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On ‎30‎/‎07‎/‎2018 at 3:35 PM, BADTASTE said:

I pick up this today, surprised I got 3 vials but no complaints, I will use a 18ga to draw out and 23ga or 25ga to shoot the glute or quad, never shot the glute before. Need to stop off at the EDo centre for some supplies 

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Oh geez, very keen to hear your thoughts on this

 

I've never self injected anything but Reandron is easily the worst TRT to try and self inject from my own research - if you can do it yourself I'd be keen to hear your steps to do so

 

I get a nurse to do mine, I'd had about 10 of these injections now at 10 week intervals and it doesn't get any better - they still hurt like shit every time and I can't sit properly afterwards for 2 days

 

Daz's advice to keep the vial warm is very good, the warmer the solution the easier it will go in, you can even keep the vial near your groin to get it warm

 

It's also interesting that you got 3 vials at once - I'd had 3 vials subscribed at once too, but the pharmacy always puts a minimum waiting period before I can collect the next. Also the first time I tried to find Reandron was a bit of a nightmare, I had to visit 5 pharmacies, eventually gave up and asked the closest one to me to just order some in. Now they always keep one for me as I collect from the same place. The impression I got is pharmacies are unlikely to carry stock of this in great numbers, either more people getting subscriptions for other esters or just not many people near me on TRT since the pharmacies around here told me they didn't stock that item

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11 hours ago, Detonate said:

I get a nurse to do mine, I'd had about 10 of these injections now at 10 week intervals and it doesn't get any better - they still hurt like shit every time and I can't sit properly afterwards for 2 days

 

Daz's advice to keep the vial warm is very good, the warmer the solution the easier it will go in, you can even keep the vial near your groin to get it warm

 

Out of curiosity, what gauge needle do you inject with? And what sites do you inject?

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It all depends how the doctor words your prescription as to whether you can collect all repeats at once or collect them after certain dates.

 

Pharmacies are essentially just businesses, they buy medicine from wholesalers and have monthly accounts they pay. It isn’t good business practise to hold items that don’t sell. Businesses like pharmacy like fast turnover of product. Most wholesalers offer same or next day delivery anyway, so for medicine that is expensive to hold or not commonly asked for this is best option. 

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1 hour ago, ratz99 said:

 

Out of curiosity, what gauge needle do you inject with? And what sites do you inject?

To be honest I don't remember, I did ask about the gauge on my first injection but this was over a year ago - but I'll ask the nurse next time, it should be around an 18 though for drawing and injecting that they have been using for me - it hurts when it goes in but it does go in very fast.

 

the injections were all given into the outer side of the glute to avoid the sciatic nerve

 

 

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Yeah alot of people use 18's for drawing. I personally switched to 21s for drawing because I heat mine before anyway and it doesn't have the same impact on the vial rubber stopper. (Have had shitty rubber stoppers get loose when drawing around the needle before).

Anyways, for injection ask, but if they don't already, ask for 25 gauge for injection. 

I don't know if it's anything to do with the solution or not, or that variant of Test in particular. But as an aside some nurses don't seem to be that good at pinning lol. I'd rather do it myself than let half of them do it. 

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So had my latest shot, got info on the needle gauge.

 

nurse is using 18 to draw and injectvthe reandron.

 

i had quite a severe outcome this time, worst response for quite some time - massive bruising across the glute, swelling, couldn’t walk properly for two days etc 

 

lucky for me I had some spare codeine from earlier back pain so popped a few of those or it would have been a lot more painful, like even with codeine sitting was incredibly difficult for two days post this shot 

 

ill have a word with the nurse next time, get them to use a 21 or 23 for injecting

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11 hours ago, Detonate said:

So had my latest shot, got info on the needle gauge.

 

nurse is using 18 to draw and inject the reandron.

 

i had quite a severe outcome this time, worst response for quite some time - massive bruising across the glute, swelling, couldn’t walk properly for two days etc 

 

lucky for me I had some spare codeine from earlier back pain so popped a few of those or it would have been a lot more painful, like even with codeine sitting was incredibly difficult for two days post this shot 

 

ill have a word with the nurse next time, get them to use a 21 or 23 for injecting

 

Your nurse is an idiot..!! It's acceptable to draw with an 18G, but to penetrate skeletal muscle 23G or better still 25G is recommended for use within my guidelines..

Her argument might be 4ml is a lot of oil to inject in one attempt, and it's much quicker for her.. But it's not about her convenience it's about your aftercare, if she is causing pain with the potential to induce scar tissue, or damage that is not acceptable..

 

Request a needle change to 23G or 25G, or another nurse..

