 reps or 180kg with straps for 10 reps? if i actually wanted to train my back then i would opt for straps on the heavy sets... wanking all over the forum saying u never use straps wont get u a big strong back...The sign of a man with little hands.You ever use a big bar kid? Nice fat one......try some hang cleans or deadlifts with one of those.....humbling for your grip.LOL - yep I got small-ish hands but dont have fat sausage fingers. Never drop DL's and have the NZL record in the Hercules Hold....... HOWEVER I am absolutely crap on fat bar work. I clean my axle a bit but can't do near what I can with an Oly bar without a mixed grip. My Rolling Thunder is abysmal at around 75-80kg max!! :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 SU&S - just changed the thread name as it's focused on an issue I'm sure people will search for in future - hope ya don't mind?! :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Nate no one is being a gear whore and using straps on there 60kg barbell rows lol.would u rather barbell row 120kg with no straps for 10 reps or 180kg with straps for 10 reps? if i actually wanted to train my back then i would opt for straps on the heavy sets... wanking all over the forum saying u never use straps wont get u a big strong back...The sign of a man with little hands.You ever use a big bar kid? Nice fat one......try some hang cleans or deadlifts with one of those.....humbling for your grip.LOL - yep I got small-ish hands but dont have fat sausage fingers. Never drop DL's and have the NZL record in the Hercules Hold....... HOWEVER I am absolutely crap on fat bar work. I clean my axle a bit but can't do near what I can with an Oly bar without a mixed grip. My Rolling Thunder is abysmal at around 75-80kg max!! :oops:That was directed at tom"peewee"sammce, not you. I have never done the rolling thunder. You got a link to a youtube or something of your videos? I'm not searching all over here trying to find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The sign of a man with little hands.You ever use a big bar kid? Nice fat one......try some hang cleans or deadlifts with one of those.....humbling for your grip.LOL - yep I got small-ish hands but dont have fat sausage fingers. Never drop DL's and have the NZL record in the Hercules Hold....... HOWEVER I am absolutely crap on fat bar work. I clean my axle a bit but can't do near what I can with an Oly bar without a mixed grip. My Rolling Thunder is abysmal at around 75-80kg max!! :oops:That was directed at tom"peewee"sammce, not you. I have never done the rolling thunder. You got a link to a youtube or something of your videos? I'm not searching all over here trying to find them.lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The sign of a man with little hands.You ever use a big bar kid? Nice fat one......try some hang cleans or deadlifts with one of those.....humbling for your grip.LOL - yep I got small-ish hands but dont have fat sausage fingers. Never drop DL's and have the NZL record in the Hercules Hold....... HOWEVER I am absolutely crap on fat bar work. I clean my axle a bit but can't do near what I can with an Oly bar without a mixed grip. My Rolling Thunder is abysmal at around 75-80kg max!! :oops:That was directed at tom"peewee"sammce, not you. I have never done the rolling thunder. You got a link to a youtube or something of your videos? I'm not searching all over here trying to find them.No vids of rolling thunder I dont think..... thenate225 is my youtube acct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shutupandsquat Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Bloody people changing the name of my thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryB Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So I better ditch the straps or I won't have any back development? I would have thought that at worst my forearms might struggle but was sure my back would get overloaded because my training wasn't dictated by how much my tiny weak hands can hold..... damn!!! 20+ years and you guys are just telling me this now!!! Back to the drawing board for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Squat Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So I better ditch the straps or I won't have any back development? I would have thought that at worst my forearms might struggle but was sure my back would get overloaded because my training wasn't dictated by how much my tiny weak hands can hold..... damn!!! 20+ years and you guys are just telling me this now!!! Back to the drawing board for me!Lol. I have tiny weak hand too. I agree with you Harry. My theme has been that my forearms etc will fail before my back. So I wear straps.The other issue to consider is form. With straps you can almost use your hands as hooks and focus on pulling with your lats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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