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AAP Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:43:39

The NRL has imposed an immediate provisional suspension on Gold Coast under 20s player Travis Drought after he returned a positive drug test result to Nandrolone.

Nandrolone is a steroid-based drug derived from testosterone, which is prohibited both in and out of competition by the World Anti-Doping Authority (WADA) code.

Drought, who returned a positive 'A' sample, has the option under the WADA code to have a 'B' sample taken.

Should the 'B' sample test not confirm the result, the matter would not be pursued.

But if Drought's positive test is confirmed, he faces a two-year penalty, as accepted by Cronulla backrower Reni Maitua earlier this season when he tested positive to Clenbuterol.

Drought is the second under-20s player to return a positive test this year, after Manly's Shane Gray also tested positive to Clenbuterol.

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Just another example of hyped up media bullshit with no apparent scientific facts to back up their ludicrous actuations. Sure you can die from using steroids if you totally abuse them or don't administer them safely, but so can you from an overdose of paracetamol. Very biased view with no acknowledgement of how beneficial the use of steroids can be in a medical or a therapeutic sense. This type of reported sensationalism regrettably does our cause a great deal of harm. We can all only continue to educate those around us to the benefits in overall health & well being, both physically & physiologically that can result in the safe & controlled administration of AAS & other PEDs with the hope that, in time, peoples attitude to their use will change.

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Just another example of hyped up media bullshit with no apparent scientific facts to back up their ludicrous actuations. Sure you can die from using steroids if you totally abuse them or don't administer them safely, but so can you from an overdose of paracetamol. Very biased view with no acknowledgement of how beneficial the use of steroids can be in a medical or a therapeutic sense. This type of reported sensationalism regrettably does our cause a great deal of harm. We can all only continue to educate those around us to the benefits in overall health & well being, both physically & physiologically that can result in the safe & controlled administration of AAS & other PEDs with the hope that, in time, peoples attitude to their use will change.

Well said bro :clap:

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Just another example of hyped up media bullshit with no apparent scientific facts to back up their ludicrous actuations. Sure you can die from using steroids if you totally abuse them or don't administer them safely, but so can you from an overdose of paracetamol. Very biased view with no acknowledgement of how beneficial the use of steroids can be in a medical or a therapeutic sense. This type of reported sensationalism regrettably does our cause a great deal of harm. We can all only continue to educate those around us to the benefits in overall health & well being, both physically & physiologically that can result in the safe & controlled administration of AAS & other PEDs with the hope that, in time, peoples attitude to their use will change.

Exactly, claims need to be backed up with evidence. I found it odd when they devoted about 10 seconds to name a particular bodybuilder, showed a clip from what looked like a long time ago, then basically said "this guy died from steroids" and that was that. I'm not saying it was or wasn't AAS related, but they're making big statements and not backing it up with any facts.

I suppose this is the sort of tabloid journalism that brings in mainstream viewers these days unfortunately, but surely there must be some who still prefer an unbiased view when it comes to what is supposed to be "non-fiction".

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Just seen the show and its the biggest load of bullshit I have ever seen. Bleeding internally? What was he site injecting into his heart? What a dick. Just another story of seriously misinformed individuals like this tosser Tony Wall vilifying something he knows nothing about.

How about the positive effects of steroids and factful information.

Maybe the research in the new english journal of medicine, one of the most respected pieces of litrature behind medicine which was featured in bigger stronger faster. This maybe a good time to bring up an old topic I am a steroid and I am bad... posted below..

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I am a steroid, and I am bad.

Why have I become such a bad word in this country when I do so much good in this world?

Why has my honourable name been soiled just because a few dishonourable athletes have abused me?

Renowned doctors worldwide have called me a wonder drug, but I am being portrayed nationally as the dirty little secret of the hulked-up, bulked-up juicers in Major League Baseball. I am actually being painted by grandstanding politicians as a death sentence for the youth of America.

Let me tell you something. My job is to rescue kids, not kill them. I have saved thousands upon thousands of premature babies who are injected with me to help their little lungs develop quickly so they can breath, so they can live. Without me, these babies, some of whom don't even weigh 1 pound, would be killed by something called "Respiratory Distress Syndrome" -- a sometimes fatal disorder where the air sacs collapse in their underdeveloped lungs. "There's no question that steroids have saved the lives of many babies," says Dr. David Auerbach, the director of the neonatal intensive care unit at the Arnold Palmer Hospital for Children. "They've had an incredible impact. There are times when they are the difference between life and death."