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13 hours ago, Detonate said:

ill have a word with the nurse next time,

FFS! Maybe ask your mummy to do it for you after she's tucked you in and pulled her tit out of your mouth! CMON MATE!!! DO IT YOURSELF!

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I sort of fell off the grid a bit now getting back into society I must add my TRT has taken some turns positively i hope to say, but the most important part is I feel great, I started on the Reandron testosterone @ 1000mg after about 4 weeks I didn't any better and the bloods where not any better either, I dove into youtube and websites after website and found some semi positive things about Sustanon 250 (hallelujah) just happen to be another option present by my GP, quick note because I was asked this: though I went through my GP my GP got the approval for the TRT through specialist he knew. So Sustanon 250 176mg testosterone per ml (4 esters) shooting my quads was always 50/50 painful or not I drew back to make sure I was not in the vein if i drew blood I would pullout and change the needle and try again in a new spot, but Daz69 advice was gold and helped me out a lot so Kudos bro.

On 30/07/2018 at 8:34 PM, Daz69 said:

 

No issue with 25G x 1"... Maybe warm the oil (place the filled syringe in your mouth for a couple of minutes.. keep protective sleeve on needle of course).. :0) 

 

 Sustanon 250 176mg testosterone per ml administered @ 3 week intervals which I found was to long getting closer to the 3rd week I would feel like crap, on the the stuff I felt great, confident, cognitive alertness, dick was hard in the morning (holy shit) I am 20 again LOL. So I step outside the guidelines and injected every 12 days, blood work came back (very basic blood test) 20 Jan 2020 Testosterone:> 50.0 nmol/L ( 8.7 - 29.0 ) HH  yes I heard from the nurses and sure I realise they are looking out for me, so I blamed it all on the propionate ester half life in the sustanon 250 and explained I took my shot the day before the test, that will explain the 20 nmol increase.  After more research and youtube, my knowledge had expanded more I was already on an AI (arimadex 1mg tab) E3Ds half a tab then the acne turned up once I noticed them on my back or side of my forehead I also noticed the the hair thinning, which I learn't is a result of testosterone conversion to DHT so I obtain finasteride comes in a 5mg tab which I cut into 4 quarters (slight over 1mg each) cut the each again and 1 bit EOD like the estrogen  I only wanted to suppress the DHT not kill it.  I moved from quad injection to delts, switching between the two, I guess the confidence was getting better and the pip/ numbing in the quad which made it hard to squat added to the encouragement of finding a better way.   (to be continued) 

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(continuation) So my desire to learn more about all of this made me a vacuum, I realise I probably picked up some bad info along the way, I do trying to prove out the stories I ready and watch, this brings me to the next segment: (Micro-dosing) watch a ton of videos, read through researches and medical files and realise that if I micro dose I maybe need to take the AI and Finasteride (as much or at all) and that is positively a good thing (so says my liver:rolleyes: ) So if anyone has thoughts on this (micro-dosing) it will be awesome sharing is caring :) ... But now I have a problem Sustanon 250 is an 1ml ampule (sad) But all is not lost, I could buy a sterile 10 ml vial (probably from China) and fill it with Sustanon 250 or I could put on my Oscar award winning performance and sell the idea to my GP  :cool: and taaadaaaa 

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Picture is the likeness, but the product is the same, so micro-dosing is on the cards, I was taking 176mg of sustanon and will calculate micro-dosing 200 mgs Cypionate @ 2 mls .. (once I work out the daily dosing) there has been other areas that I have taken an interest into some direct and indirect to the TRT things like effect of testosterone on the RBC, lipids, renal and liver. Other off topic areas have also sparked an interest, one being peptides. So, if anyone knows the NZ laws on this topic I am very interested in this also, such as if it's illegal or obtainable via prescription etc etc. Any way that enough for now any advice offered is GREATLY APPRECIATED. Ciao everyone stay safe ..    

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Did some Bloods work on the 16 May 2020, keen on everyone's thoughts

HORMONES

Testosterone: 40.4 nmol/L ( 8.7 - 29.0 ) HH

SHBG: 34 nmol/L ( 13 - 71 )

Free Testosterone: 1011 pmol/L ( 198 - 619 ) HH
TBC

Haemoglobin:187 g/L ( 130 - 175 ) H

RBC:7.45 x10e12/L ( 4.30 - 6.00 ) H 

HCT:0.56 L/L ( 0.40 - 0.52 ) H

MCV:75 fL ( 80 - 99 ) L

MCH:25.1 pg ( 27.0 - 33.0 ) L

Platelets:257 x10e9/L ( 150 - 400 )

