hsvhel Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Has anyone used this product before, i have got about 1/2 way through the container and so far i havn't seen any major improvements between this and the other capsule forms i have tried that are half the price?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbelldog Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 And you probably won't IMO. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Legend Killer Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Have you tried working out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Have you tried working out?Are u kidding...???The magic pill is out there mate...i'm still looking :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvhel Posted August 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Have you tried working out?That has to be the most productive comment i have ever heard.....your a certified genius i should try that!!!reason for posting this is to get opinions of people who have actually used the product and if the expense is justified. There may be another supplement that is far more cost effective yet contains the same properties therfore saving many people the wasted time and money in the first place.but i guess your far to advanced with experiance to bother offering anything of real value for us "regular" people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Dude u should lay off the MUSCLE TECH its making you angry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvhel Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 yeah that was a bit explosive, im short fused after morning meetings. i do apologise. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 yeah that was a bit explosive, im short fused after morning meetings. i do apologise. :oops:Maybe you should go wipe your bottom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 If it's got MUSCLETECH anywhere on the label, then it's overpriced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo250 Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 muscle-tech supplements are over-priced. there are other cheaper creatine alternatives that are of good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantomb Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 there are other cheaper creatine alternatives that are of good quality.Yeah, like steak.Mmmm steaaaak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvhel Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 so higher price is not always better quality?, im reasonably new to the whole supplementation side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Yep, MuscleTech has a reputation for producing products that are twice the price of any other brand, but not twice as effective. They also are renowned for making grossly over-stated claims as to the results you'll see (to be fair, they're certainly not the only supplements company that does this, but they do seem to be better at it than anyone else).On the bright side though, you probably got a container with a snazzy holographic label. :grin: I'm afraid you're going to have to chalk this one up under the "live-and-learn" category. Rule number one in bodybuilding: treat ALL claims by supplement companies with a large amount of scepticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvhel Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 haha the labels the best bit, looks real profesional at work in the drawer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 So how are those "Steroid like results" coming along :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 yeah that was a bit explosive, im short fused after morning meetings. i do apologise.hahahaha :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo250 Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 there are other cheaper creatine alternatives that are of good quality.Yeah, like steak.Mmmm steaaaaksteak is so-so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbot Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Muscletech should be called musclemareketing. They are brilliant marketers and can therefore get away with charging a premium. As far as product quality goes they are nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsvhel Posted August 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 So how are those "Steroid like results" coming along :pfft:oh yeah, steroid like results.im a hulking beast of supplements man!!! a bit of shopping around and label reading and ive found the same product without the label for half the price. definatly wont be paying what i was before!