You see, it was always my intention to help the many sick people who need me, not the few sickos who exploit me. It was never my desire to help Barry Bonds grow muscles. It was always my mission to shrink tumours in cancer patients. That's right, I have become one of the major medical combatants in the fight against cancer. I help patients overcome the nauseous effects of chemotherapy. I simultaneously help build up their strength while tearing down the disease. And sometimes, when all is lost, I am prescribed in the advanced stages of terminal cancer to help victims cope -- to increase their appetite, to make them feel better. "There are some steroids that will literally destroy cancer," says Dr. Clarence Brown, the president of the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center here in town. "There are many patients who are alive and well because of steroids. I don't think any doctor would argue that steroids have saved a lot of lives -- many more lives than they have cost."

Actually, I'm not so sure that I've been directly responsible for taking a single life. Everybody always brings up the name Lyle Alzado -- the former Oakland Raider steroid abuser who died in 1992. Has anybody bothered to check out Alzado's cause of death? Everybody just assumes it was me. But doctors say he died of complications from brain cancer, and there is absolutely no medical evidence that I cause brain cancer. Much has been made by self-indulgent politicians about how I'm becoming an epidemic among America's teenagers. This was the contrived reason they gave for holding a congressional hearing last week on baseball players who use me. Really, it was just so these politicians could see themselves on SportsCenter. The fact is that less than 1 percent of college and high school students have ever taken me recreationally. Compare that with the nearly 25 percent who have smoked cigarettes, 30 percent who have used marijuana and 80 percent who have consumed alcohol.

Considering the number of teenagers who die every year as the result of drunk driving, I suggest our federal government forget about me and hold a congressional hearing on the hard liquor ads NASCAR allows on the sides of its racecars. And considering the number of teenagers who pollute their lungs with nicotine, maybe we should hold a congressional hearing on why the PGA Tour still allows its "athletes" to smoke cigarettes during competition. Unlike these other drugs, I save people and benefit society. I help breathe life into new babies and comfort old people who are taking their last breaths. Everywhere you look, there is somebody I've cured or strengthened. In fact, the writer of this column has a daughter who, while still in the womb, was given steroids to help her survive. Jessica is now a healthy, beautiful and intelligent 5-year-old who some believe will become the first woman president of the United States. And the editor of this column was seriously ill five years ago and was given steroids to successfully reduce swelling in his liver due to a chronic condition. He continues to be a loud, obnoxious Bostonian who has lived long enough to finally see his Red Sox win a World Series. I am a steroid, and I am a good drug. So just leave me alone and let me do my job

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Maybe wank toss Tony Wall could do a show on easily getting highly addictive medicines from 'normal doctors'. I found it interesting when talking to a doctor that they would not prescribe me hcg however at the drop of the hat I could get Valium, Clonezapam, Tramadol, Zopiclone just by saying "I’m a bit stressed and can’t sleep", or "I hurt my back, foot" etc. Tramadol by the way is an opiate from the same family as heroin, morphine or codeine! Funny how those doctors are not prosecuted when doctors who are generally there for the patient wellbeing and not cash back for prescribing dangerous medicine are.

Heath Ledger and Michael Jackson are perfect examples of people that have died at the hand of 'safe prescription medicine' along with literally 1000’s of people each year however there has never been 1 proven case that steroids (directly) have killed anyone.

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Bro...its over..I mean..the programme didnt really have a effect on the public...I was reading the dominion post..I think it was last satdays edition..there was a write up in it by a female journo about Tony Wall and his Illegal NZ steroids etc...wasnt very flattering about him..lol

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Maybe wank toss Tony Wall could do a show on easily getting highly addictive medicines from 'normal doctors'. I found it interesting when talking to a doctor that they would not prescribe me hcg however at the drop of the hat I could get Valium, Clonezapam, Tramadol, Zopiclone just by saying "I’m a bit stressed and can’t sleep", or "I hurt my back, foot" etc. Tramadol by the way is an opiate from the same family as heroin, morphine or codeine! Funny how those doctors are not prosecuted when doctors who are generally there for the patient wellbeing and not cash back for prescribing dangerous medicine are.

Heath Ledger and Michael Jackson are perfect examples of people that have died at the hand of 'safe prescription medicine' along with literally 1000’s of people each year however there has never been 1 proven case that steroids (directly) have killed anyone.

I totally agree. I have a friend who has been prescribed Clonezapam for a number of years. It is an evil drug. Some doctors are far to quick to reach for the top shelf of prescription medicine.

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some dude at work gave ma a lecture today that i shouldnt ever take steroids because heaps of people die from them like on that documentary :roll:

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Bro...its over..I mean..the programme didnt really have a effect on the public...I was reading the dominion post..I think it was last satdays edition..there was a write up in it by a female journo about Tony Wall and his Illegal NZ steroids etc...wasnt very flattering about him..lol

I dont know if the public were effected greatly but I have had a couple of people make comments to me about it & they were work colleques not BBers or Gym Rats. What can you say. Its very hard to make a case against that sort of garbage without devulging that you are on them yourself.