WBC:8.7 x10e9/L ( 4.0 - 11.0 )

Neutrophils:5.5 x10e9/L ( 1.9 - 7.5 )

Lymphocytes:1.9 x10e9/L ( 1.0 - 4.0 )

Monocytes:0.7 x10e9/L ( 0.2 - 1.0 )

Eosinophils:0.5 x10e9/L ( < 0.6 )

Basophils:0.1 x10e9/L ( < 0.3 )

PSA

Total PSA:1.4 ug/L ( < 2.5 )

THYROID

TSH:2.7 mIU/L ( 0.30 - 4.00 )

LIVER

Total Bilirubin:13 umol/L ( < 25 )

Alk. Phosphatase:65 U/L ( 40 - 110 )

GGT:64 U/L ( < 60 ) H

ALT:26 U/L ( < 45 )

Total Protein:69 g/L ( 61 - 79 )

Albumin:37 g/L ( 32 - 48 )

Globulin:32 g/L ( 20 - 36 )

LIPIDS

Cholesterol:5.1 mmol/L ( < 5.0 ) H

Triglyceride:1.3 mmol/L ( < 2.0 )

HDL Cholesterol:1.32 mmol/L ( > 1.00 )

LDL cholesterol:3.2 mmol/L ( < 3.4 )

Chol/HDL Ratio:3.9 ( < 4.5 )

 

I am taking the sustanon 250 every 10-14days  1/2mg AI EOD  finasteride 1/2mg E3D .. If any could give me some advice of protective supps I be keen to learn, at present trying to source TUDCA in NZ .. NAC that not overly priced :) I want to cover the main organs, heart, liver kidneys. Thanks in advance.

 

 

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On 07/05/2020 at 12:06 AM, BADTASTE said:

(continuation) So my desire to learn more about all of this made me a vacuum, I realise I probably picked up some bad info along the way, I do trying to prove out the stories I ready and watch, this brings me to the next segment: (Micro-dosing) watch a ton of videos, read through researches and medical files and realise that if I micro dose I maybe need to take the AI and Finasteride (as much or at all) and that is positively a good thing (so says my liver:rolleyes: ) So if anyone has thoughts on this (micro-dosing) it will be awesome sharing is caring :) ... But now I have a problem Sustanon 250 is an 1ml ampule (sad) But all is not lost, I could buy a sterile 10 ml vial (probably from China) and fill it with Sustanon 250 or I could put on my Oscar award winning performance and sell the idea to my GP  :cool: and taaadaaaa 

 

Picture is the likeness, but the product is the same, so micro-dosing is on the cards, I was taking 176mg of sustanon and will calculate micro-dosing 200 mgs Cypionate @ 2 mls .. (once I work out the daily dosing) there has been other areas that I have taken an interest into some direct and indirect to the TRT things like effect of testosterone on the RBC, lipids, renal and liver. Other off topic areas have also sparked an interest, one being peptides. So, if anyone knows the NZ laws on this topic I am very interested in this also, such as if it's illegal or obtainable via prescription etc etc. Any way that enough for now any advice offered is GREATLY APPRECIATED. Ciao everyone stay safe ..    

 

If injection frequency of 125mg sustanon/week is applied there should be no need for AI, DHT blockers..

 

Draw 0.5ml of Sustanon 250 into 2 syringes, inject one, save the other, store upright inside clean container there should be no problem, inject a week later..

 

Micro-dosing is retarded and pointless...

 

Injecting with a lower dose more often (as stated above) should minimise deleterious effects of blood markers... 

 

Peptides like TB-500 and BPC-157 have been shown to work for some medical conditions, but unfortunately are not allowed for use in humans, only animals..

You could always apply to customs to import for your cat, or dogs deleterious medical condition (tendon related, obviously)..

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On 22/05/2020 at 5:52 PM, Daz69 said:

 

If injection frequency of 125mg sustanon/week is applied there should be no need for AI, DHT blockers..

 

Draw 0.5ml of Sustanon 250 into 2 syringes, inject one, save the other, store upright inside clean container there should be no problem, inject a week later..

 

Micro-dosing is retarded and pointless...

 

Injecting with a lower dose more often (as stated above) should minimise deleterious effects of blood markers... 

 

Peptides like TB-500 and BPC-157 have been shown to work for some medical conditions, but unfortunately are not allowed for use in humans, only animals..

You could always apply to customs to import for your cat, or dogs deleterious medical condition (tendon related, obviously)..

TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT .. I started the AI for 2 reasons: 1) nipples for some stupid reason started to get sensitive doctor told me to take 1mg per day arimidex (BUT) after a tour through these forums and others I brought a pill cuter and take 1/2 mg EOD and the nipples stop hurting and the estrogen level in the blood started to lower, I am quite cautious but educate myself on these things which is quite a trip, I suspect the nipple sensitivity was due to the aromatiastion to estrogen which is the 2nd reason why I started to use them, no more sore tender nipples (LOL)

 

If micro-dosing is pointless I wont bother with it and will put that down to blond moment and move on (LOL)  at present I am using the Sustanon 250 @ 176mg @1ml (every 10-14 days) to finish what I have as my Doc has changed me onto 200 mgs Cypionate @ 2 mls  I am thinking that 1ml every 7-10 days  as I am trying to balance out my injections when I switch. 

 

TB500 - BPC157 info, thank you so much, I am going to give your customs / pet idea a try, as I am a member on the NZKC that occasionally breeds bull terriers :) its is worth a shot.   

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I was prescribed  metformin  told it will help cut some weight and help with insulin sensitivity etc .. BUT I am continuously learning more about it. feel free to educate us on the pros and cons

 

Thank you for the awesome advice

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18 hours ago, BADTASTE said:

TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE INSIGHT .. I started the AI for 2 reasons: 1) nipples for some stupid reason started to get sensitive doctor told me to take 1mg per day arimidex (BUT) after a tour through these forums and others I brought a pill cuter and take 1/2 mg EOD and the nipples stop hurting and the estrogen level in the blood started to lower, I am quite cautious but educate myself on these things which is quite a trip, I suspect the nipple sensitivity was due to the aromatiastion to estrogen which is the 2nd reason why I started to use them, no more sore tender nipples (LOL)

 

If micro-dosing is pointless I wont bother with it and will put that down to blond moment and move on (LOL)  at present I am using the Sustanon 250 @ 176mg @1ml (every 10-14 days) to finish what I have as my Doc has changed me onto 200 mgs Cypionate @ 2 mls  I am thinking that 1ml every 7-10 days  as I am trying to balance out my injections when I switch. 

 

TB500 - BPC157 info, thank you so much, I am going to give your customs / pet idea a try, as I am a member on the NZKC that occasionally breeds bull terriers :) its is worth a shot.   

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I was prescribed  metformin  told it will help cut some weight and help with insulin sensitivity etc .. BUT I am continuously learning more about it. feel free to educate us on the pros and cons

 

Thank you for the awesome advice

 

Dr's love prescribing drugs for no logical reason... Metformin decreases hepatic glucose production, decreases intestinal absorption of glucose, so why not just lower glucose intake..?????

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18 hours ago, Daz69 said:

 

Dr's love prescribing drugs for no logical reason... Metformin decreases hepatic glucose production, decreases intestinal absorption of glucose, so why not just lower glucose intake..?????

I have no complaints, but putting Dr Love on the shelf, what if I did both??? 500mg per day on keto diet or low fat low carb high protein diet, yes I maybe just thinking out loud. 

I cant say I am not curious of what the results would be.  All In the name of science of course.

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On 25/05/2020 at 10:15 PM, Realtalk said:

Metformin isn’t a fatlose pill.Taking it as one is idiotic.

I never said it was, a fat lost pill, though research shows it can provide weight loss benefits for some people, through this research it does not seem to be idiotic at all, as it seems to help some people. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23147210/  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3308305/

 

Personally I have it and don't use it, I like the research surrounding the insulin sensitivity from this compound but I need more knowledge on this compound, which is why I asked.

On 24/05/2020 at 1:59 AM, BADTASTE said:

I was prescribed  metformin  told it will help cut some weight and help with insulin sensitivity etc .. BUT I am continuously learning more about it. feel free to educate us on the pros and cons

Thank you for the awesome advice

If the best advice to educate me is Taking it as one is idiotic. then I guess I am done here. I apologise for offending the powers that be. 

Be safe ... Ciao

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22 hours ago, BADTASTE said:

I never said it was, a fat lost pill, though research shows it can provide weight loss benefits for some people, through this research it does not seem to be idiotic at all, as it seems to help some people. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23147210/  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3308305/

 

Personally I have it and don't use it, I like the research surrounding the insulin sensitivity from this compound but I need more knowledge on this compound, which is why I asked.

If the best advice to educate me is Taking it as one is idiotic. then I guess I am done here. I apologise for offending the powers that be. 

Be safe ... Ciao

 

Dr David Sinclair recommends metformin for its  health benefits regards longevity, I've read some of the research he put forward, after consultation with my Dr it was decided adopting a keto style diet would confer similar effects on insulin sensitivity, fat loss, and overall longevity, but without the side effects..  

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