AlBundy Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 I guess the only way to find out would be to eat a perfect diet and have a perfect training regimen during your youth and see how far you go untill you just cant increase your lean mass anymore. I think the idea is your natural ability to synthesize and maintain muscle is governed by hormonal factors. Although due to the diameter/length of your bones muscle origins and insertions and how sturdy your joints are there will definately be a limit to how much muscle can be put on to them.Imo there isn't a way to know for sure if you have done everything possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGame Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I guess the only way to find out would be to eat a perfect diet and have a perfect training regimen during your youth and see how far you go untill you just cant increase your lean mass anymore. I think the idea is your natural ability to synthesize and maintain muscle is governed by hormonal factors. Although due to the diameter/length of your bones muscle origins and insertions and how sturdy your joints are there will definately be a limit to how much muscle can be put on to them.Imo there isn't a way to know for sure if you have done everything possible.And what is the "perfect" diet and training regimen anyway? Just don't limit yourself with your ming and you'l keep on growing IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFreddy Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 well how can u know when u have reached yr genetic potential? maybe u have stopped gaining and think u have... though had u have done some things different along the way u would have got better results...?u will never know when u have reached your full genetic potential imobesides there is always room for improvment no matter who u areDead Right 2 guns! i dont think anyone could of put it better! and i also dont think anyone has reached the full potential,clean or on gear,More like we/they are limited by owe minds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 What I want to know is.. how do you know when you've 'reached' your genetic potential? How do you know that you've exhaused all your avenues in terms of diet/training/rest? Is there a definitive way to know that you have done all you can with your genetics?When your dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohjoshua Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I beleive that no one has reached their 'genetic potential' but some of the best athletes would have come close...maybe 95%+ but never 100% just my opinion.... oh and Flex... dont let it go to your head but I think you are the smartest guy on the the fourm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBundy Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I guess the only way to find out would be to eat a perfect diet and have a perfect training regimen during your youth and see how far you go untill you just cant increase your lean mass anymore. I think the idea is your natural ability to synthesize and maintain muscle is governed by hormonal factors. Although due to the diameter/length of your bones muscle origins and insertions and how sturdy your joints are there will definately be a limit to how much muscle can be put on to them.Imo there isn't a way to know for sure if you have done everything possible.And what is the "perfect" diet and training regimen anyway? Just don't limit yourself with your ming and you'l keep on growing IMOI meant that in the sense that if you could theoretically know exactly what nutrients your body needs and exactly what training stimulus it needs to grow optimally that would be the only way to really hit that limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chchardgainer Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 i dont think anyone would ever do enough training have enough res t and get enough food in them to reach there genetic potential, you can only go as far as you allow yourself, not your genetics, genetics just make certain people grow faster/bigger thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 how can some one know? u cant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 With all due respect to P&W, this is actually a nonsense thread, there is no answer to this question. :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 I think with proper mass building diet and the right programmes etc as most of us do, that one can get as big as any steroid user following a similar lifestyle with the exact same genetic make up.The one using steroids may show change earlier.But for someone with right time on there hands and the right supp's can in all probability achieve the same results not long after, if not in the same amount of time.Im sure there's been studies made compering the two.Great Topic!!!!!! Not a shit show, if that is true then why would guys take roids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Yet many times I have read people saying on forums that they reached their genetic limit ! ( usualy as justification for taking steroids though, making it highly suspect ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 i posted a good answer in another thread on this site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 These guys look pretty big to me, and are natural ... are they? says who??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deegee Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 i posted a good answer in another thread on this siteA link would help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2734&start=20this thread is just the same as this one currently being discussed, maybe merging them together would help!!!! (well help u anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 What I want to know is.. how do you know when you've 'reached' your genetic potential? How do you know that you've exhaused all your avenues in terms of diet/training/rest? Is there a definitive way to know that you have done all you can with your genetics?When your dead.x2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poos_n_wees Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 http://www.nzbb.co.nz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2734&start=20this thread is just the same as this one currently being discussed, maybe merging them together would help!!!! (well help u anyway) Gawd, I just realised you asked the same question as I did in that thread too 2G lol. My baaaaaaaad.And there's no such thing as stupid questions Only stupid people... A mate's been training for ~10 or so years - diet's always been pretty good, doesn't drink or smoke, training's non-retarded, and lately he's been having a lot of issues with his joints, recovery, and his progress has slowed dramatically. He seems to be sore all the time, and in his words, reckons he's reached his "genetic potential" or whatever the hell it is, and is looking at doing some uhh extra supplementing He doesn't compete or anything, just thinks that he's gone as far as he can *naturally*.I guess I was just wondering how other people gauge when its *time* to look down other avenues When your dead.So would you say that people are just impatient and jump the gun when it comes to taking the chemical enhancement route if they're not competing professionally?EDIT: Topic's been merged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delpreet Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 Cool site.. there's an impressive pic and write up of Sanjeev Narayan on there too hi could u please put this link up. .... i was unable to search this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poos_n_wees Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 All good, its http://www.musclemania.com/news.htm#too_goodI think it's like the 5th story down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike-311 Posted December 19, 2007 Report Share Posted December 19, 2007 well how can u know when u have reached yr genetic potential? maybe u have stopped gaining and think u have... though had u have done some things different along the way u would have got better results...?u will never know when u have reached your full genetic potential imobesides there is always room for improvment no matter who u areDead Right 2 guns! i dont think anyone could of put it better! and i also dont think anyone has reached the full potential,clean or on gear,More like we/they are limited by owe mindsYeah MaybeI think we all reach poss Genetic Potential when we are in the peak of our youth, just before the downward slide of ageing.I think its what we do before we reach that peak which determines how extreme that potential is.I just think you wouldnt know it if it happened. P.S YUCK at this guy!!!!!! must be bad lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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