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Bro...its over..I mean..the programme didnt really have a effect on the public...I was reading the dominion post..I think it was last satdays edition..there was a write up in it by a female journo about Tony Wall and his Illegal NZ steroids etc...wasnt very flattering about him..lol

I dont know if the public were effected greatly but I have had a couple of people make comments to me about it & they were work colleques not BBers or Gym Rats. What can you say. Its very hard to make a case against that sort of garbage without devulging that you are on them yourself.

Ive had former work collegues querie the use of steroids and my own former boss pulled me into his office and asked me straight out once...that was well before this illegal nz programme was screened on air.....hope you told them that more people die from alcohol, drug and smoking related deaths...

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Bro...its over..I mean..the programme didnt really have a effect on the public...I was reading the dominion post..I think it was last satdays edition..there was a write up in it by a female journo about Tony Wall and his Illegal NZ steroids etc...wasnt very flattering about him..lol

I dont know if the public were effected greatly but I have had a couple of people make comments to me about it & they were work colleques not BBers or Gym Rats. What can you say. Its very hard to make a case against that sort of garbage without devulging that you are on them yourself.

Ive had former work collegues querie the use of steroids and my own former boss pulled me into his office and asked me straight out once...that was well before this illegal nz programme was screened on air.....hope you told them that more people die from alcohol, drug and smoking related deaths...

yea but there all socially acceptable

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Emailed Tony Wall the following:

Hi Tony,

I am just sending you a quick email after watching the show Illegal NZ specifically the one regarding steroids in NZ.

Although interesting your research was rather poor and the side effects of steroids should have been thoroughly looked at. Some ‘doctors’ claim to know about steroids however most (as I have found in my own research) have completely no knowledge whatsoever. I suggest watching "bigger stronger faster" which has some good investigative reporting and factual information regarding these products.

The subject who claimed to be bleeding internally as a direct result from steroid use must have been either very stupid or jumped into using without correct research. I have never heard of a case where steroid use has caused internal bleeding and I can almost guarantee that the cause of this man’s issues were not related to his use.

Maybe something you may look at reporting on is the G.P practice. I have used steroids and prior to the 1000’s of hours I have spent researching the different products and uses I decided to have an off cycle and because of long term use I had testicular atrophy. Hcg is a product that reverses this. Although this product is 100% safe and cannot harm in any way the doctor would not give me it even after multiple blood tests as ‘they knew nothing about it’.

However, at the drop of the hat I could get Valium, Clonezapam, Tramadol, Zopiclone just by saying "I’m a bit stressed and can’t sleep", or "I hurt my back, foot" etc. Tramadol by the way is an opiate from the same family as heroin, morphine or codeine! Funny how those doctors are not prosecuted when doctors who are generally there for the patient wellbeing and not cash back for prescribing dangerous medicine are.These medicines are also highly addictive and very dangerous

Heath Ledger and Michael Jackson are perfect examples of people that have died at the hand of 'safe prescription medicine' along with literally 1000’s of people each year however there has never been 1 proven case that steroids (directly) have killed anyone.

Please when reporting spend a bit more time researching and not vilifying a product that is not addictive or harmful when used correctly. Maybe look at ‘p’ or a product that is killing every day.

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Tony's response:

Thanks for your feedback. Definitely interested in those other drugs as well, but obviously we decided to focus solely on steroids because of time restrictions. I thought our researchers did a pretty good job actually. Re side effects, isn’t testicular atrophy one of those?!!

Your point on GP’s prescribing of dangerous drugs is a good one. I wouldn’t mind taking a closer look at that issue for the newspaper. Do you know of any GPs who are loose with their prescribing?

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Tony's response:

Thanks for your feedback. Definitely interested in those other drugs as well, but obviously we decided to focus solely on steroids because of time restrictions. I thought our researchers did a pretty good job actually. Re side effects, isn’t testicular atrophy one of those?!!

Your point on GP’s prescribing of dangerous drugs is a good one. I wouldn’t mind taking a closer look at that issue for the newspaper. Do you know of any GPs who are loose with their prescribing?

Yup!!!! always looking for that next big story, its a journo's life...........a pretty crap response IMO, due to time restrictions he shouldn't have aired the show unless he was able to report from all angles, what a load of shyte.

And no, I don't take steroids and never will but I can see a biased view when its as blatant as this.

correction - I'll never take any illegal steroids unless otherwise prescribed :pfft:

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I have a feeling he isn't as ignorant to the responsible and (relatively) safe use of AAS as he seems, but that just isn't the angle of the show, it's all about bringing in viewers via shock tactics.

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