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Make your own Celltech... (American prices etc)Homemade MuscleTech Cell Tech, EAS Phosphagen- Learn HowMake Your Own CellTech and phosphagen For Dirt CheapI'm sure some 'people' won't be happy about this, but I'm also sure regular folks like you and I will enjoy this. ;-) Practically everyone's heard of cell tech, and many probably spend quite a big chunk of money buying some - myself included. I'm also sure that many of you, like me, probably also tried other "creatine delivery" systems out there, ie. EAS phosphagen and a few others.But when you get down to the nitty-gritty, without the big names or "proprietary formulations" behind the creatine products, there's two main ingredients left - creatine and carbs (namely dextrose). I haven't actually gotten around to do a review of EAS Phosphagen yet, but like Muscletech Cell Tech, and most other carb (insulin) based creatine delivery systems out there, it all comes down to creatine and dextrose.So, Why Dextrose (simple carb) and Creatine Monohydrate? Good questions. The answer is really simple - insulin spikes. Whenever you eat food, your body release insulin in response to the food that's consumed. It's a well known fact that sweet stuff, especially simple carbs, if ingested in large amounts, can cause insulin spikes.Insulin is released in response to the all the extra blood sugar, and it works hard to shove all that extra blood sugar into the cells, and this is when the creatine also gets shoved into the cells thus enhancing creatine absorption.Making Your Own Creatine Delivery SystemSo why spend all the money to buy expensive stuff like CellTech or Phosphagen when you can make your own creatine delivery system for a fraction of the cost? I've been doing this for sometime now, and the results are just as good, and my wallet even gained some weight. ;-) In any case, if you wanna save some money, then make your own Cell Tech or Phosphagen. Let's just see how easy this really is. Below is exactly how I make my own CellTech with the exact ingredients and costs involved, you'll see how much you can save and how much extra servings you'll get out of this method.Ingredients Needed For Homemade Creatine Delivery System Prolab Creatine Monohydrate - 1000g ($34)Dextrose - 10lbs ($2 per 2lb bag X 5 bags)Coolaid flavor paks - ($2 for 8 paks)One 4Litre containerLook at that, the total cost runs you at $46 bucks, which will give you roughly 130 servings total. If you do loading (4 servings a day for 1st week), this will last you roughly 58 days, equivalent of a full 8 week cycle.On the other hand, if you were to buy Cell Tech, the 7lb tub runs at $65 and has only 32 servings, which will last you for only 30 days at most, and that is, if you don't load during week one. Big difference huh?With my homemade method, you spend about $46 bucks for 130 servings compared to $65 for only 32 servings of Cell Tech, or 42 servings of Phosphagen at $30. In the end, you'll still have 350g of creatine left over from the 1000g tub. What a deal! See calculations below to understand this a bit more.1lb has 454g X 2bags = 908g (this is the amount of dextrose used to make 4 litres908g / 35g per serving = 26 servings per 4L (aim for 35g of dextrose per serving)26 servings X 5bags of dextrose = 130 servings totalCreatine used = 130 X 5g = 650g Creatine leftover = 1000g - 650g = 350gSimple and straightforward math. ;-) If I messed up, let me know.Simple Instructions To Making Your Own CellTech, PhosphagenI'm starting another cycle tomorrow with homemade stuff (by the time you read this, I probably will have started my cycle). So I made my Cell Tech today. Here's how:Save those 4litre milk jugs you have - wash it and let it dryGet a funnel, and pour one full bag (2lb) of dextrose inAdd in 2 paks of coolaid flavoring of your choice (I like lime and orange)Fill the milk jug 1/3 full with cold water, then shake hard to make sure the dextrose and coolaid dissolves and mixesFill the milk jug all the way to the top, throw it in the fridge and you're done! Important: Do NOT mix in your creatine at this time, unless you want creatinine, which is useless. Only mix in creatine at the time of each use.(Note: the mixture above tastes awesome, maybe a little on the sweet side. I'd say it tastes just as good if not better than Cell Tech with coolaid!)Now, the question you're probably wondering, is "how much do you take each time?" I've done the math for you already, so no worries. ;-) Generally, you want to get around 35g of dextrose with 5g of creatine per serving, and for after workouts, I prefer to get a full 70g of dextrose with 10g of creatine (2 servings). 4L (4000ml) / 26 servings = 154ml per servingSo, every serving size should be 154ml of the drink you just made, which will contain 35g of dextrose. 1 cup is 250mls, so fill 1 cup to about 60% full, and that's a full serving. What About The Extra Ingredients?You'll see a few other ingredients like Chromium Picolinate and Alpha Lipoic Acid in Cell Tech. They work to help make the receptors more receptive to insulin and enhances the insulin action. You can get these extra ingredients like Chromium and ALA for relatively cheap. Personally, I didn't go thru all the trouble to get these two extra ingredients, but its up to you whether you wanna get them or not.Reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZPT Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Thats a good artical above has anyone given it a go?the reason why MUSCLETECH prices are so high is they gotta pay all the body builders that "use" the product to endorse it :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2guns Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 muscle tech stuff tastes good at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbot Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 muscle tech stuff tastes good at leastI agree, does taste great but I wldnt say the taste justifies the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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